You missed this oneWent back and looked for the lols since I see people pretending there wasnt a hype campaign
The hype around Starfield is massive, and growing.
The last game I can remember that had this type of hype leading up to its release was Red Dead Redemption 2. It's trending on twitter every day. Forums and social media are all about Starfield, and MS hasn't advertised jack shit for it. I haven't really been a Bethesda guy, but I am a space...www.neogaf.com
Is Starfield the most important game in Xbox's history since the original Halo?
While the Series X has been doing well, there is still an outcry for AAA exclusives. After two years of meager offerings for a lack of a better word, Starfield is poised to deliver. I can't think of a more important game in the history of the Xbox brand besides the original Halo that supposedly...
What's the last game that was anticipated as much as Starfield?
It's been crazy. Everywhere I look on the gaming/tech/social media related internet, it seems like the conversation is about Starfield. It's been a few years since I've seen this type of hype and buildup towards a game's release. Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 a few years ago? But even that I don't...
What kind of character will you create in Starfield?
I'm thinking of doin a Good guy Riker playthrough, who doesn't take shit from anyone. But in such a playthrough, stealing would be prohibited.. Maybe I'll design my character after Mal from Firefly He could steal, be a robin hood kind of character who is still a good guy. Or maybe I'll...
What are you going to call your ship in Starfield?
I'm naming my ships after ships: The Satokasu The Sonally The Linaria The Talrrus The Taimatora
Starfield | What aspect of Starfield excites you the most?
The game clearly is doing a lot from piracy, base building and taming alien creatures. I think what excites me the most is the ability to modify your spaceship. I’m not normally that into modding my rides in other games, but there’s something so cool about how this game seems to handle it. I...
There's more but those have actual tidbits of news or real announcements, these are just pure hype threads from before the game released, some of the OPs are now banned, oops.
Notice that this is in no way indicative of the quality of the game, my wife is enjoying it a lot and ill jump in sometime next week but let's not try to rewrite history.
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Starfield has 'Mixed' reviews on Steam (Up: 'Recent' reviews are Mostly Negative)
Little Chicken
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Little Chicken
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Dial back on your sad attempt at console war bait.
Man, reminding me how I wish I could've created a retrospective from the thousands of comments in the pre-gen hardware speculation thread, who stated with confidence, that the PS5 specs were going to wipe the floor with the Series X.Went back and looked for the lols since I see people pretending there wasnt a hype campaign
The hype around Starfield is massive, and growing.
The last game I can remember that had this type of hype leading up to its release was Red Dead Redemption 2. It's trending on twitter every day. Forums and social media are all about Starfield, and MS hasn't advertised jack shit for it. I haven't really been a Bethesda guy, but I am a space...
Is Starfield the most important game in Xbox's history since the original Halo?
While the Series X has been doing well, there is still an outcry for AAA exclusives. After two years of meager offerings for a lack of a better word, Starfield is poised to deliver. I can't think of a more important game in the history of the Xbox brand besides the original Halo that supposedly...
What's the last game that was anticipated as much as Starfield?
It's been crazy. Everywhere I look on the gaming/tech/social media related internet, it seems like the conversation is about Starfield. It's been a few years since I've seen this type of hype and buildup towards a game's release. Maybe Cyberpunk 2077 a few years ago? But even that I don't...
What kind of character will you create in Starfield?
I'm thinking of doin a Good guy Riker playthrough, who doesn't take shit from anyone. But in such a playthrough, stealing would be prohibited.. Maybe I'll design my character after Mal from Firefly He could steal, be a robin hood kind of character who is still a good guy. Or maybe I'll...
What are you going to call your ship in Starfield?
I'm naming my ships after ships: The Satokasu The Sonally The Linaria The Talrrus The Taimatora
Starfield | What aspect of Starfield excites you the most?
The game clearly is doing a lot from piracy, base building and taming alien creatures. I think what excites me the most is the ability to modify your spaceship. I’m not normally that into modding my rides in other games, but there’s something so cool about how this game seems to handle it. I...
There's more but those have actual tidbits of news or real announcements, these are just pure hype threads from before the game released, some of the OPs are now banned, oops.
Notice that this is in no way indicative of the quality of the game, my wife is enjoying it a lot and ill jump in sometime next week but let's not try to rewrite history.
But I probably would've had been banned for trolling...
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I hate it when stuff is in the garage and bugs and spiders start accumulating.
I cleaned the garage out with the kids and some silver bugs and a big black spider were there rent free.
I cleaned the garage out with the kids and some silver bugs and a big black spider were there rent free.
Topher
Gold Member
Same here. Doesn't really matter what anyone else says. I'm almost at 100 hours and still plenty left to go.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Buddy it was the other way around; tons of people were saying Series X was going to destroy PS5 spec-wise due to the TF difference, faster RAM, and "the tools".
In reality despite those advantages the actual performance between both systems on multiplats has either been even or PS5 winning on performance more often than not.
I'm probably going to be playing a bit of it later this week with xCloud; not expecting anything revelatory, but if it's a fun enough game for a few hours it can at least get a thumbs up. The early hours, hopefully, are interesting enough.
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ShadowkillXNA
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Disengenous hypocrites and crybabies, following the lead straight from their leaders mouths and pr releases.
feynoob
Member
Those mods is what the game needs now, not the content. Things like FOV, menu, weopons can enhance the game's experience for alot of people. (Main complain is how the menu system is trash as hell).
Isnt the numbers just userbase, and not the device? Because anywhere is 1 account playing the game on 2 device, but the same user as the saved data is being shared for both devices.
Plus this doesnt affect the actual data. Those data are usually anomoly and doesnt exceed 1k-5k.
The way it works is that A player plays the game certain hours. While B player plays more or less hours.
Not everyone plays the game for more than 2 hour, hence why the average is 2 hour. People who play more than 3 hours are small. Same for 6+ hours.
The region doesnt apply here, as users hours usually overlapps here. Its why the most optimal data is to use average ccu. As that data gives you more accurate numbers.
For example, skyrim special edition has peak hours of 27k and minimum lower userbase of 15k. The average numbers would be 20k. It goes up and down. Never below 15k and never higher than 27k. That is a 48 hour data.
Once you get that data, you break down hourly and give estimate of the playtime.
The reason why this data is important is because its hard to track everyone. Not everyone sits down and only dedicates 2 hour of their time to play the game. Its all over the place. And sometimes you get devices that has the game on, but busy with something (Steam machine makes you online while idle). But the guarenteed ones are the plays that log in their data. Even if a user logs more than 4 times, it cant exceed 4-6 hour limit.
They will be counted, but only on the days which they are logged in.
This is why the 24 hour cycle is important. It guarentees you less errors, unlike 48+ hour data.
GHG
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HeisenbergFX4
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StereoVsn
Member
That's possible as their games get better as mods get released. However, it's not worth paying $70 for that. In a year, with patches, at 50% off, this will be worth it.
ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT
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I also did it.
StereoVsn
Member
In case of Bethesda its more like let the modders fix it later. To be fair, the engine despite its faults is by far the most moldable out of AAA games.
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feynoob
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VectorVictor
Member
Fortunately you don’t have to imagine—it’s actually happening.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Amazing.
"Steam players" are the most reactionary group of man-children on the planet.
Draugoth
Gold Member
You can only do that because Skyrim released on 15 year old hardware as modern CPUs vastly outclasses the requirements for running the game.
You need a powerful CPU to fill games with mods as it eats up peformance the more you add it,
It will take 10 years for people to turn Starfield into Skyrim.
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Sonik
Member
"Steam players" are the most reactionary group of man-children on the planet.
Nice buzzwords there buddy, steam reviews are still the most accurate on the internet
supernova8
Banned
"Game is kinda meh right now.......but just wait until the year 2035 for all those sweet mods, baby!"
Is definitely not something they would want to slap on the back of the game box right
Topher
Gold Member
With Starfield? Nah.....there's no evidence of that.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The narratives coming out around this are fascinating, on all sides of the gaming spectrum.
Never thought I would see the day, that Steam reviews are delegated to Meta user review levels, but here we are.
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MiguelItUp
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Honestly, I can't say that I'm surprised. I just beat the game, and I enjoyed it for what it was. But I definitely feel like it was lacking in a lot of ways, unfortunately. Basically in the ways I was concerned about before it even released. I just don't see this having massive staying power for the majority.
EDMIX
Member
You mean the people who bought the game with their money? I'd say they might have the most valid points.
We can 1. Prove they bought the game.
2. See how many hours was put in the game to understand the context of their viewpoint.
So...I don't know what to say to some of you, I own the fucking game myself, are we now saying even people who bought the fucking game must not be able to have an opinion or their views cant be taken seriously or ?
Fucking compared to what exactly though?
Nahh man, who the fuck can review this game? Who can give an opinion on this game? I've seen folks go from you don't own the game, to ok you own it, but not a lot of hours, ok you have some hours BUT you MUST have a bias or "steam players" and on and on, what exactly is the critiera for this shit so we can give it a rest?
Is it really that odd that someone thinks a fucking game is a 6 or 7? Shiiiiit this would not be my first time in here buying a game DAY 1 MIND YOU and saying its a 5 or a 6 or a 7 etc, I said that about Cyberpunk 2077, i felt ok with Days Gone being an 8 or a 7, I don't know how else to explain this man, buying a fucking game doesn't always mean the person playing feels its the greatest game of all time, I understand not everything is going to be 10/10 and even buy games all the time I know for sure won't be some fucking 10/10 GOTG type thing, but sorry to say...that is what Starfield looks and feels like right now, a 7/10 type game and thats not the worst thing in the world.
A fuck ton of games will release next year that I'll tell you is a 6 or 7 and gladly still buy them, but when someone BUYS a game and they intend to like what they bought, they are entitled to their opinion and I can't really think of any other criteria.
Even if we run on the ole "yOu HaVe tO LiKe beTheSdA tYpEz gAmEz" logic, sir...I've day 1 their games for generations now and still think this is a 7...
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yamaci17
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majority of negative reviews on steam is performance bound; not the game's quality itself. yes,
and it is completely understandable.
modern games do not work well on midrange hardware anymore (which most own). not special to starfield. starfield is in a much better state than jedi and last of us part 1. go look jedi survivor. its a very good game but reviews are whack because more than %70 of the community cannot play the game decently.
and it is completely understandable.
modern games do not work well on midrange hardware anymore (which most own). not special to starfield. starfield is in a much better state than jedi and last of us part 1. go look jedi survivor. its a very good game but reviews are whack because more than %70 of the community cannot play the game decently.
Barakov
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demigod
Member
Whats so modern about Starfield? The lack of hdr? Uglyass NPCs that look like they are from the 360 era? Countless load times? Last gen games look better.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Killjoy-NL
Member
Just like the "9Tf machine" wizards?
GHG
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yamaci17
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by modern I meant new
also game looks better than most lastgen games at 4K/4K upscaled. recent games only look how they supposed to look at 4K or 4K upscaled (input resolution doesn't matter much as long as it is above 1200p+ with FSR and 1080p+ with DLSS)
we're in an era where most devs use super aggresive TAA + undersampling, where the entire graphics pipeline of games break up completely at 1440p / 1080p
cyberpunk at 1440p is a ugly mess, worse than most lastgen games. cyberpunk at 4k/upscaled (even with 1080p input), is peak crossgen
it is a problem devs themselves have created. and definitely not special to Starfield. guardians of galaxy for example looks like a blurry soup and worse than %90 of lastgen games at 1440p. at 4K, it really shines and you can see what it is about.
this is not about Starfield but in general that most people will not be able understand / experience the graphical shifts that is happening right now if they're playing at 1440p. not much I can do about that
(this has nothing to do with display resolution. it is all about render resolution).
because with modern TAA, 1440p is actually effectively looks how 720p would look like due to pixel soup. and 4K is only where games resemble how 1080p games would actually look like (so, no or complimentary TAA that are used with PS4 games between 2013-2017. take a look at bf5, battlefront 2 or ac origins. brilliantly used TAA that does not make the game a soupy mess. the look at how valhalla looks on PS4. definitely worse than odyssey/origins. because Valhalla has more TAA soup despire featuring higher fidelity rendering options and more dense cities and foliages [making TAA more soupy allowed them that. that is where the problems start].
TAA practically has become an easy way for developers to trade higher graphics settings/higher graphical loads with same performance. we're all paying the price for it.
last of us part 1 at 1080p/high settings LOOKS EXTREMELY worse than rise of tomb raider at 1080p. it is due to aggresive TAA being tuned for 4K. the game also looks a soupy mess at 1440p/60 FPS on PS5 also . Only looks like how IT SHOULD at 4k/30 FPS and nothing less.
tlou part 1 at 4k is one of the best looking games of the genre.
tlou part 1 at 1440p is at beast is a peak lastgen game
tlou part 1 at 1080p can be mistaken for a PS3-PS4 crossgen game (no jokes).
no way in history where resolution made such stark differences for a game's fidelity. but it does now. it is all because TAA.
majority of people who play starfield and other recent games play at 1440p/1080p. people are afraid of 4K due to GPU+performance costs.
they're unaware that 4K/FSR performance looks miles better than "native 1440p", I'm not going to even delve into "1440p upscaled" where sub900p is used for reconstruction, which most people have to use to get high framerates in Starfield (not that they have to. this is a slow paced game. it is perfectly playable at 40 FPS.)
one last perspective for you to comprehend me clearly:
Jedi Survivor at 1080p LOOKS EXTREMELY WORSE, LITERALLY EXTREMELY worse than BATTLEFRONT 2.
Jedi Survivor at 1440p is a decent looking game but barely matches battlefront 2. if at all.
Jedi Survivor at 4k... is one of the best looking games of currentgen.
no where in world rendering a game at 1440p1080p should make it worse than 6+ year old games. but it does now. and people are literally getting affected by it. its a problem developers will have to solve. or not.
game sells copies regardless.
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Mr.Phoenix
Member
WTF?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Elysium44
Banned
You didn't bold the part that made it make sense - 'at 4K'. TAA is bad for gaming.
Reddit - Dive into anything
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feynoob
Member
People will flock in once performance issue is fixed.
Right now, review people are dancing and having a party, especially certain people here.
I won't have to worry about any of these.
ShadowkillXNA
Member
Nope.
ShadowkillXNA
Member
No evidence for anything you're spouting here at all.
Stop listening to the voices emanating from your anus, they're not a valid source of information.
And you're right, some fanboys are fucked up:
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feynoob
Member
Does these review bomb serve any purpose?
People complain we too much, then go ahead and buy the thing they complain about.
We seen that with every new game, which people like mobs. Then go a head and praise it after 2-3 months like it's a good game.
Then you have sport/COD fans who literally buy those games every freaking year, despite making it 2.0 negative reviews.
Tldr, people have gold fish memory and will spend money on things they hate for some reason.
MadchesterManc
Member
This thread has been kinda fun to keep jumping back in to read past few days. It's amusing now seeing the chest beating first page replies for the 89% make way for conspiracies and excuses as the score decreases over the next 20 pages
Yeah, steam userbase deranged quite a bit in a span of just a few days
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phaedrus
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gaming_again
Member
Perfect avatar/text combo.
yazenov
Member
Yeah, steam reviews were relevant and a cause for celebration in the first few pages, but then the narrative changed quickly with each newly updated score. Its fun to watch.
feynoob
Member
It's why you don't celebrate low data results.
twilo99
Member
From what I can see there is at least another 100hrs in there for you..
It’s a great game.
twilo99
Member
I don’t understand how CoD gets such low reviews, it makes no sense.
feynoob
Member
Because their fans are always mad about their games. Not to mention, the series has the devs working on it.
It's like a roulette.
GHG
Member
Interesting looking at a snapshot of the latest negative reviews at this moment, they are all 'key' symbols indicating it was bought on third party sites so can't be refunded. So these aren't review bombers.
Poor wagner. Someone please tell him about or gift him BG3.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Damn, this is definitely falling below Fallout 76 then.
Starfield is only 1.18% points away from that happening. And Fallout 76 has ~40,000 more user reviews than Starfield.
May even fall below 70% and into the "mixed" Steam review threshold.
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