Mr.Marston
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Vita must have a pretty good attach rate.
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Media Create Sales: Week 26, 2013 (Jun 24 - Jun 30)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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We will have the results on the 17th. If it makes 30k it will be above my expectations so far, so I would call it impressive.
But, yes... I know what you mean...
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Vita means life
Pikmin 3 is out in about 10 days in Japan. The new White premium is being advertised at its current price- there is no price drop coming for Japan to accompany Pikmin 3.
djplaeskool
Member
Good shit Toukiden.
Did not expect those sort of numbers.
Can't wait for God Eater 2.
Did not expect those sort of numbers.
Can't wait for God Eater 2.
I'm sure it did well enough for them to try this with a completely new game, as long as they include the classic mode. If they land on their feet that is.
michaelius
Banned
If it get's to 30k on Pikmin then that sure would be impressive.
It is also the white premium, the retail version of NSL U, and the Nintendoland+Wii remote set.
If it cannot manage at least 30K from all that....
And it turns out the effort to broaden the appeal of Etrian Odyssey nets them the exact same audience who keeps buying Etrian Odyssey. Lol.
metalslimer
Member
Not really....I think people are forgetting how easy it is to jump up that high when there are no games for a while. Vita did it off the back of Persona 4 Golden. I think with all that's out that week not managing 30k would be disastrous it certainly wouldn't be impressive. If it doesn't manage 20k than the system is truly dead. There isn't a price drop coming in Japan likely anytime in the next year or two. At best their will be an SKU swap, but it's not going to 20,000 yen.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Why wouldn't they? Why would they advertise the inferior PSP version? Why wouldn't Sony push the biggest vita game thus far (despite it being multiplatform)?
shinra-bansho
Member
I would say people are "impressed" more because no one expected a large hardware rise nor the game itself to do this well.
Expectations, and outcomes exceeding them greatly, make for impressed reaction.
Pikmin is expected to raise the Wii U by at least as much. The feat may be ultimately be less impressive though given that weight of expectation.
Expectations, and outcomes exceeding them greatly, make for impressed reaction.
Pikmin is expected to raise the Wii U by at least as much. The feat may be ultimately be less impressive though given that weight of expectation.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Sure, but will NAMCO stay idle and do nothing about the PSP version? They still make a lot of money on PSP.
34/40.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
How did Vita version of Toukiden sell more than PSP?
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Probably. Hopefully they do something more with Surge Concerto in the future.
Perhaps the genre is simply too niche for such attempts to matter.
All charts launch-aligned. All data from Famitsu.
Weekly numbers presented in logarithmic base 1,000 for clarity. In that case, zero units are represented by one unit.
That WiiU barely ahead the PS3... And it started much better...
djplaeskool
Member
There was some vocal disappointment with the first demo. KT went back, made a bunch of changes and refinements, and returned with an improved one. The second demo gained a lot of good will with the hunting action crowd.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Why did everything get a bump this week? That's really odd.
That's a great hold for TLOU, all things considered.
AND it's being advertised. I think 30K+ for WiiU that week is a given. The bump this week bodes well for it too.
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08./01. [PS3] The Last of Us <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.06.20} (¥5.980) - 32.472 / 149.938 (-72%)
11./02. [PS3] Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception # <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2011.11.02} (¥5.980) - 16.150 / 141.139 (-87%)That's a great hold for TLOU, all things considered.
AND it's being advertised. I think 30K+ for WiiU that week is a given. The bump this week bodes well for it too.
It's better?
Koei still released a demo for PSP and included psp footage in the trailers. Crossplay between PSP and Vita was a big selling point metioned in the trailers.
metalslimer
Member
Well unless the system is completely dead and Pikmin does nothing along with what comes out in July+Aug+September, it shouldn't cross streams with Vita. It would be hilarious if it did though.
The economy / market as a whole might have something to do with that as well. Not that the Wii U's position isn't awful.
It's interesting you say that as Starry Sky sold more on PSP than 3DS so there's still some moving on to do.
Edit: I might be losing my mind as I'm not sure I'm comparing the same two Starry Sky titles.
And amazing that Kuma Tomo is a minor success for Namco Bandai.
July is gonna be one interesting month.
Nice bump for Vita. Toukiden Did really well and did nearly twice as much on Vita compared to the PSP version.
It will need games if it they want to prevent it from go back to 10K-13K. What's the release schedule for the Vita?
The big thing I see is the number of PSP software releases, but no significant hardware bump. Its time is over it seems.
It will need games if it they want to prevent it from go back to 10K-13K. What's the release schedule for the Vita?
The big thing I see is the number of PSP software releases, but no significant hardware bump. Its time is over it seems.
fabricated backlash
Member
It's almost as if people would buy a console that has great and/or desirable games for it. Great to see the Vita itself does have a market after all... a shame that Sony isn't more active in supporting it with steady high profile releases. The market is there, and the more dedicated handhelds sell, the more we'll get developer support. The Vita improving ultimately also benefits Nintendo.
Nintendo will hopefully be able to get the WiiU out of this ditch. The home console market in Japan looks bad enough as it is with only Sony selling right now.
I thin the PSP might have another good holiday, but after that it might be over for it in Japan.
Nintendo will hopefully be able to get the WiiU out of this ditch. The home console market in Japan looks bad enough as it is with only Sony selling right now.
I thin the PSP might have another good holiday, but after that it might be over for it in Japan.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Do you honestly think that anyone who is interested in god eater 2 doesn't know that it's coming to PSP? Vita seems like the right choice anyway when you consider that's where God eater 2 burst/God eater 3 will be.
I don't think that's the case for the WiiU as software is a huge part of the problem, with barely any releases and near non-existent 3rd party support.
It's too early to tell. After the same amount of time on the market, the PSP had just over 3.5M sales, and now it's on the verge of breaking the 20M sales mark. The Vita could still make a turnaround. Maybe not to the heights of the PSP, but higher than 6M LTD for sure.
The system just needs more compelling software.
Yes. Also I believe the lack of PS4 and Xbox180(lol) this holiday in Japan will be beneficial to some point to the WIi U.
Exactly. It does matter.
Would a new audience run out and buy the game week one?
Time will tell
that it is probably the same audience
Hellraider
Member
Garaph's numbers.
Considering how huge GE turned out to be, Toukiden's first week looks pretty damn good.Of course legs won't be anywhere as close but it's pretty safe to assume it's already a mild success.
God Eater 2 will be a great indicator as to where the whole genre will be heading with vita as it's home.I am extremely more optimistic than I was before today's numbers, but this doesn't say much since I was almost sure GE:2 would have been sent out to die.
It needs huge games. Sony clearly has little interest in providing on that front. 3rd parties seem to have found their niche, but I'm skeptical we will see any mega exclusives given the paltry userbase.
Best case scenario for Vita owners is continued multi platform support from companies like TecmoKoei and NamcoBandai.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
WiiU sales climbed because of a new mediablitz from Nintendo.
Any chance of a God Eater 2 vita SKU or would they have announced one by now if it was coming?
Then again I don't know the release date for GE2.
I don't really see how the Vita has found a market. It has found a market that will buy a Vita when games come out. This has been true for pretty much every week the Vita has software releases, especially with games that are middle to high profile. But this is a market any piece of hardware should have unless it is pretty much dead (PSP).
You want to compare it with Famitsu numbers since Garaph uses Famitsu numbers.
You want to compare it with Famitsu numbers since Garaph uses Famitsu numbers.
The PS3's early support wasn't so hot either. From what I'm aware of, only Dynasty Warriors Gundam had broken 100K at the same point.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
That one game coming early 2014 should be a huge game.
metalslimer
Member
And where exactly is this compelling software coming from? Many studios don't even want to support the 3DS. The lack of any kind of western presence whatsoever means anything they do is basically limited to appeal to Japan. We're seeing studios invest much more in mobile. At this point Sony still had huge games on the horizon for Vita like FF7 Crisis Core. For all we know Wii U could do 15 million units, but come on we know that's not likely.
Ah, I see.
While I don't think it will really help sales, one interesting trend we're also seeing is an increase in the number of smartphone games showing up on the system.
I imagine the port is relatively easy given the Vita basically runs on smartphone parts.
MasterSheen
Member
Pretty good week.