dotnotbot
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It's a price increase in disguise, making bigger storage probably costs them close to nothing with today's SSD prices
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Phil Spencer finally address shortages issues, Says Series X stock has been resolved. New Series S in Black for $349.
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It's a price increase in disguise, making bigger storage probably costs them close to nothing with today's SSD prices
The $499 version isn’t available on Amazon or GameStop, though. Just the Forza bundle for $549.
Or launched this at $299 and discounted the white one to $249
Way too many missteps with this SKU. Should always have been 6Tflops + VRAM setup like the Xbox One X
ZoukGalaxy
Gold Member
I was confused by this intervention, I see no shortage were I live. I guess it's an US thing ?
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
And many times I've seen that it is in stock. The stock issue is bullshit. If you wanted one you got one.
The Tourmaline Gorilla
Banned
Oh, the games are certainly there.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
So we either hear about numbers improving from now on vs previous months or the demand just isn't there....no excuse now.
Just mentioned at the showcase. Phil Spencer confirmed the Series X stock issues but also revealed that he has resolved them. They are also producing a new more expensive Xbox Series S, the difference being it's going to be colored in black instead of white and a 1TB SSD..
I think they should have left the series s at 300.
Ya. It should have at least matched the one x. And maybe 2 more gigs of ram.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So a price increase because of a color?
demigod
Member
You two aren't serious are you? Just because ms decided to raise the price of their console and added a 2 year old game into a bundle to stealth price increase, that doesn't make it a shortage of the XSX. I couldn't find a ragnarok bundle the other day at my Target, does that mean there's a shortage of PS5s?
bender
What time is it?
So a price increase because of a color?
Unknown?
Member
$349 S is a crap deal. It's only $50 less than a far superior PS5 and $150 less than a far superior Series X. It's literally worse than before.
MarkMe2525
Member
No PS5 at your Target... no. No PS5 on Amazon.... Yes.
What a weird, unhelpful analogy comparing your local retail store to a national distributor.
Tsaki
Member
MS put a game that holds no value, since apparently everyone buys Game Pass, in the Xbox package and raised the price. The console was available, they just decided to sell it for more in a differently colored box.
It's a demand issue and the few X consoles they make, they make sure are bundled so to not lose too much money per unit.
supernova8
Banned
Here in Japan the Series X is still pretty scarce and usually you can only buy it bundled with FH5 (which is stupid, pointless bundle for obvious reasons)
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
That's quite interesting, there's a period of an hour last week (7th July) where Series X was in stock on Amazon, before it goes out of stock again.
I know there are console wars to be be fought, but even the most committed fanboy wouldn't say selling out in an hour means no demand.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
PS5 Digital edition 399
Xbox Series S 349
Good luck with that.
Xbox Series S 349
Good luck with that.
demigod
Member
The narratives sure change a lot with you folks.
There is no shortage of xsx whether its online or retail.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Up for preorder @ MS UK
£299
Looks stunning.
Should have been a replacement for the base model @ £249.
Worst case scenario, should have been £279-£289 to maintain the £100+ saving over the PS5.
£299
Looks stunning.
Should have been a replacement for the base model @ £249.
Worst case scenario, should have been £279-£289 to maintain the £100+ saving over the PS5.
Fredrik
Member
It used to be like that but 2023 has been weird, was out of stock even here in Sweden, only available at tiny scalper-like ”stores”.
Now it’s everywhere and at the correct msrp. Not sure if demand is there though.
JCK75
Member
I'd wager if someone is an actual gamer they won't settle for series s, and are waiting to find a Series X.. and not pay $60 more for game that comes with gamepass.
Personally I've never seen a Series X in the wild, Series S is more for parents like me who knows my 10 year old won't know the difference between the two so I get away with a cheaper purchase.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
Likely would have lost too much money at that price point, they need to make a profit. Better idea would have been to wait a few months and revamp the Series S by giving it a 3nm die shrink with the extra storage and possibly a smaller/lighter form factor to decrease production / shipping costs.
MarkMe2525
Member
Can you point to some other "narrative" that I was spreading or is this some deflection tactic?
As you make the claim that "there is no shortage online or retail", it still shows out of stock on Amazon and Bestbuy.com. It is clear who is here attempting to parrot some "narrative".
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demigod
Member
systemr123
Banned
What demand?
Jemm
Member
systemr123
Banned
It reads marketing slogan?
CuteFaceJay
Member
Didn't think there was still a shortage in 2023 and with everyone being broke due to inflation would be plenty in their storage. I was more hyped for the Hexen shirt he had on, Thought he was gonn have the id software lot announce something major.
MarkMe2525
Member
I made it clear that I have been referring to base model. You are already aware of this. If your argument is if a bundle is available then a product isn't having inventory shortages, then PS5 and Series X have been mostly available since launch.
Where is this mythical out of stock you’re talking about?
Of course, bundles are a perfectly adequate option for many potential customers, but not all. By their very nature, bundles limit potential audience by either only appealing to consumers who are already interested in included software, or asking an uninterested party to waste money.
Also, you may have missed my question. What narrative was I parroting previously that I am now changing?
demigod
Member
And i made it clear you can get the bundles, hence no shortages. Go blame ms, there simply isn’t demand.
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Topher
Gold Member
That isn't even remotely true. Bundles only started showing up May of last year with Horizon Forbidden West.
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deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
It will be the holiday price for sure
ReBurn
Gold Member
What's funny is that the Best Buy screenshot you posted literally has "high demand product" right there under the base XSX listing and you're continuing to parrot that there's no demand.
jm89
Member
I mean we only need to look at sales reports to see how bad it's doing.
MarkMe2525
Member
There isn't demand? You are sure making many claims that are not backed by evidence, very telling. Have fun with that.
MarkMe2525
Member
Factory bundles were not specified. There were many bundles compiled by retailers, such as BestBuy and GameStop, that were available since the launch of both systems. Like in most cases with bundles, unless one was interested in the included accessories and games, they were not compelling options if one was looking for just the console.
Topher
Gold Member
If you are going to make that argument then you can say consoles have been widely available since launch because scalpers have been selling them on eBay. No one is talking about availability in those terms or retailer forced accessory bundles. That shouldn't have to be explicitly pointed out.
Edit: The bundles that have been highlighted in this thread with screenshots have been factory bundles and you replied to the post that highlighted it. So yes, factory bundles were in fact specified.
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Gorgon
Member
I had no idea that there was a shortage in the US.
I always see them on sale in my country. I even just checked my local game store's website and the Series X is 25% off
Bummer. I bought an XSX a couple days ago and was "forced" to pay 40 euros extra for the Diablo SKU. Would have been great if the base XSX was available with a 25% discount. But I'm not in the USA.
It should have never existed, actually. Although it may have been saving MS' ass in terms of hardware sales, it can't be a long term solution to MS' problems. Same shit with Kinect back in the day. Next gen MS better drop the gimped console strategy and get their act together.
MarkMe2525
Member
Those screenshots were provided after the broad assertion that "bundles are available so there are is no limited availability" was made. I realize you may have not been following the conversation through since the beginning. The poster I was speaking with made broad and overreaching claims. Therefore I was showing how the logic of such claims are flawed. If he was referring to a specific bundle from the get go, that is his burden to say so.
Even so, I still don't agree that because there is a bundle available, that is unattractive to many people, that shows supply isn't constrained. As you know, asking an Xbox customer to pay for a first party title upfront is redundant to many as they are included in gamepass. To clarify, Microsoft missing the mark with their product bundles should not be used as evidence, either way, regarding availability of the individual components in said bundle. It's just not a sound argument.
Also, do you really want to be throwing your lot in with an individual who in there last post made the claim that " there isn't demand" for Xbox? I think anybody would agree that there isn't "as much" demand for Xbox as it's contemporaries, but the claim that there is no demand is a farse.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Heck of a console, everything about the design, great controller, and regardless of the games, multiplatform games are great.
U n i o n 0015
Member
The shortage issues have resolved because demand for Series X cratered.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I don’t really see them on Amazon, just crappy inflated price bundles.