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EXCLUSIVE | Microsoft plans Starfield launch for PlayStation 5
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Gambit2483
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I would love to see Starfield's total sales numbers. It has to be one of Bethesda's all-time worst selling AAA titles.
If they want to actually make a profit on these games then this makes absolute sense, cuz shit ain't selling on Xbox.
If they want to actually make a profit on these games then this makes absolute sense, cuz shit ain't selling on Xbox.
And quit gaming? Pc is hassle and online on that is always going to suck
expect a much harsher feedback, since ps5 players like on steam will have to pay full price for this turd.
H From Steps
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Lmao they’ll hype it again with the dlc and add the we reworked a lot of stuff in the game and boom instant sales again.
CityHunter1981
Member
Not really surprising, it is clear at this point, that Microsoft does not really much care about XBOX anymore and why should they. They make much more money with Gamepass and software sales and already have their own platform (Windows).
Especially with the recent increase of Steam Deck competitor devices, there is not really much reason for them to have another separate platform. Especially in the beginning of a console cycle they actually loose money often with each sold console and make their profits with the software sales.
It’s a different Story for Sony and Nintendo, which doesn’t have another platform and if they would sell at PC they will get less money compared to selling on their own platform, but Microsoft does not have this problem.
Especially with the recent increase of Steam Deck competitor devices, there is not really much reason for them to have another separate platform. Especially in the beginning of a console cycle they actually loose money often with each sold console and make their profits with the software sales.
It’s a different Story for Sony and Nintendo, which doesn’t have another platform and if they would sell at PC they will get less money compared to selling on their own platform, but Microsoft does not have this problem.
FoxMcChief
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Makes me wonder how much Sony can get away with selling the PS6 for with no competition. I’d imagine PS+ and exclusives cost will go up as well. They would have less incentive to release their games on PC.
But, we shall see.
H From Steps
Member
I still think they release on pc still some money to make as far as console price
RickMasters
Member
Playstation won.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
They were always going to win, between the two.
RickMasters
Member
They are gonna have a fucking field day. They have no competition anymore. MS handed t he m a massive W. All Sony needs to do is accept gamepass on PlayStation now.
RickMasters
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RCU005
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I actually want Microsoft to go third party. First of all, it super makes sense. They have tons of studios now, and their consoles just don't sell well enough.
Most importantly, I want a partnership with Nintendo for games like Banjo Kazooie, and a partnership with Sony for a new IP.
Most importantly, I want a partnership with Nintendo for games like Banjo Kazooie, and a partnership with Sony for a new IP.
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RyanEvans21
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Competition? Xbox already in 3rd place before PS5 released. if that so happen? people just wait for PS Exclusive coming to PC.
WitchHunter
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Interesting if this turns out to be true.
EXCLUSIVE | Microsoft plans Starfield launch for PlayStation 5
For many weeks now, rumours have persisted regarding Microsoft’s intentions to release a number of 1st party games – namely Hi-Fi Rush and Sea of Thievesxboxera.com
bitbydeath
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Sony won’t allow it, Xbox will need to try keep that alive by itself. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear if it’s on the way out too.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Wow. I'm surprised. I'm just taking in the multiple threads now. I wouldn't have been too surprised if it were just Sea of Thieves and Hi-Fi Rush, although even that would have been significant -- a foot in the door and an indication that more was to come. But to hear about major, recent high-profile exclusives like Starfield, maybe Indiana Jones, maybe Hellblade II, maybe others ... I'm stunned that it seems to be happening at that scale and so swiftly.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
gaming won
farmerboy
Member
What? The kind where he loses? I guess that makes sense with MS logic tho.
Sorry, should have put the /s at the end of my post.
Gambit2483
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Even if there wasn't competition from Xbox they still can't just go all out crazy. Try putting a console on the market for $600 and see how poorly it sells (in comparison to previous systems). They still have to follow the market trends and demands.
Also if Sony went crazy with prices people will always have Nintendo for their gaming fix.
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If they do go down this path, there’s probably no need for me to buy an Xbox console
and yet we’ve heard nothing about a GP announcement for other consoles. And I’m not sure how that would work either.
I admit I certainly didn’t see this pivot to timed exclusivity/multiplatform support coming. Seems like a move that could end up backfiring down the line, but we’ll see.
You all should've listened to me 2 years ago....
Phil Spencer promoted to CEO of MS Gaming
Phil Spencers goal is to turn Xbox into a cloud-based subscription service. His goal is to make Xbox encompass hardware, cloud streaming and PC. And Push as many people as possible in the ecosystem to Gamepass.www.neogaf.com
and yet we’ve heard nothing about a GP announcement for other consoles. And I’m not sure how that would work either.
I admit I certainly didn’t see this pivot to timed exclusivity/multiplatform support coming. Seems like a move that could end up backfiring down the line, but we’ll see.
Nvidia raised prices and people grumbled and still bought.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
We shall see. I’m really curious how Sony will price the PS6 after this.
BattleScar
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PC gaming has always been more tolerant of high prices. Its an expensive hobby.
Pricing the PS6 too high could ultimately reduce sales. Particularly in price-sensitive markets. Their lunch would just get eaten by Nintendo.
They'd need to carefully consider where they position their products.
Though at that juncture, they could basically operate Microsoft's Low-end, high-end double SKU strategy, but better.
RickMasters
Member
Of course they will allow it. They are gonna get their competitors games on their platform. What makes you think they will not allow halo, starfield and the rest on PS?
SuperYoshi
Neo Member
Give Jim Ryan his flowers if this is true.
aliadiere25
Member
I called it years ago when they bought ZeniMax. And, they spent 500m on it so they're trying to get some money back.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
around 499 and 599. It needs to compete with Nvidia GPUs
Neff
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I said from the beginning that this was never set in stone. Starfield was MS' most important Gamepass-related experiment- to see if a major exclusive by a major studio could boost Gamepass subs and reveal data regarding its potential future reliance on said exclusives. Apparently it has not.
Also watch people start to say they like Bethesda games again.
It's a solid and addictive if old-fashioned game with numerous issues, most prominently being that after the first 15-20 hours you start to see the same things too often. Damn what a great fifteen hours though.
Also watch people start to say they like Bethesda games again.
It's a solid and addictive if old-fashioned game with numerous issues, most prominently being that after the first 15-20 hours you start to see the same things too often. Damn what a great fifteen hours though.
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RickMasters
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Exactly….. it’s not like people will have an alternative choice in the situation either. It will be Playstation or nothing.
FoxMcChief
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Nvidia can raise their prices alongside Sony. Gamers paying more. Gaming certainly did “win”
Chittagong
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RickMasters
Member
No it doesn’t. Console gamers are NOT pC gamers…. Tho the Xbox crowd might be about to prove that wrong.
I can’t bring myself to buy a PS. It’s not even because of Sony. I think they are a wonderful company. It’s the insuffarable PlayStation fanboy. They have always been a nasty breed and now they get the last laugh. I just can’t bring myself to own one because I don’t want to join them
….. steam….. I guess I’m going all in with you and Gabes posse. At least l can still use my Xbox relics ( the controller)
ABnormal
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Yes, without any competitor Sony would start resting on laurels, pushing less on R&D and maybe further increasing prices. At the same time, MS has become such a cancer in the gaming industry that I hope they will leave the market or cease to seize existing IPs and push for GP.
But who could stand up to Sony on that? SEGA resurgence would be a dream, but they have no more the money and resources to do that.
RickMasters
Member
Reaped what we sowed.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
PC won.
Hawking Radiation
Member
OH MY GOD.
THIS TOO !!!
I can't keep up
THIS TOO !!!
I can't keep up
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
If Nvidia rise their prices then a lot of people will come to Play Station, sony prices their console based in a mainstream market
Simply Sami
Member
Xbox strategy of not charging £70 on day 1 has cost them a lot of money.
Yeah, we can all bleat on the value of gamepass and blah blah. But these subs only work in terms of profit when you bring old games to them. You just losing money when you bringing Starfield out on day 1 on it. This wasn’t sustainable and Uncle Jim as much hate as he gets was right. MS should have charged for new exclusive games on release and waited a year before putting them on gamepass. Basically treat it like how PS does their plus tier.
Yeah, we can all bleat on the value of gamepass and blah blah. But these subs only work in terms of profit when you bring old games to them. You just losing money when you bringing Starfield out on day 1 on it. This wasn’t sustainable and Uncle Jim as much hate as he gets was right. MS should have charged for new exclusive games on release and waited a year before putting them on gamepass. Basically treat it like how PS does their plus tier.
Imtjnotu
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Very cool, now we might be able to have nice discussions about it on NeoGAF
MarkMe2525
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Idk, they broke the news that reviewers were going to give Starfield mid reviews for extra clicks and engagement. /s
RickMasters
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Gambit2483
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The PC market and who they cater to is different from the console market.
PC market customers are more willing to spend more in general than the average customer in the console market
Badlucktroll
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So Xbox finally got their ticket punched? Unreal.