Majormaxxx
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Gt Sport was a good game. 85 in my book except for the online save.
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Jason Scheier: "Starfield 83 Metacritic Score was only possible because of Xbox outlets"
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That year was rough. Only Elden Ring and Ragnorak were true goty contenders. The rest was fluff. If Ragnorak came out in 2023, it would be around 90.
Id rate GOW around 85. Great game, but underwhelming finale to a series with so much more potential.
Mister Wolf
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I stand on that quote. World, writing, rpg mechanics, visuals, companions, and most importantly combat will all be better.
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cormack12
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Jason Schreier whinges about Bethesda ignoring them — Steemit
Am I the only one who finds it rather funny and ironic that the very so-called video game “journalists” and I use the… by suitablybored
Jason still bitter
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Familiar names on twitter too
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Metacritic user scores are indeed useless because anybody can bomb them - and people do.To me, user scores are more unreliable than MC scores since all it takes is some internet bombing and a game can go down the drain. As much as people like to hate FIFA, WOW, COD etc.... these games can get user score bombed to 1 or 2/10. Thats worse than Big Rigs Racing. So for you guys comparing MC scores to user scores, dont forget these if user scores are so accurate.
The Last of Us Part II
Five years after their dangerous journey across the post-pandemic United States, Ellie and Joel have settled down in Jackson, Wyoming. Living amongst a thriving community of survivors has allowed them peace and stability, despite the constant threat of the infected and other, more desperate...www.metacritic.com
The Last of Us Part II Remastered
Play the winner of over 300 Game of the Year awards, now remastered for the PlayStation5 console. Experience for the first time or relive Ellie and Abby's story with graphical enhancements, new gameplay modes like the roguelike survival experience No Return, full DualSense wireless controller...
Verified Steam user reviews are another story though. They are as accurate as user reviews can possibly be.
Topher
Gold Member
To me, user scores are more unreliable than MC scores since all it takes is some internet bombing and a game can go down the drain. As much as people like to hate FIFA, WOW, COD etc.... these games can get user score bombed to 1 or 2/10. Thats worse than Big Rigs Racing. So for you guys comparing MC scores to user scores, dont forget these if user scores are so accurate.
The Last of Us Part II
Five years after their dangerous journey across the post-pandemic United States, Ellie and Joel have settled down in Jackson, Wyoming. Living amongst a thriving community of survivors has allowed them peace and stability, despite the constant threat of the infected and other, more desperate...The Last of Us Part II Remastered
Play the winner of over 300 Game of the Year awards, now remastered for the PlayStation5 console. Experience for the first time or relive Ellie and Abby's story with graphical enhancements, new gameplay modes like the roguelike survival experience No Return, full DualSense wireless controller...
Yeah......but don't compare Metacritic user scores to Steam user scores either.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
They quoted a different Metro site as 5/5. They should had called it Metro Time.yep, I called that long ago
They also faked METRO's score lol
It was 3/5 "Starfield review – the final verdict: outdated, unambitious and disjointed"
Starfield's Rating Sparks Controversy: Microsoft in the Spotlight | Game | NEWS
Recent rating claims about the game Starfield by Microsoft have sparked debate. Online detectives have pinpointed potential discrepancies in the promotional material. According to Microsoft's presen
Avec Starfield, Xbox s’approche enfin des étoiles: «C’est la claque de la rentrée» - Metrotime
Starfield, le nouveau jeu de Bethesda, débarque ce 6 septembre en exclusivité sur Xbox et PC. Endossez votre combinaison d’explorateur spatial, installez-vous confortablement dans votre vaisseau et accrochez-vous car Starfield est le jeu de la rentrée, peut-être même de l’année !
www.metrotime.be
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
I would argue that it pales in comparison to what Sony did with the mtx in GT7.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
T4keD0wN
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He is right, metacritic is trash because they count reviews from platform related sites, but this extends to literally every game on there. Everything Fandom Inc. touches is trash.
Granted i admit it makes perfect sense that an xbox related site would review an xbox game, etc. The least they could do is let you filter such sites.
Granted i admit it makes perfect sense that an xbox related site would review an xbox game, etc. The least they could do is let you filter such sites.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
Yeah, I don't know what the answer is.
I remember that 94 is why I bought Ragnarok, and I didn't make it more than 10 hours. I was very let down but the lowest I'd go was an 8 just because so much of it is polished and well made. That was a BotW level transformative score, 94. I ended up really regretting that purchase, so I don't know what happened there. That's a hugely significant "all time great" type of score.
I don't know what happens with most reviews these days. I know Starfield has some flaws, but nothing I played warranted a 4/10 like Sterling gave it, or 6/10 like Metro. Even Ragnarok which I hated I would give an 8 by trying to take my own opinion out of it and just look at what's there. I feel like there's very little of that happening with Starfield though.
I don't get it.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Been going on for probably 20 years. Coincidentally, video game review scores all seemed to edge up to that 6-10 scale when the internet ramped up in the late 90s/early 2000s. Super high scores and often (not always) the reviews launched first on the net are the high marks and then when the dust settles the game score edges down. It's almost never happens the other way where the meh scores come out first and all the good scores comes the next few days making an MC or OC score actually go up.
Freelance Yakuza
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Thank you, good to know the truthThey quoted a different Metro site as 5/5. They should had called it Metro Time.
Starfield's Rating Sparks Controversy: Microsoft in the Spotlight | Game | NEWS
Recent rating claims about the game Starfield by Microsoft have sparked debate. Online detectives have pinpointed potential discrepancies in the promotional material. According to Microsoft's presengamegpu.tech
Avec Starfield, Xbox s’approche enfin des étoiles: «C’est la claque de la rentrée» - Metrotime
Starfield, le nouveau jeu de Bethesda, débarque ce 6 septembre en exclusivité sur Xbox et PC. Endossez votre combinaison d’explorateur spatial, installez-vous confortablement dans votre vaisseau et accrochez-vous car Starfield est le jeu de la rentrée, peut-être même de l’année !
Guess I can make a joke about MS using ANY website lol
Topher
Gold Member
Same thing. PC users bombed it too.
Wrong. Not the same thing at all. Metacritic users bombed the game before it was even released. That is why Metacritic changed when user reviews could be submitted. Steam reviews were by those who actually bought the game and TLOU 1 reviews reflected the horrible port. That's why you see "Recent Reviews" as "Very Positive" because the issues were largely fixed.
After ‘The Last Of Us Part 2’ Insanity, Metacritic Has Changed User Score Submissions
In the wake of The Last of Us Part 2 review bombing, we can see Metacritic has changed user scores now that Ghost of Tsushima is here.
www.forbes.com
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Pelta88
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Just like The Last of Us.
I wonder which of the two ip made enough money and resonated well enough to get a sequel?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
LOL. Hey, if anyone else made a site called Metro giving 5/5 they'd use it too. Metro Mammoth Mammories gives a 5/5!
Mr Moose
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Daneel Elijah
Gold Member
Shit I did it too. I knew that he was Schreier but when I looked at the title it was scheier so I trusted the OP. Shame on me.
tommib
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
And rightfully so. it was the worst fucking port of last year, if not all time. It was completely broken. Completely.Same thing. PC users bombed it too.
cormack12
Gold Member
I dunno, diablo iv is a good game. I think it would be useful if these sites showed a timeline of patches as well because a less than stellar launch or people moaning about xp grind can skew the stats.
Look at recent reviews for example. Someone complaining that their character is nerfed - is that the bugged sorcerer or the stupid HotA barb? Does it matter when everyone gets nerfed going back to eternal anyway?
Honestly it's all just drama. Any review scores now are pretty pointless. I file them as reliable as the obvious outlier in jim sterling's top 10 shittiest games bit.
I see no change in the worm
Tsaki
Member
Yep. All of them pull the Meta score up as they are above the average.
IMO every publication that has a focus on a platform, should not be on MC or OC.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I wouldn't say PC users bombed it. The performance was sub-par, so the mixed user reviews were justified for TLOU P1.Same thing. PC users bombed it too.
Roxkis_ii
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Lol @ people trying to downplay the Xbox brand site scores for Starfield. So no Xbox fan though it was funny that the first batch of reviews all came from Xbox branded sites but hardly anyone else?
I guess people doesn't see the wave of Astroturfing when they are swimming in the Koolaid. Sixteen Starfield threads ignored before release. Funny how I didn't feel the need to ignore Starfield threads after release though!
Starfield is the gift that keeps on giving on neogaf.
I guess people doesn't see the wave of Astroturfing when they are swimming in the Koolaid. Sixteen Starfield threads ignored before release. Funny how I didn't feel the need to ignore Starfield threads after release though!
Starfield is the gift that keeps on giving on neogaf.
ByWatterson
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I don't think I have words to express how clever this post is.
Ribi
Member
Based on the meta critic criteria tho a good game is rated at 7/10 so then you agree
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
It's failing in many aspects that you mentioned even in the direct video. Especially the combat system, which I believe is the best part of Starfield, is definitely not going to be any better. We're talking about a game where spells have an impact like a water gun. Of course, the game hasn't been released yet, maybe they will improve it a lot more(like... a lot).
Ass of Can Whooping
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Great job Avengers 
Topher
Gold Member
Based on just about every review score definitions I've ever seen, 7/10 is a good score.
Jason Scheirer hint:
-The shameless and numerous notes below what is credible and to do harm according to him did not exist.
-Notes of 4/10, 5/10, 6/10 shameless for the mere fact of being Xbox and Bethesda not existed ...
-There are only proXbox analysts while there are no analysts inflating ratings for Playstation or Nintendo games...
OK, Jason Scheirer, I'm sure you knew that many people were going to buy this from you
-The shameless and numerous notes below what is credible and to do harm according to him did not exist.
-Notes of 4/10, 5/10, 6/10 shameless for the mere fact of being Xbox and Bethesda not existed ...
-There are only proXbox analysts while there are no analysts inflating ratings for Playstation or Nintendo games...
OK, Jason Scheirer, I'm sure you knew that many people were going to buy this from you
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
The PC metacritic score (86) is higher than the xbox version (83) though and omits basically all the 'xbox is awesome' sites.
They orchestrated it well. Anybody remember this?
www.neogaf.com
Tells you something about DF too
Eurogamer why our Starfield: review will be late (DF unaffected and will be on time)
All UK sites seem affected Axios too UPDATE: they just received a code Just two days away from Starfield's review embargo, Eurogamer is still to receive a copy of the game from Bethesda. No publisher is obligated to provide a copy of their game to us, but it is important we are able to...
Tells you something about DF too
Topher
Gold Member
That's a fact. I remember pointing that out several times during the early Starfield discussions.
Roxkis_ii
Member
That fact that so many of those pc reviews deviate so far from the general impression the Steam reviews give is very telling....
All those sites that gave the game a 90 + on PC are sus.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's not a surprise that the game is a relative piece of shit given the studio and budget behind it. And that is holding it to the standard that it should be held at. This isn't a small indie developer. This is a developer that's had a long time to refine the engine which is still being paraded around like an old skeleton with a new coat of paint.
Nothing fixes the UI, the pacing and all the other issues that still are there. It's a nice stale looking space game and deserve the criticism that it got. But I also don't think that just because they're Xbox sites that they necessarily speak for the consensus on a good or bad level. It does say a lot for any site to give this anything above a certain score. Looking at that 100 score, you can't tell me this game in its current state. Even now is anywhere near close to 100. This was a solid 5.5 or 6 when it came out. And that's being generous. Gamer should expect more and just shouldn't lick the teeth right off of bethesda's tacos. And if some of that came out wrong then blame the voice generator on my phone.
It doesn't change the fact that Starfield is a subpar disappointment and that it was overrated when it came out and has since been properly gauged and reviewed by the community and in general, The verdict has been logged out on the game. It's a disappointment and nowhere near as good as the scores say. At least when it comes to those mainstream scores including those Xbox websites which are totally wrong.
Nothing fixes the UI, the pacing and all the other issues that still are there. It's a nice stale looking space game and deserve the criticism that it got. But I also don't think that just because they're Xbox sites that they necessarily speak for the consensus on a good or bad level. It does say a lot for any site to give this anything above a certain score. Looking at that 100 score, you can't tell me this game in its current state. Even now is anywhere near close to 100. This was a solid 5.5 or 6 when it came out. And that's being generous. Gamer should expect more and just shouldn't lick the teeth right off of bethesda's tacos. And if some of that came out wrong then blame the voice generator on my phone.
It doesn't change the fact that Starfield is a subpar disappointment and that it was overrated when it came out and has since been properly gauged and reviewed by the community and in general, The verdict has been logged out on the game. It's a disappointment and nowhere near as good as the scores say. At least when it comes to those mainstream scores including those Xbox websites which are totally wrong.
Calverz
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FalsettoVibe
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TheGodfather07
Member
Jason is brave saying that knowing full well that the xbox twitter mob will come after him. He's totally right too. The amount of reviews with xbox in their name is ridiculous and most of them gave a perfect score. How the fuck can anyone give starfield a 10?
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Also, yes Forbes is also effectively a fan site.
Contributor articles tend to be sponsored content, and I highly doubt Forbes is the one supplying the contributor with the game for review.
Hawking Radiation
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How are there even this many Xbox specific gaming websites that do reviews in the first place?
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