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NPD/Circana US March 2023: PS5 #1 (now ahead of PS4 when aligned), RE4#1, MLB#3 and TLOU #5
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Xbox One also didn't have a sku on sale for half the price of the PS4...imagine if all they had was Series X.
feynoob
Member
That is what happens, when you have an American owner who only sees $$$. He is clueless as hell.
He has the same vision as MS had during Xbox One launch.
MasterCornholio
Member
Sony did.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Absolutely crazy that its outselling the Xbox 2 to 1 in the US.
I dont even have words...Pressures on, Guess Phil will be on the way out.
I dont even have words...Pressures on, Guess Phil will be on the way out.
Interfectum
Member
Starfield is not saving the console. At best it will propel Xbox for a few months but once Spider-Man 2 and Christmas roll around...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It will definitely slow down. Console is approaching 40 million sales. By the end of the year they will be around 50 million which is when they will have to start cutting prices to get the people who only buy $300 consoles. I think the slim console will help them get the discless version down to $299 while they will keep the physical edition to $399.
The question is will there be a demand for a discless console at $299? People still overwhelmingly prefer disc versions and the xss wasnt exactly flying off the shelves because people who traditionally want cheaper consoles wait for cheaper physical sales.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I think it's outselling the Series even more than 2 to 1. Weren't there estimations for February that put them like at 195k for Series consoles and PS5 at over 525k?
Can't remember where i saw those though...
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
And we're seeing that again with Mario thanks to the Super Mario movie. Big gains for Odyssey and others on the UK charts thanks to the film.
Meanwhile, the Paramount Halo show probably did more to kill Halo Infinite sales than encourage people to buy it, because it never showed back up in NPD Top 10 outside of its debut month. Truly sad.
Was there a numbers leak? Or did Mat mention this himself?
I wouldn't find it hard to believe but it's the first time since the NPD leaks that'd I'd of seen confirmation of PS5 clearly outselling XBS 2:1.
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Zok310
Banned
The gamepass pivot killed the brand in regards to console. Current xbox leadership is the worse in its history(look at the numbers). Heads need to roll at that division.
MasterCornholio
Member
Imtjnotu
Member
PS4 sales in January of 2016 reached 35 million sold through. March was 40 million shipped. PS4 sold 40 million in month 31
If PS5 is now ahead of March total sales it's 40 million ps5's. Ahead by two months
Luigi Mario
Member
For him to say something like this, things must be looking worse than expected.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Man you know it's bad if Welfare said it!Even worse they are not moving much software to make up for the hit they are taking on hardware.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I agree. They should release new consoles with more power.
Spitfire098
Member
HIFI Rush?Huh? There seems to be an entry missing from the March Top 20 Games list.
Mr Moose
Member
In the US.
TheGodfather07
Member
Microsoft banked too hard on subscription gaming.. it's not working out for them. Where do they even go from here?
bxrz
Member
React to what? They want to make the most money possible. They don't care about console sales as much as Sony does.
Phil is going nowhere because Xbox's revenue will match Playstation's revenue when the Activision deal goes through. Which is what they care about
Markio128
Member
All those games would have been available anyway, regardless of acquisition.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Last gen was the same. They will give him another promotion. You fail upwards at Microsoft.
Gamepass might have had an effect on software sales, but hardware? Thats on exclusives and lack of games, period. Last year was absolutely awful aside from Elden Ring. No reason for anyone to buy consoles. Sony had HFW, GT7, and GOW, cross gen games but still something. MS hasnt had a cross gen exclusive since Halo and Forza in 2021. Games sell consoles. When the industry took an off year last year, first party had to step up. I suspect had Starfield released last year in November, the sales would not be this low. Big exclusives generate excitement. People talk at work, at school, and that excitement gets others to buy in. MS shouldve moved mountains to get Starfield out last year. If they had $70 billion to spend on activision, they shouldve had a few million to get some support studios to pitch in or use their 24 first party studios to go help that gmae ship on time.
And not just starfield, but redfall and forza, both of which were announced as 2022 titles. The first few years are very important and while its not the end of the world for Xbox just yet, a lot of people have already made their decision to buy the one next gen console they will buy next gen. Starfield and forza will help close the gap and might even win a month or two, but they've already lost that crucial early adopter race to the PS5.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The cannibalization of software continues at a rapid rate.
Loss lead race to the bottom. Hence the storied 3rd party publisher(s) takeaway scheme.
yazenov
Member
Drop the hardware. Go 3rd party like Sega.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Dat gamepass effect.
Luigi Mario
Member
Hopefully, the good US result was able to offset the lacklustre Japan numbers.
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
Damn, so we're seeing a big increase in Europe and now in USA (and probably in the rest of the world too) but if we end up the year with PS5 crossing the 50 million mark and Xbox not getting to 30 million... game over. And unless Sony somehow drops the ball with their games, I just can't see how Xbox would get back on track to be neck to neck with them.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I'm actually really happy for Sony with this news because if this does not send a clear message that Microsoft needs to sort their release schedule out, secure third party marketing deals on big games like Hogwarts and Resi 4, I don't know what else does.
Stop talking all that shite and step up, deliver good games and great deals for your customer base. Make the platform appealing. Go after big games for gamepass, but also marketing deals on everyday third party games. They have to change that narrative...just copy sony and spend the money...it's not hard really is it?
Stop talking all that shite and step up, deliver good games and great deals for your customer base. Make the platform appealing. Go after big games for gamepass, but also marketing deals on everyday third party games. They have to change that narrative...just copy sony and spend the money...it's not hard really is it?
Ogbert
Member
elcapitano
Member
1. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch)
2. FIFA 23 (Switch)
3. FIFA 23 (PS4)
4. Hogwarts Legacy (PS5)
5. Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
6. Resident Evil 4 Remake
7. Nintendo Switch Sports
8 The Last of Us Part II (PS4)
9. Metroid Prime Remastered (Switch)
10. Pokémon Scarlet and Purple (Switch
Spanish Charts April 3rd to 9th
2. FIFA 23 (Switch)
3. FIFA 23 (PS4)
4. Hogwarts Legacy (PS5)
5. Super Mario Odyssey (Switch)
6. Resident Evil 4 Remake
7. Nintendo Switch Sports
8 The Last of Us Part II (PS4)
9. Metroid Prime Remastered (Switch)
10. Pokémon Scarlet and Purple (Switch
Spanish Charts April 3rd to 9th
Spitfire098
Member
I tried to have this conversation before the new consoles released because of how fast they let Xbox One X & Xbox One DE die down
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/xbox...-or-will-it-be-a-short-lived-project.1505326/
Zok310
Banned
3rd party pub. Just get out of console hardware.
Captain Toad
Banned
Yeah, but this specific area is a well-known Sony territory.
The area I'm referring to is planet Earth.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Xbox needs a cultural shift for sure. Gaming is about games and their output has been lacking. If you want people to buy into your thing you have to give them reasons to do so. "Day 1 on game pass" is meaningless when nothing compelling is releasing. HiFi Rush was great and all but it feels like a fluke more than anything else.
TheGodfather07
Member
It makes sense. What incentive do Microsoft have to keep making their own hardware when people are choosing not to buy it? They can instead put their software on more popular platforms and make alot of money that way. Having their own hardware is holding them back. They gave it a go but it might be time to give it up.
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Mario kart 8 is an unstoppable beast
elcapitano
Member
Made Top 20 last month. It's dollar sales not units sold so older games on discount obviously have to sell a lot more copies to make a dollar sales chart.
Like TLOU2 would have to sell somewhere between 3 to potentially 6 times as many copies compared to RE4 or TLOU 1 Remake to reach the same point on the sales chart.
I asked the guy who tweets it out over DM and he isn't allowed disclose Unit Sales
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ReBurn
Gold Member
They want the 30% cut of third party revenue their store generates.
feynoob
Member
Pop
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Sanepar
Member
Yes! Phill probably dealing to schedule a few interviews for more bs pr and looking for more publishers aquisitions.
Games? Meh
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Cloud gaming as worked out real well for google and amazon.
It most certainly was a competition and Xbox was primed by all appearances to make a serious run at increasing market share. It just completely failed to execute when it mattered.
No. Switch sales were 4.11 million last year's first quarter, and they are declining this year. Something around 126 million would be more realistic.
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Gamepass doesn't make sense for the casual gamer that want to just play a lot of one or two games a year, or FTP titles each year, as those games are not on there.
Even the more hardcore gamers I struggle to see how you get value out of it when the 3-4 games you want to play a year are not on there.
The other big factor is time, the most valuable demographic for Gamepass aside from families are individuals who work i.e they are time poor. So quantity over quality really doesn't make any sense.
Lastly, PS Plus is now just as good and likely stops any consumers looking for that type of thing from jumping platform.