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After Cancelling Most PC Ports, Sony Promotes New 'PC Ready' Controller

I love my Xbox One controller on PC. It was a nice upgrade from the Xbox 360 controllers I was using heavily and wearing out.

No thanks Sony.
 
Prodyhig said:
Are the rumors being taken as fact?

Because Sony hasn't confirmed anything at all about returning to complete exclusivity for single-player games.

The title is quite pretentious.
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The won't confirm it, but it has been more than a year since last time they announced a PC port.
 
The DualSense is anything but PC ready. I wish it were but it's still a half assed imitation of an Xbox controller for 99.9% of games and requires additional software to unlock a tiny portion of its capabilities on PS5.
 
Stuart360 said:
Maybe this new controller helps with compatability with games or something.
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I don't think so. For Sony controllers to work on PC the same way Xbox controllers do, in a true plug and play way, Sony would need to release proper Windows drivers for them. And honestly, they don't seem very interested in doing that.

At this point I just use DSX with my DualSense on PC and it works pretty much everywhere. They even updated it recently to support haptic feedback and adaptive triggers wirelessly. I tested it in Cyberpunk not long ago and it worked just fine.
 
Holy crap, I thought Sony were finally releasing a USB dongle but this is just a normal Dualsense with a USB wire bundled. You can't write that stuff.
 
Fbh said:
The thread isn't about Controller vs M&K, it's about Sony still promoting the Dualsense on PC despite a report that they are scaling back their PC porting of single player games.
Me and others are pointing out that there's nothing weird about that and the two things aren't really connected.
PC still has and will be getting tons of games with controller support, and Sony themselves will still release some of them.
There's literally no reason for Sony to no longer promote their controller on PC simply because they'll be releasing fewer ports of their single player games on PC.
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Precisely. Sony can make controllers for PC even if they don't release any PS games on PC. They're a hardware company.
 
JayK47 said:
I love my Xbox One controller on PC. It was a nice upgrade from the Xbox 360 controllers I was using heavily and wearing out.

No thanks Sony.
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Thats why the "PC Ready" controller is coming with the USB cable......to fully utilize the DualSense you need the cable or third party software.

If this controller is also coming with with some new drivers for bluetooth........im in.







<-----Is NOT in, will keep using Series controller but will be happy to use the DualSense in games that make good use of it.
 
EverydayBeast said:
Sony needs to focus on AAA games, I would rather have more exclusives on PS5, I look at PS6 and we're going to blame PS5 & SONY for focusing on PC. I think that will be PS5's flaw, it reminds me of Xbox One being fixated on TV, Kinect etc.

Sony needs aggressive exclusives to PS5 only, GT8 would be a great start, Ratchet and Clank 2, Spider-Man 4, Socom remastered, Horizon 3 would impress people, Uncharted 6 but you play as Nathan Drakes daughter, Little big planet 4, Blodeborne 2 etc.
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If they did a Socom game it would probably be a remake to be a live service game. Bloodborne 2 probably won't happen. The rest you listed there will probably be remakes of uncharted before they do an Uncharted 6.
 
This, plus Sony pulling back from PC, aren't incompatible. It's going to be a managed decline and won't be an immediate or even announced pullback. DualSense is also like the best controller ever (imo), and many games support it via Steam input and by including PlayStation glyphs in the UI settings. It makes some sense to sell peripherals on the side to PC gamers.
 
Buggy Loop said:
Which you would never ( I hope ) find a GaaS player be using a controller?
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If I played those games I would use a controller. Mouse and keyboard are too easy. It's like toddler mode... yeah I said it. 😎
 
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LectureMaster said:
Yeah remember they announced a slew of those desktop focused shits and gotta find a way to sell. I doubt PC players would give a fuck tho.

blog.playstation.com

First look at PlayStation’s 27” Gaming Monitor

Built for desktop gaming with a PS5, the upcoming monitor combines bold visuals and performance and includes a charging hook for the DualSense wireless controller.
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PULSE Elevate™ wireless speakers | PlayStation desktop speakers for PS5, PC or Mac

Bring exceptionally lifelike gaming audio and clear voice chat to your desktop setup with PULSE Elevate™ wireless speakers.
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Remember that these are still marketed under the PlayStation brand. Sony has their own PC gaming brand called INZone so I would reckon that the primary audience is still PS5 users.

That being said plans change, and sometimes they change too late and these products might have been under a different lane of thinking prior to this change.

OverHeat said:
Shit product🤢
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You don't even have details about any of it yet so wtf do you know. Plus, it's obviously not aimed at you Mr. I bought an FPS gaming arm sleeve (L O fucking L) and think that the entry level gaming PC market should disappear.

Senua said:
You're at a disadvantage competitively.
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1. Not all GAAS titles (you know the titles that Sony are still going to be releasing) are twitchy competitive shooters. For example, I know quite a few people that play Helldivers 2 and not a single person uses MKB.
2. I can go back and forth between mouse and controller in BF6 for example and not notice too awfully much of a change. I can still reliably be in the top 1/3 (as I get older I'll take it as I know it's not the BF3/4 days where I can consistently be in the top 3/4 players in my team or my MW2/BO days) on controller on PC. I see controller users in the top 5 players ALL THE TIME.
3. Personally, I can't even play stuff like COD or Halo on anything but controller. I actually bought Marathon on PS5 versus Steam because I preferred controller (well and it's easier to move my PS5 Pro back and forth from my desk and my TV then my PC).

You can say oh but it's because of the aim assist and yes but that aim assist is there to try to even things out because of the inherent disadvantages. My point is really just to say that there are tons of controller users in every FPS on PC outside of maybe stuff like ARMA and not all GAAS are even twitchy enough to say that you're even at a disadvantage in general.

Celcius said:
Maybe Sony isn't cancelling the PC ports after all. They haven't made an official statement and we've only been hearing rumors and 3rd party reports. I'm going to take this to assume that they may very well continue with the PC ports until they say otherwise themselves.
There's still hope!
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asdasdasdbb said:
Perhaps they will push PS Cloud Streaming on PC harder. You'd need a controller for that.
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Or perhaps if people paid attention, it's not that Sony is cancelling all PC ports and it's that they are cancelling their single player ports. That still leaves their own GAAS titles, titles mandated like MLB (though I don't think MLB is on PC but something like Spider-Man/Wolverine could be mandated by Marvel for example), and just the fact that the controller is usable on pc games in general and therefore easy income.

Cakeboxer said:
And if they stopped releasing games for Pc, i don't think they would make a big announcement about it. They would just stop releasing them.
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Yeah, I don't think it even makes sense to announce the change. Announcing it only attracts negative press/feedback and just quietly not releasing anymore ports is much better IMO.

Dzab said:
I agree. People are just finding things to complain and whine about. I play regular PC games with DS4 (in the past) or dualsense, they don't HAVE to be used for PS only games on PC as if there's some unwritten rule.
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hououinkyouma00 said:
Remember that these are still marketed under the PlayStation brand. Sony has their own PC gaming brand called INZone so I would reckon that the primary audience is still PS5 users.

That being said plans change, and sometimes they change too late and these products might have been under a different lane of thinking prior to this change.


You don't even have details about any of it yet so wtf do you know. Plus, it's obviously not aimed at you Mr. I bought an FPS gaming arm sleeve (L O fucking L) and think that the entry level gaming PC market should disappear.


1. Not all GAAS titles (you know the titles that Sony are still going to be releasing) are twitchy competitive shooters. For example, I know quite a few people that play Helldivers 2 and not a single person uses MKB.
2. I can go back and forth between mouse and controller in BF6 for example and not notice too awfully much of a change. I can still reliably be in the top 1/3 (as I get older I'll take it as I know it's not the BF3/4 days where I can consistently be in the top 3/4 players in my team or my MW2/BO days) on controller on PC. I see controller users in the top 5 players ALL THE TIME.
3. Personally, I can't even play stuff like COD or Halo on anything but controller. I actually bought Marathon on PS5 versus Steam because I preferred controller (well and it's easier to move my PS5 Pro back and forth from my desk and my TV then my PC).

You can say oh but it's because of the aim assist and yes but that aim assist is there to try to even things out because of the inherent disadvantages. My point is really just to say that there are tons of controller users in every FPS on PC outside of maybe stuff like ARMA and not all GAAS are even twitchy enough to say that you're even at a disadvantage in general.



Or perhaps if people paid attention, it's not that Sony is cancelling all PC ports and it's that they are cancelling their single player ports. That still leaves their own GAAS titles, titles mandated like MLB (though I don't think MLB is on PC but something like Spider-Man/Wolverine could be mandated by Marvel for example), and just the fact that the controller is usable on pc games in general and therefore easy income.


Yeah, I don't think it even makes sense to announce the change. Announcing it only attracts negative press/feedback and just quietly not releasing anymore ports is much better IMO.


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Cry me a river
 
I mean...these decisions take time. These products were made and planned years in advance, probably from the previous CEO. The decision to forget PC releases is recent (late last year).

They wouldn't stop this release and lose money.

Edit: Also...nothing stops Sony from releasing controllers to PC. AS far as i know you could use PS controllers on PC even before they released games on PC lol.
 
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HitmanMaul said:
Wasn't it always PC ready? I've used it on iPad and a Mac.
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Yes, people don't think.

You could still use a dualsense controller to play other games on PC. This controller has nothing to do with them ending first party exclusives single player games on PC.

Even if that happens will not stop PC gamers from wanting to use a dualsense controller lol.
 
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I preferred Destiny 2 on controller over Mouse and Keyboard. That is probably the only shooter like that but I like to play some strange builds in Destiny 2 and that game can have very different gameplay depending on your preferred style. It's also mostly PvE. It also has almost as much platforming as shooting. I would not suggest controller is better at platforming than mouse and keyboard but I certainly haven't found it to be worse. Even gambits felt better on controller after a time.

Mouse and keyboard elitists are cool and all but never forget Halo and Gears and Metroid and all that shit existed and many of us played and play on consoles and the games were still fun. Even genre games that I never thought could be good on console have gotten good like Pikmin and Baldur's Gate 3/DOS2 by finally getting a reasonable control scheme. Sure Diablo 3 isn't as good on controller but it's still fine and most classes don't have any major gimps. We are finally able to play all of the genres on console because they have figured out the controller.

As far as who has an advantage, I don't care.

I haven't tried Armored Core 6 on PC but I also suspect that is a game I would prefer on controller. On topic, "PC Ready" really? Doesn't the regular controller also have the cable, lol?
 
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Is there a good Bluetooth implementation for dual shocks? It works great in Apple TV.

My experience is the Microsoft controller works great via Bluetooth but I've not tried the ps5 one.
 
The timing and language used is of more interest than that they will continue to sell controllers for PC. This does not strike me as the messaging of a company which has just undergone a Damascene conversion to viewing PC as a rival and existential threat. It feels more like a gentle pushing back against those rumours.
 
calico said:
The timing and language used is of more interest than that they will continue to sell controllers for PC. This does not strike me as the messaging of a company which has just undergone a Damascene conversion to viewing PC as a rival and existential threat. It feels more like a gentle pushing back against those rumours.
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I think it's been planned for some time. They already introduced keyboards, mice, speakers etc. And the Inzone monitor. But as it stands, DualSense and Sony support in general for Windows gaming is pretty half-arsed.
 
just a reminder to anyone out there, and this is in regards to Steam
Steam will almost always use steam input by default for dualsense. as such, features won't work in most games even if they're actually natively supported under the hood
in most cases you must actively disable steam input for a given game so that you can get actual features to work. you can also globally disable steam input for dualsense but I would advise against that because there will be games that simply don't support dualsense so you will actually need steam input for them. this is practically why steam input for dualsense is enabled globally by default actually
just fyi
 
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Prodyhig said:
Sony's PC games are always WOKE.

Interestingly, the most praised game by PC gamers is Baldur's Gate 3, which, ironically...

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But you won't hear them mention that the Game of the Year winner is also WOKE.

The hate for Sony is worldwide on forums, dressed in a long gown of hypocrisy.
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Being woke can make a bad game worse, but it can't make a great game bad. BG3 is a fantastic game, woke or not.
 
Wolzard said:
In terms of its public face, it's business as usual at Sony: it's not the one that reported on the cancellation of PlayStation games being ported to PC. However, on the same day it's reliably suggested single player first-party efforts won't appear elsewhere anymore, it's perhaps a little funny to see Sony advertise a new "PC ready" controller bundle.

In reality, this is just a normal black PS5 controller bundled with a USB cable to let you connect it to a computer.

However, select regional PlayStation social media accounts have started advertising it at a price of $74.99. It's a "simple set-up" and offers "unmissable immersion", according to the promotional material.



Of course, any PC game on Steam with controller support offers the ability to use the PS5 controller, so this bundle still has a functional use going forward. If you want to use a PS5 pad on PC, that option will still be available to you despite yesterday's news — you just won't get single player games like Saros or Marvel's Wolverine on the platform anymore.

What will continue to be ported over are Sony's live service efforts, such as Marathon and Fairgames. These titles need a healthy playerbase to stay afloat and bring success, so you'll continue to see them make the jump across to PC. Then, Helldivers 2 proves there's even an avenue to an Xbox Series X|S version for these Games as a Service, too.

It'll also be interesting to see how this decision affects Sony's push into the console and PC accessory market.

Throughout the PS5 generation, the company has released a large range of accessories for both the console and PC audience. There are the Pulse Elevate wireless speakers launching later this year, and also the FlexStrike wireless fight stick. Both accessories can be used on PS5 and PC.

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After Cancelling Most PC Ports, Sony Promotes New 'PC Ready' Controller

It's a PS5 pad and a USB cable
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Sony didn't say they cancelled anything. There's a rumor claiming that, which comes from people who previously made up stuff about Sony. So wouldn't take as a confirmation.

Btw, today Sony released Marathon day one on PC and soon will release the Death Stranding 2 port.
 
Zacfoldor said:
I preferred Destiny 2 on controller over Mouse and Keyboard. That is probably the only shooter like that but I like to play some strange builds in Destiny 2 and that game can have very different gameplay depending on your preferred style. It's also mostly PvE. It also has almost as much platforming as shooting. I would not suggest controller is better at platforming than mouse and keyboard but I certainly haven't found it to be worse. Even gambits felt better on controller after a time.
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I'm kind of curious as to what you mean here as aside from maybe running a sword, I don't see what build would really lend itself to controller. If anything, the top PVE players are all mouse and keyboard whereas in PVP land (which I avoid like the plague that it is), the aim assist is a much bigger deal and you see a lot more controller players.

Back on topic, I've been using Sony controllers on PC for years via USB. Haven't touched or thought about DS4Windows or whatever, and I'd never recommend a Microsoft controller as it's at best the same shit with lower build quality, and it's just not worth it even if you prefer asymmetrical sticks.
 
8bitdo, Flydigi, and Gulikit all make better controllers than any of the big three these days. No idea why people want to pay premiums for companies that have no interest in providing a superior product. As far as the Sony PC port question goes. Has Sony even put out a new game recently? All I hear about are cancellations and remasters.
 
DualSense feels pretty great and its the only Playstation 5 stuff I have. Got it for "free".

Played Death Stranding (PC) with the controller. Its too bad over at Steamlink the DualSense support is kind of half working (no feedback on the trigger buttons).
 
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Moondoggy said:
"Please care about our company, while our company shows it doesn't care about you"

Do yourself a favor if you're on PC and just buy an 8bitdo Ultimate 2 instead, it's cheaper than this Sony controller and it's x-input, so it'll work better as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Gam...7c-8b8d-4102e580068f&pd_rd_i=B0DRCWSX17&psc=1
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ah yes, one of the chief Sony shills here to run interference.

Imagine spending any time and effort defending a corporation that literally cares nothing about you.
 
I meant what I said about not caring one way or the other about Sony stopping with their PC ports lol. I'll buy this controller if it's good, when it comes time to get a new one, but right now it sounds like the DualSense is very fragile, so I'll be sticking with my Dualshock 4.

Idunno how well the Switch 2 controller works on PC, but it'd be nice if I could just switch to that, since I'm getting one anyway.
 
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Moondoggy said:
"Please care about our company, while our company shows it doesn't care about you"

Do yourself a favor if you're on PC and just buy an 8bitdo Ultimate 2 instead, it's cheaper than this Sony controller and it's x-input, so it'll work better as well.

https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Gam...7c-8b8d-4102e580068f&pd_rd_i=B0DRCWSX17&psc=1
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Excellent advice. For an alternative that's half the price I recommend 8bitdo Ultimate 2C:

Amazon.com: 8BitDo Ultimate 2C Wireless Controller for Windows PC and Android, with 1000 Hz Polling Rate, Hall Effect Joysticks and Triggers, and Remappable L4/R4 Bumpers (Green) : Video Games

Amazon.com: 8BitDo Ultimate 2C Wireless Controller for Windows PC and Android, with 1000 Hz Polling Rate, Hall Effect Joysticks and Triggers, and Remappable L4/R4 Bumpers (Green) : Video Games
www.amazon.com

I got one for $25 and it's just as good as my Ultimate 2 and even has 2 extra back buttons.


I still use my PS5 controller mostly though as it's the quietest controller I own.
 
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