7 and 10...wtf?!
Only the remake is easy. It got extra simplified.
I was 8 years old(1995) when my classmate in 3rd grade first introduced me to FF6. We thought FF6 was so cool how it let you have "multiplayer". We would debate all the time on who got to rent the game at the local video store that weekend(our town only had 1 friggen copy). We liked CT, but it just wasn't as good in our eyes as FF6 was.They were released a whole year apart though.
My memories of the reception at the time: FF6, unrivaled masterpiece. Chrono Trigger, great, but a little too short. I even remember Nick Rox calling Chrono Trigger "disappointing" in a Bahamut Lagoon preview. CT's reputation kept growing though until it achieved master class status a few years later.
That's the way it was in my circle of friends at least, other people have told me their experiences were different. That Gamefan thing is definitely 100% true though!
Panzer Dragoon Saga is pretty hard to get hold of.WTF is this shit!
Panzer Dragoon Saga is not anywhere to be found in the entire list!
are you kidding me?
The fuck is FFIV doing up there? lol
Also, Skyrim. Yeah right.
I disagree with that. IV has a very devoted following and was a breakthrough RPG in the west at the time.FF4 is not even brought up when people discuss what the best FFs are. And I feel like they crammed in those WRPGs in Top 10 just for the sake of having WRPGs on there.
FF4 is not even brought up when people discuss what the best FFs are. And I feel like they crammed in those WRPGs in Top 10 just for the sake of having WRPGs on there.
The main point I try to make is that the list of top 10 RPGs should probably come from this console generation and last generation. Before that, consoles were incapable of making gameplay that is even remotely compelling by today's standards. At least not as anything other than XBLA games and the like. I'm sure some of you will disagree with that, and a few of you may actually feel what you purport to feel, but most of you don't play old RPGs because....they suck.
The main point I try to make is that the list of top 10 RPGs should probably come from this console generation and last generation. Before that, consoles were incapable of making gameplay that is even remotely compelling by today's standards. At least not as anything other than XBLA games and the like. I'm sure some of you will disagree with that, and a few of you may actually feel what you purport to feel, but most of you don't play old RPGs because....they suck.
Btw, didn't know FF4 had such a following but still, discussions are dominated by FF6-FF10 and everything inbetween.
http://uk.ign.com/top/rpgs
100 - Ys Book I & II
99 - Lunar: Eternal Blue
98 - Shadow Hearts: Covenant
97 - Final Fantasy VIII
96 - Phantasy Star
95 - The Legend of Dragoon
94 - Vagrant Story
93 - Tales of Phatansia
92 - Diablo III
91 - Fable II
90 - Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
89 - Fallout: New Vegas
88 - Final Fantasy IX
87 - Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals
86 - Shadowrun
85 - Breath of Fire III
84 - Kingdom Hearts
83 - Fire Emblem
82 - Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven
81 - Dragon Warrior VII
80 - Dungeon Master
79 - Icewind Dale 2
78 - The Witcher 2
77 - Tales of Symphonia
76 - Illusion of Gaia
75 - Front Mission 3
74 - Wizardry 8
73 - Final Fantasy
72 - Grandia 2
71 - The Bard's Tale
70 - Demon's Souls
69 - Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
68 - Kingdom Hearts 2
67 - Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
66 - Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
65 - Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
64 - Final Fantasy X
63 - Skies of Arcadia
62 - The World Ends With You
61 - Chrono Cross
60 - EVE Online
59 - Phantasy Star IV
58 - Freedom Force
57 - Mass Effect 2
56 - Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
55 - Monster Hunter Tri
54 - Neverwinter Nights 2
53 - Ultima VII
52 - Odin Sphere
51 - Wild Arms
50 - Golden Sun
49 - Dragon Quest V
48 - Tales of Destiny
47 - Xenogears
46 - Pool of Radiance
45 - Disgaea
44 - Suikoden II
43 - Valkyria Chronicles
42 - Lunar: Silver Star Story
41 - Xenoblade Chronicles
40 - Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen
39 - Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss
38 - Phantasy Star II
37 - Guild Wars
36 - Shining Force II
35 - Pokemon Black/White
34 - Fallout
33 - Ultima Online
32 - The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind
31 - Neverwinter Nights
30 - Jade Empire
29 - Dragon Warrior
28 - Fallout 2
27 - Dragon Quest VIII
26 - Ultima IV
25 - Deus Ex
24 - Baldur's Gate
23 - Phantasy Star Online
22 - Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
21 - Super Mario RPG
20 - Everquest
19 - System Shock 2
18 - Dark Souls
17 - Earthbound
16 - Diablo
15 - Secret of Mana
14 - Final Fantasy Tactics
13 - Planescape Torment
12 - Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
11 - Final Fantasy VII
10 - Fallout 3
9 - Mass Effect 1
8 - World of Warcraft
7 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
6 - Diablo 2
5 - Final Fantasy IV
4 - Pokemon Red/Blue
3 - Baldur's Gate 2
2 - Chrono Trigger
1 - Final Fantasy VI
88 - Final Fantasy IX
Some notable omissions:
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Radiant Historia
Dragon Quest 3 & 4
Anything from the Quest for Glory series
World of Warcraft should easily be top 3. There probably is no other game at all more widely appreciated and played than it so consistently and by so many. Hate on it all you want, but it is fun before you hit 300 days played and its sales and activity prove it.
I don't think any of those FF games should be top 10 (or even 50). FF games do not stand the test of time particularly well. Their mechanics are simple and boring. People play them and still say they are best due to two factors: nostalgia and hype. There are other games which are far better designed and far more fun than them. They just happen to be a part of a long list of copycats that at some point become more of the same and not as special. There's simply no way that the games of olde could stand up to today's gameplay mechanics. There's a reason no one produces big budget 2d RPGs anymore. It's because those games aren't better than what we have today.
The main point I try to make is that the list of top 10 RPGs should probably come from this console generation and last generation. Before that, consoles were incapable of making gameplay that is even remotely compelling by today's standards. At least not as anything other than XBLA games and the like. I'm sure some of you will disagree with that, and a few of you may actually feel what you purport to feel, but most of you don't play old RPGs because....they suck.
yeah Look at my avatar" assume I am going to get mad with such comment" yeah Chrono Tigger still overrated it.. well played...Its not nearly overrated as Xenoblade is, probably due in part to the "i have it and you dont!" effect of that game's localization
Chrono Trigger really wasnt that popular at release anyway
World of Warcraft should easily be top 3. There probably is no other game at all more widely appreciated and played than it so consistently and by so many. Hate on it all you want, but it is fun before you hit 300 days played and its sales and activity prove it.
I don't think any of those FF games should be top 10 (or even 50). FF games do not stand the test of time particularly well. Their mechanics are simple and boring. People play them and still say they are best due to two factors: nostalgia and hype. There are other games which are far better designed and far more fun than them. They just happen to be a part of a long list of copycats that at some point become more of the same and not as special. There's simply no way that the games of olde could stand up to today's gameplay mechanics. There's a reason no one produces big budget 2d RPGs anymore. It's because those games aren't better than what we have today.
The main point I try to make is that the list of top 10 RPGs should probably come from this console generation and last generation. Before that, consoles were incapable of making gameplay that is even remotely compelling by today's standards. At least not as anything other than XBLA games and the like. I'm sure some of you will disagree with that, and a few of you may actually feel what you purport to feel, but most of you don't play old RPGs because....they suck.
1 - Final Fantasy VI
The main point I try to make is that the list of top 10 RPGs should probably come from this console generation and last generation. Before that, consoles were incapable of making gameplay that is even remotely compelling by today's standards. At least not as anything other than XBLA games and the like. I'm sure some of you will disagree with that, and a few of you may actually feel what you purport to feel, but most of you don't play old RPGs because....they suck.
Now people can't say the FF7 is the better FF
My mouth tastes like vomit.34 - Fallout
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28 - Fallout 2
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10 - Fallout 3
World of Warcraft should easily be top 3. There probably is no other game at all more widely appreciated and played than it so consistently and by so many. Hate on it all you want, but it is fun before you hit 300 days played and its sales and activity prove it.
I don't think any of those FF games should be top 10 (or even 50). FF games do not stand the test of time particularly well. Their mechanics are simple and boring. People play them and still say they are best due to two factors: nostalgia and hype. There are other games which are far better designed and far more fun than them. They just happen to be a part of a long list of copycats that at some point become more of the same and not as special. There's simply no way that the games of olde could stand up to today's gameplay mechanics. There's a reason no one produces big budget 2d RPGs anymore. It's because those games aren't better than what we have today.
The main point I try to make is that the list of top 10 RPGs should probably come from this console generation and last generation. Before that, consoles were incapable of making gameplay that is even remotely compelling by today's standards. At least not as anything other than XBLA games and the like. I'm sure some of you will disagree with that, and a few of you may actually feel what you purport to feel, but most of you don't play old RPGs because....they suck.
pokemon red/blue in top 5
everything is ok
Is this list based on how good the game is? or the impact a game had regardless of how it stands currently because if it's the first other pokemon games have already outclassed them.
10 - Fallout 3
9 - Mass Effect 1
8 - World of Warcraft
7 - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
6 - Diablo 2
5 - Final Fantasy IV
4 - Pokemon Red/Blue
3 - Baldur's Gate 2
2 - Chrono Trigger
1 - Final Fantasy VI
It may seem a little dull by today's standards because its active time battle system was mimicked so much but it's still a decent game.FFIV in top five?
but that game is poo