Krusenstern
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So can publishers force this kind of stuff on Sonys console? I mean that they say that they won't release games if it doesn't offer the same or similar options
Where/when did they say that?
So can publishers force this kind of stuff on Sonys console? I mean that they say that they won't release games if it doesn't offer the same or similar options
I have to assume 'family members' are accounts linked to the home console, and there will be restrictions on how you can change that. Otherwise people would be trying to get around all the other borrowing restrictions.
The thing is, PS3 right now allows individual publishers to decide what DRM they want to use. PS4 will be exactly the same. Sure, some will do it, but that just gives the consumers the ability to deny publishers sales at the game-by-game basis, which is a highly effective way of sending a message.
With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies
It's better, but it's still bad.
Fuck Microsoft for this, and fuck anyone who supports them. This is absolutely atrocious.
Ugh.
This hurts me the most. I gamefly. I loan, and I sell on ebay or half.com.
No they didn't.
The policy was that you can install the game (digital copy) on up to 5 systems at a time.
It was twisted around by gamers, who figured out that 5 systems could mean 5 different gamers.
Sony got wind of it, and then they shrugged and said, "Eh, sure, why not."
Then I think later on, they changed the policy? I have no idea what the policy is now. But officially, it only meant 5 installs (and it was suppose to be your own systems).
Maybe things will get better with one less console for us to pay attention to.Wow. The games industry is actively pushing for a crash now.
What ever happened to:
- Turn Console on
- Play a fuppin game
- Turn Console off
its all.the same like 5 people that have been damage controlling on gaf since the reveal. keep seeing their avatars.
. If me and my brother can share our games easily even when we are in different parts of the US then it will be awesome.
It's so cute how you give microsoft the benefit of the doubt when they have dropped a flaming turd on your doorstep.of course you can buy used games
But the PC platform still offers disc-based games. Its just that Steam is more orientated around DD. I still have trouble seeing the difference, because both consoles are transitioning to DD, what with the whole "buy it online and play instantly".It's because if people want to get physical boxes, they can't resell or lend without restrictions. Steam is DD only platform so that's expected.
This is possibly the most reprehensible product in gaming history, and I won't claim to not view with some contempt anyone who buys one. For the sake of consumers, I hope to god that the #PS4NoDRM campaign actually accomplished something.
I guess I'm pretty dumb - why is anyone bothering comparing this to Steam? Did I miss the part where Microsoft said they'll be having huge sales?
Jaffe's already coming up with strategies:
This sounds fine. Reasonable and if the family stuff is true nice silver lining. Interested to see what the cloud saved games mean. They make it sound like redownloading them is not required if so that is baller.
Why are people getting so knotted up about this? It is basically Steam but with stricter online requirements (24 hour check) and the ability to actually trade your games. We've been doing this for years now, welcome to the digital age people.
It's not clear at all. The OP says "Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time", which isn't true. It's not "Up to", its only one of a any time. Also, people in this thread are wondering whether it means all 10 at the same time.
So no, it's not clear.
As we move into this new generation of games and entertainment, from time to time, Microsoft may change its policies, terms, products and services to reflect modifications and improvements to our services, feedback from customers and our business partners or changes in our business priorities and business models or for other reasons. We may also cease to offer certain services or products for similar reasons.
I like the family shit. Now me and my son don't have to buy two copies of CoD to play online. Good shit.
Also, hooray to day one DD. Will never buy another disc.
Umm, this sounds pretty amazing to me.
This right here is how I will let people borrow my games, only it sounds to me like I'll also be able to play my own games at the same exact time as up to 10 of my friends and family are. This is fucking amazing, if true. Microsoft needs to be asked about this for clarification pronto!!!
My biggest concern about used games (which I don't buy) was being able to let friends or family borrow and play my games, and it sounds like that's completely addressed with this system. I'm a happy camper. There is only a restriction if you plan on giving someone your physical game disc. They have to be on your friends list for at least 30 days, and each game disc can only be given once. Microsoft also needs to be asked about this specific part here. Are they saying that they original giver of the game disc can not receive the game disc back from the friend they gave it to? Or are they saying that the original owner can only ever give their physical game disc to one person ever, but that the original giver of the game disc should also be able to receive that game disc back and have it work with no issues?
Sharing games with up to 10 people?
That's sensational. So good.
Yes but are you likely to know that at the point of sales. The game is hardly likely to have a sticker on it saying 'used games allowed'.
Let him dream that shit won't fly here in the eu.The thought of being stuck with a shitty/disappointing game for 3 months and getting less value back from it... gawt dayum! This would hurt sales, not benefit them.
I don't understand why people are saying this is "Not as bad as I had thought"
What did you think then? This is everything we've known, just confirmed.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED
Where's Amirox when you need him!