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NPD/Circana US March 2023: PS5 #1 (now ahead of PS4 when aligned), RE4#1, MLB#3 and TLOU #5
Smoke6
Member
Bro, none of that shit has done anything positive for them. Most gamers are already moving on and away from anything activision and are even pumping the hell out of xdefiant!
More studios will be formed due to these aquisitions, and we’ll be back at square one and game pass subs won’t ever get above 25m mark!
The writing’s on the wall chief, no one cares for Xbox anymore and neither does MS or Bethesda since there games have been running better on PlayStation and MS owns them!
Ronin_7
Member
It isn't.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Just buy more storied 3rd party publishers and play takeaway; trying to make the competition smaller.
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feynoob
Member
Sorry, forum is not indication of real world.
Your idea is only good if those gamers were on forums.
Thirty7ven
Banned
I stand corrected!
Bahahahaha
Not happening. I mean sure Series will somehow hit 360 levels. Somehow. Even though it’s looking worse than Xbox one. But it will somehow. Neogaf Believe assemble
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fallingdove
Member
Lol - no. I think Xbox fanboys have a monopoly on that process. For me, it’s easy to spot the same dented box at the top pile every time I stop by for computer equipment.
jm89
Member
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That 30M is a very, very generous estimate. How have they sold that much when all we’ve been hearing is they have shortages? Any legitimate data and reason for the estimate?
feynoob
Member
We will see that at the end of this gen.
Don't be surprised when Xbox hits those numbers.
jm89
Member
Very generous is putting it lightly
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feynoob
Member
I thought it was 30m by now.
Maybe my numbers for current one are wrong
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Most Sony studios haven't released a single PS5 exclusive game that actually sells consoles yet. That's what's so crazy. They are pulling these numbers but i feel like Sony's own studios aren't even doing most of the work now. Demon's Souls, Ratchet and Returnal aren't huge system sellers.
I feel like Spider-Man 2 might be the first real one that's exclusive, not coming out on PS4 as well...
The fact Sony has marketing rights and has managed to tie most big IPs to their console has worked wonders for them early this gen: COD, Fortnite, Fifa, GTAV, Hogwarts Legacy, all Marvel properties not made by their studios, and then smaller IPs like Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, Resident Evil, etc has been working wonders for them. There's also the Avatar game as well.
They are selling like this, but when you think about it, they aren't even trying that much yet. Imagine once they do, with a cheaper SKU on sale and their studios firing on all cylinders...plus their usual 3rd party partnerships.
What? PS5 was at 30M in December dude...Series S was estimated to be at around 20M by then.
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Mr Moose
Member
They haven't hit 2M yet in their second biggest market.
feynoob
Member
Thanks.
I thought they sold like 30m already.
feynoob
Member
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
PS5 might even be inching towards 40m at this point with their monster months this year.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
just another month for jim....................
H-I-M
Member
"But covid"
"But we'll only see the results of the investments in 10 years"
"Hardware sales don't matter anymore"
"Halo had 20 millions players the first week so it's a success"
These are some of the reasons as to why he hasn't been fired yet.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
feynoob
Member
With their current pace, 130m seems to be the target.
Would be a historical if they hit 150m. One can hope so.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Xbox being #2 in dollars suggests that Series X supply is better, because I don't see a chance where Series S is outselling the Switch by enough to make Xbox #2 in dollar sales.
Even so, lagging in 3rd for units has to be at least a bit concerning for MS at this point since the US is their biggest market. If this continues they will lose even more market share to PlayStation 5 once the year is over. I think they lost 2% last time for 2022? They could lose another 4 - 5% this year if the trajectory continues. And that's aside from how things are playing out in the UK, Europe, Japan, and ROTW.
I would just say batten down the hatches at this point because Xbox is in for a rough ride this gen, although that was probably obvious by now months ago.
I still doubt it. PS2 sold like 30+ million after PS3 but keep in mind PS3 launched in a REALLY rough state. PS2 was uniquely positioned as a great bargain system still getting new big games, for those who thought PS3 was too expensive, 360 outside of their comfort zone (brand-wise), and Wii not suiting their tastes.
I think PS5 lifetime sales will probably max out around 135 million, but there's a good chance I could be wrong.
Even so, lagging in 3rd for units has to be at least a bit concerning for MS at this point since the US is their biggest market. If this continues they will lose even more market share to PlayStation 5 once the year is over. I think they lost 2% last time for 2022? They could lose another 4 - 5% this year if the trajectory continues. And that's aside from how things are playing out in the UK, Europe, Japan, and ROTW.
I would just say batten down the hatches at this point because Xbox is in for a rough ride this gen, although that was probably obvious by now months ago.
I still doubt it. PS2 sold like 30+ million after PS3 but keep in mind PS3 launched in a REALLY rough state. PS2 was uniquely positioned as a great bargain system still getting new big games, for those who thought PS3 was too expensive, 360 outside of their comfort zone (brand-wise), and Wii not suiting their tastes.
I think PS5 lifetime sales will probably max out around 135 million, but there's a good chance I could be wrong.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
He's the cult of personality for the most fanatical online, he won't ever be fired. If anything, they will ease in a new face, he will move up in the executive ranks, but they won't be that stupid to cold turkey their brand's mascot.
solidus12
Member
Also, PlayStation is leading the Niche Console Market next to Nintendo. Xbox is positioned to lead the Gaming Market with Game Pass, more ways to play & the best First Party Games! Let's add ABK.
/s
feynoob
Member
He is the definition of going upwards.
At least I am enjoying the miserable state of his favorite club (Chelsea).
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
360 got a big boost from Kinect, though, otherwise I think 360 sales would have tapped out closer to 70 - 75 million. Without the RROD as well, probably 65 - 70 million. Keep in mind it was around 40 million by sometime 2009, maybe a bit more before the Kinect dropped.
I don't see Xbox Series having a Kinect moment this gen. MS probably thought Game Pass would be that, but it isn't. And MS are facing tougher competition from both Sony and Nintendo than they did with XBO or even the 360 in ways. I think Xbox Series will be fortunate to hit 65 million this gen at their current pace, and that depends on some things picking up on the software front. If they have an explosion of banger software and at least some of them find room to have market success, maybe that can increase to 70 million.
The only way they can hit 80 million is if the aforementioned happens AND they actually release another Series system like Project Keystone that gets rolled up into the Series consoles of hardware sales.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sony really doing everything to have those 6M ales in the last quarter.
Sanepar
Member
xbox will only win a gen if they take ea, take2 and ubi besides abk and make everything exclusive. It is the only way for them.
Sanepar
Member
They are selling less every month. Cod will be on ps5 and ps6. Next diablo is 10 years away. They will sell 50m or less this gen. Probably less.
MisterXDTV
Member
It's already worse than Xbox One if you consider now they are selling TWO consoles at TWO very different price points...
Luigi Mario
Member
I don’t think they are ahead of Xbox One anymore. The One had pretty good sales numbers for the first three years and they even came out on top in important months like November.
Games of Today
Member
Dude if Sony and Playstation show up with multiple bangers in a showcase. The industry might explode. People are seething for new first party IP's to be announced.
Mahavastu
Member
Took them less then 3 months of unrestricted supply to overcome 2 years of shortage...
Impressive. But if you hear growth numbers of over 350%, thats whats happens.
Mahavastu
Member
While your not wrong, currently it looks like all these studio games are coming at a time when the generation is already lost.
Anyway, if they show they reliable deliver games this gen, maybe next gen things are different?
feynoob
Member
It will be different.
As long as they wash that Xbox one (no games label) off. It will be good for their brand image.
tmlDan
Member
Chelsea's spending habits alongside their lack of success are pretty aligned with his values.
kinda funny tbh
Topher
Gold Member
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Topher
Gold Member
It launched at $500 and dropped Kinect six months after launch lowering the price to $400. Later it dropped to $299 in 2016.
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TheGodfather07
Member
You seem to think alot of silly things. Do some actual research.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Nah, PS5 sold 30M by the end of the year and Sony intended to sell 6M from January to March. It's probably at 36/37M by now.
But it will surpass 40M until June for sure.
Jesus Christ...
crackajack
Member
Crazy what lifetime numbers the PS5 would already have if it would have been available everywhere since launch. But lets see if the trend slows down or if the next couple months continue to show similar records.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
We're potentially looking at 650K PS5 's sold in the US...in March. Which is meant to be one of the quieter months. Insane.
It's more than doubling Series' sales in consecutive months in it's competitor's strongest turf.
It's more than doubling Series' sales in consecutive months in it's competitor's strongest turf.