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The Hunger Games (Dir. Gary Ross) |OT| May The Odds Be Ever In Your Favor

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f0rk

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It's the kind of bad people try to excuse with 'oh it's a young adult book'.

The first book is the only good one because the attempt at adding more scope to the world in 2/3 is clearly way out of reach of the author set up of the first.
 

JGS

Banned
It's the kind of bad people try to excuse with 'oh it's a young adult book'.

The first book is the only good one because the attempt at adding more scope to the world in 2/3 is clearly way out of reach of the author set up of the first.
they didn't add scope to the world. If anything, the flaw was keeping 1st person.
 

Nlroh

Member
I wouldn't say Martin is a great writer either. I've been stuck on the first half of Storm of Swords for months because I can't stand his self indulgent world building backstory shit that seems to permeate every chapter. The books could be half the size.

I don't think you can compare aSoIaF with the Hunger Games. Suzanne's writing is just plain awful. It's almost like reading a story written by a high school friend. I read the first one and while it was interesting and somewhat entertaining, I can't imagine reading the other two because of the writing. I hope the movie corrects some of the book problems.
 

Koodo

Banned
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Looks like a low budget SyFy production.

This should've been the March movie with the $250 million budget.
 
I wouldn't say Martin is a great writer either. I've been stuck on the first half of Storm of Swords for months because I can't stand his self indulgent world building backstory shit that seems to permeate every chapter. The books could be half the size.

I was far more immersed in the story of ASOIF due to that. It took me a bit, but reading the Hunger Games after finishing the first 5 in that series was really jarring.
 
Ok, so I haven't read the book, nor do I really know the story, but from my understanding there are some pretty brutal things in this correct? Does anyone know yet if the movie shy's away from that, or has butchered the story at all? I'm just curious what the word on the street is.

Anyways, I'm going to see the movie and then pick up the book since I have heard pretty good things. Here's hoping this turns out good.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
If the people faced dogs are out, then I will watch. If not, I am out.

Oops sorry for spoiler, thanks for PMs. I didn't think it was a spoiler because it is so hilariously retarded. But anyway, it was a stupid thing to do.
 
Ok, so I haven't read the book, nor do I really know the story, but from my understanding there are some pretty brutal things in this correct? Does anyone know yet if the movie shy's away from that, or has butchered the story at all? I'm just curious what the word on the street is.

Anyways, I'm going to see the movie and then pick up the book since I have heard pretty good things. Here's hoping this turns out good.

From what I've heard from friends, the book is brutal in the sense that you wouldn't normally see this kind of stuff in a tween book series, but it doesn't really compare to something like Battle Royale in fucked-up-ness.

Nobody knows just how watered down the movie is yet.
 

Koodo

Banned
Ok, so I haven't read the book, nor do I really know the story, but from my understanding there are some pretty brutal things in this correct? Does anyone know yet if the movie shy's away from that, or has butchered the story at all? I'm just curious what the word on the street is.

Anyways, I'm going to see the movie and then pick up the book since I have heard pretty good things. Here's hoping this turns out good.
Nothing in the first book that could seriously be affected by a PG-13 rating. Execution is all that matters, so we won't know until we see the movie.

The third book, however, is an entirely different matter. There are some pretty creative incidents in that one.
 
I was far more immersed in the story of ASOIF due to that. It took me a bit, but reading the Hunger Games after finishing the first 5 in that series was really jarring.
I dunno, like, fantasy is not really my thing but I gave Game of Thrones a shot anyway and fell in love with the characters and the web of betrayals and scheming that led to the last hundred pages of the book was amazing. Most of CoK and what I've read of SoS haven't lived up to that, and what I've heard about AFFC sounds downright infuriating.
 

iammeiam

Member
I hope this movie is good.

Specifically I hope the (massive spoiler)
Rue dying/Katniss doing the flowers and singing to her
scene is at least as good as the one from the fan video that went around a while back, prior to the official casting announcements.

And, yeah, I wouldn't at all mind if they drastically altered the
dog-person-mutant-things
in some way. Something has to fill that role at the end, but I don't see it converting to film without being laughable.

I dunno, like, fantasy is not really my thing but I gave Game of Thrones a shot anyway and fell in love with the characters and the web of betrayals and scheming that led to the last hundred pages of the book was amazing. Most of CoK and what I've read of SoS haven't lived up to that, and what I've heard about AFFC sounds downright infuriating.

SoS gets really, really good around the middle. Politicking and scheming like a son of a bitch. the last half of that book or so are probably the highlight of the series thusfar, IMO.
 
Nope. It only starts getting really fun once they step in the arena, and the trailers didn't show it at all.

This can't be emphasised enough. The trailers only show the duller parts of the book (whilst all together necessary to build a somewhat coherent story).

Makes sense they'd want to keep a lot of that stuff under wraps. But then again, it'd probably help sway some of us who haven't read the book.

Book has GOD AWFUL writing, I have no idea how people made it through that garbage. I'm looking forward to the movie only because I like Gary Ross.

I would tag quote you, but someone already did that, and my roommate seemed to echo your thoughts anyway. I mean, it's young adult, but hopefully it's not intolerable.

All things considered, I probably won't read the book before the movie comes out. I'll watch the movie sometime while it's in theaters. Maybe that'll inspire me to pick up the books. Seems to be a common trend for me.
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Book 1 is fantastic so far, looking forward to the movie.

EDIT: Huh, odd to see people hating on the book and writing. I like it a lot so far. Sure, the writing isn't War & Peace, but this style of writing keeps me reading quickly.
 

zap

Member
I went into them expecting fluff, which is what I got... so I was satisfied. I felt that the first book kinda just ended without the need for the second and third books which felt like they were kinda tacked on (it could have been done a lot better imo).

I think what pissed me off was the viewpoint of the 16 year old girl and the constant whining about how terrible she is. I thought that premise overall was ridiculous.

The capitol hybrid things were so wtf though
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Book 1 is fantastic so far, looking forward to the movie.

EDIT: Huh, odd to see people hating on the book and writing. I like it a lot so far. Sure, the writing isn't War & Peace, but this style of writing keeps me reading quickly.

Some people just can't handle "simple"-styled writing. The books are absolutely fine.
 
Saw the trailer for this during Woman in Black, first few seconds had me thinking it might be kind of cool, like a Never Let Me Go sort of thing. Then Lenny Kravitz' neck and a bunch of youngsters acting serious showed up and I realized it's actually a hilarious comedy.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Saw the trailer for this during Woman in Black, first few seconds had me thinking it might be kind of cool, like a Never Let Me Go sort of thing. Then Lenny Kravitz' neck and a bunch of youngsters acting serious showed up and I realized it's actually a hilarious comedy.

Great impressions, man.
 

f0rk

Member
they didn't add scope to the world. If anything, the flaw was keeping 1st person.

That's what I meant, as someone else said the viewpoint of a whiny 16/17 year old girl in a love triangle gets in the way of an interesting world. The situations in the 3rd book in particular are ridiculous when you consider she's meant to be 17.
 

Miletius

Member
This is a guilty pleasure series of mine, so I'm looking forward to the movie. The 3rd book really falls off a cliff though, so I'm actually hoping they take some creative liberty with that one.

Yes, it's a trashy tween movie/novel series, but it's more fun than the average one, and I think that the author's strong suit is character interaction, so that keeps the books interesting for far longer than your average teen novel.
 

Sloane

Banned
Just read the first book on a 12 hour flight, was surprised to actually like it. Looking forward to the movie now, guess I'll read 2 and 3 after watching it.
 

Zebra

Member
Some people just can't handle "simple"-styled writing. The books are absolutely fine.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with simple writing styles. However, there is good simple, bad simple, and bland simple. The book is bland simple.
 
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Deleted member 8095

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I just finished the first book and I found it enjoyable. The writing isn't anything special and is far too convenient at times but it was still a fun read and I'm looking forward to seeing the movie.
 

effzee

Member
Really good book and I'm not big into Young Adult Literature so I'm hyped for the movie. I really hope it doesn't disappoint but their is a lot of good vibes about it right now. But Midnight showing on that night, you'll find my ass watching The Raid and I'll wait a couple weeks and watch The Hunger Games after all the tweens got their filling.




Why am I even doing this, but
Team Gale!

TEAM PEETA!
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
I understand how someone could say that, but not this:

I dunno man, I'm through 2 books now and I can't comprehend how these books have crossed over to being considered good by non-teenage girls. I find the writing in these to be pretty terrible. Between the myriad sentence fragments and poorly conceived and structured ideas, I see an inability of the author to adequately describe the most basic of elements like character and location descriptions, which has obviously lead to a lot of confusion in readers over the look and feel of the world and characters.

It seems to me (especially noticeable in the second book more than the first) that every character seems to A) have the same voice and B) seems to share a thought process. The author is incapable of assigning separate intelligence to each individual character so Katniss will share inner monologue with the reader and then jump directly into a conversation with other characters and they will all have reached the same far-fetched, boneheaded conclusions about their situations of their own accord. This makes for really maddening reading.
 

JdFoX187

Banned
Have been meaning to read the books ever since the adaptations were announced. Just started the first one today during my spare time at work. Powered through about a quarter of it. Not really a fan of Katniss' voice at all. Seems a little too whiny. The short sentence structure also annoys me to no end. But I'm somewhat intrigued by the universe itself and I'm continuing on. I like the concept, just sort of wish someone with more talent created it with a less annoying main character.
 
I liked the books, but I never fully bought into the world of Panem.

There are some cool ideas in there, but in the end, it all seemed pretty campy and half-baked.
 

JGS

Banned
I dunno man, I'm through 2 books now and I can't comprehend how these books have crossed over to being considered good by non-teenage girls. I find the writing in these to be pretty terrible. Between the myriad sentence fragments and poorly conceived and structured ideas, I see an inability of the author to adequately describe the most basic of elements like character and location descriptions, which has obviously lead to a lot of confusion in readers over the look and feel of the world and characters.

It seems to me (especially noticeable in the second book more than the first) that every character seems to A) have the same voice and B) seems to share a thought process. The author is incapable of assigning separate intelligence to each individual character so Katniss will share inner monologue with the reader and then jump directly into a conversation with other characters and they will all have reached the same far-fetched, boneheaded conclusions about their situations of their own accord. This makes for really maddening reading.
Can't agree with that. The voice of the story is myriad and everyone is assumed to be duplicitous, but for different means - including Katniss. For a book with ridiculous one voice syndrome I recommend Robopocalypse.

There are few times where Katniss even gets, much less agree with, what other people are talking about because she simply is
not interested in the big picture until she is thrust into it
. That is extremely apparent in the 2nd and 3rd books.

I think the 1st person throws people off because it is from the view of a teenage girl that has been given way too much responsibility which keeps her confused with her hormones. Honestly, I think the author nails that. It just may not be a voice everyone is interested in listening to. Ideally,
I would have liked the 1st book to stay 1st person, but change perspective as the battle grows and Katniss becomes more of an inspiration. She could have even been martyred in the first one.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Can't agree with that. The voice of the story is myriad and everyone is assumed to be duplicitous, but for different means - including Katniss. For a book with ridiculous one voice syndrome I recommend Robopocalypse.

There are few times where Katniss even gets, much less agree with, what other people are talking about because she simply is
not interested in the big picture until she is thrust into it
. That is extremely apparent in the 2nd and 3rd books.

I think the 1st person throws people off because it is from the view of a teenage girl that has been given way too much responsibility which keeps her confused with her hormones. Honestly, I think the author nails that. It just may not be a voice everyone is interested in listening to. Ideally,
I would have liked the 1st book to stay 1st person, but change perspective as the battle grows and Katniss becomes more of an inspiration. She could have even been martyred in the first one.

Maybe that could've
made the third book a bit better, but I think the second is definitely better in first person. I think the way everyone acts out in the arena with the escape in mind without her knowing is awesome.
 

JGS

Banned
Maybe that could've
made the third book a bit better, but I think the second is definitely better in first person. I think the way everyone acts out in the arena with the escape in mind without her knowing is awesome.
Yeah, the second book would need to have some parts that way.
My problem with it is that the setup was obvious almost immediately upon returning to the Capital but we were forced to see Katniss struggling with it the whole time. If one is not interested in Katniss, then the story's flaws are more obvious even as we enjoy the action of the Games & the setting of the Capital.
 

Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Yeah, the second book would need to have some parts that way.
My problem with it is that the setup was obvious almost immediately upon returning to the Capital but we were forced to see Katniss struggling with it the whole time. If one is not interested in Katniss, then the story's flaws are more obvious even as we enjoy the action of the Games & the setting of the Capital.

Plutarch made it obvious with his clock, yeah, but I still enjoyed finding out exactly how things panned out.
But then again I had no problems whatsoever with Katniss.

I don´t know anything about the book, but i read it´s like Twilight. Is that true?

No.
 

JGS

Banned
Plutarch made it obvious with his clock, yeah, but I still enjoyed finding out exactly how things panned out.
But then again I had no problems whatsoever with Katniss.
I like Katniss quite a bit too but I get the love/hate thing for her. When the writer spends a lot of time on the main character (Shock lol) and you may not empathize with her, it creates a new flaw of not explaining the parts of the book you do like enough.
 
I don't look forward to them PG-13-ing the hell out of Mockingjay (and the "final book is two movies" trend), although I found that book okay.

Looking forward to this though, but especially looking forward to Catching Fire.
 
I don´t know anything about the book, but i read online that it´s like Twilight. Is that true?

Here are the similarities between Hunger Games and Twilight:

1) Both are book series aimed at teens.
2) Both series were written by women.
3) Both series feature a female protagonist.
4) Both series are very, very popular.

And um, that's about it. Well, many would say that both feature a love triangle that dominates the story, but to me the relationship thing in Hunger Games was never that major. It just seemed blown out of proportion to get more attention.

Outside of that, there is no similarity between the two.
 

LQX

Member
Read the books and I'm too also kind of shocked they're so popular. It got so dumb and melodramatic at times I'm still not sure how I manage to finish all books.

And the fact a good portion of the first book is dedicated to kissing(which the author seems to think drives the story), yes kissing, should tell you who this book is for. And why are people so excited to see kids kiss?
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
There are few times where Katniss even gets, much less agree with, what other people are talking about because she simply is
not interested in the big picture until she is thrust into it
. That is extremely apparent in the 2nd and 3rd books.

I'm talking about stuff like
"Because the Capitol is reusing footage of the District 13 ruins there just MUST be a group of people living underground!
It's dumb leaps of logic like that that ALWAYS pan out to be true that piss me off. That particular dumb leap of logic fuels
the entire, nation-wide resistance movement!
Also every single time she figures that someone MUST be dead, 100% of the time they will still be alive. Without fail.

Ooh, I just thought of another good one. (CF)
before the Quarter Quell when all 24 of the participants join hands "in solidarity and defiance"
Really?! They all happened to have this same idea at the same time including all potential ramifications it could have for their situation?? Yeah right... Gimme a break with these stupid books.
 
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