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NPD Sales Results for August 2013 [Up2: Tons of Nintendo Software]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Now I've seen everything :-DPokemon limited edition 3DS XLs.
wii u and vita sales are actually very steady. there haven't been sharp declines for either. i think the price drop and new bundle will help the wii u a lot, especially if it's accompanied by a new commercial. every game will need to be advertised. sonic, mario, mario and sonic, wii party, wii fit, donkey kong: they can't afford to send any of these to die. if they do this, i think they can build some sort of home for themselves in the us. it's going to be rough from now on, regardless, but i would be surprised if things actually decline from here on out.
chris100185
Neo Member
People always are down on the GC, but despite it being in last place in sales numbers it was still a very profitable system for them, even more so when you compare it to the XBox which was slightly higher in sales numbers but ended up not turning much of a profit if any.
NullPointer
Member
*Really good*. Old school stealth sandbox missions, solid campaign variety, and all that stuff about three different ways to play (assault, panther, ghost) wasn't bullshit, amazingly enough.
Check out the OT and you'll see plenty of pleasantly surprised Gaffers, many of which are hopeful for even more as DLC.
DLC... *sniff*
Is this the kind of thing that'd be worthwhile to re-release on next gen? Is that a practical option?
And amen to that. But as I said, other devices can be used for gaming. Which is why I think Nintendo wants their consoles to offer things other devices don't do, whether it's the dual screens, the 3D, the Wii remote, the dual screen home console gaming (look at Nintendoland and Wii Party U for instance, there are things done in those games that can't be done on other devices), etc. So they want to compete against other devices that can play games by offering features that can't be found on those other devices, along with excellent games (and some that can use the unique hardware features too). But that mantra rings true, and the performance of the 3DS is owed first and foremost to the fantastic games that it has.
NobleGreenBeast
Member
So even with the price cut, Vita managed to sell less than 30k?
Visualante2
Member
I am wondering if they will even break 100k in a single month with the WiiU. A game like Pikmin 3 releases and the best we can say is at least it's steady.
A price cut isn't gonna triple sales.
as much as i think sales will improve with a new bundle and the price drop... that sounds like crazy talk. i expect 60k tops.
I don't think that will have a major long term effect. There have been tons of price drops already by retailers that amounted to nothing. At best I'm thinking it will sell 50k or 60k in September which isn't really "good". It will definitely start picking up these months coming up due to the usual fall/winter holidays and sales, but I don't think it'll be a turn around point for the system. Maybe if Mario Kart released this year it'd be better, but just DKC and 3D Mario alone is pretty sketchy especially considering how they don't really scream impressive.
Heck, it's more than I expected.
Karsticles
Member
No Dragon's Crown? :-(
KillerTravis
Banned
26k Vita version, less than 60k for PS3 version via Creamsugar.
If it can't during December...
Warm Machine
Member
Honestly, I think GTAV is going to suck all of the money out of the industry for a full month and propel PS3 and 360 upwards. I don't think the WiiU bundle has a chance against that.
DR2K
Banned
86k retail for both systems
mugurumakensei
Member
I need SMT IV LTD comparison's to SMT III LTD.
CouldBeWorse
Member
Steadily horrible.
I don't see how a 10-year-old port and a minor price cut will help. Especially since the Wii U has been sold at a defacto price of $300 with the widespread coupons over the past few months.
It will surely see a bump, maybe even doubling to 60k, but that's still HORRIBLE!
George Claw M.D.
Member
NobleGreenBeast
Member
Yeah i guess. I remember in Japan it saw much bigger increase after the price cut. I may be wrong though.
pieatorium
Member
the fact they announced the cut so early might completely kill sales up to the end of the month too so it will be hard to predict next month imo
WW has been shown to be much, much more than a 10 year old port.
The WiiU's sales are low enough that even the small number of people who would buy a system for Wind Waker HD are probably enough to make a noticeable bump.
Petrae
Member
Not gonna happen.
X360/PS3 likely rise in September, even marginally so, thanks to GTA V. Versus an HD remake in Zelda and a highly niche title in TW101, I don't see WiiU making a 70,000+ unit surge.
Will WiiU sales fare better than 30,000? Probably. More than 50,000? Possibly. 100,000? If that happens, I'm taking Marisa Tomei up on that date offer.
Bald Cleft
Banned
So PS3 is about 60K?
pieatorium
Member
japan had a bunch of games out for a few weeks afterwards.
opticalmace
Member
70k based off of the guy using ImageJ.
72k~
I thought the whole argument was that Wii U Nintendo people don't buy hardcore games, as shown by performances like Splinter Cell.
So people who are waiting for WW Zelda won't be affected by GTA right?
Unfortunately I think the market is already reacting to that contraction.
Number of core games and mega productions will decline this gen, while indie productions will rise.
Btw Vita and Wii U are basically done. Pikmin did nothing for Wii U sales (a Nintendo first party title), Vita's price cut while almost doubled sales wasn't even enough to let the system outsell the terrible Wii U sales for a month. People are just not interested in those products.
In what ways?
Do we have any data for SMT4 yet?
coupons don't get advertising campaigns. saving $50 off a $350 thing isn't the same as simply buying a $300 thing either. i also didn't know that the wii u had been discounted by $50 in the us very regularly (honestly haven't kept up).
getting the 2 in front of the 99 is important. it's psychological thing. you start spending $3xx and you're well on your way to $500. you spend $2xx on anything and there's a better chance you won't spend less than half a grand.
having the remake of the wind waker also affords them the opportunity to show an added value to the system. it's not just that the wii u is getting a decent drop- it's getting a decent price drop and you can get a new game for it. it would be different if they just cut the price down with no additional software incentive. it would have been more difficult to advertise better price + game that's been out a year versus better price + brand new thing.
60k would still be horrible, but it would be a start on improving things. the market right now isn't very great in general, but at this point it's not about beating whatever console, but forming its own faithful userbase. the vita was able to do that in japan. the wii u might be able to do that in the us.
mugurumakensei
Member
This is from july npd. smt4 65k~70k
Jaded Alyx
Member
People said this about GTAIV...what actually happened was PS3/360 selling less than the previous month.
(The Wii of course skyrocketed to over 700k that month thanks to MKWii.)
prag16
Banned
You kidding??? December it'll sell far more than that even if it bombs horribly (relatively speaking).
Sounds about right. Might have a shot at PS3 under ideal circumstances but not 360.
gameplay enhancements
new lighting effects
graphical upgrades..(bloom)
it is much more than a port
NullPointer
Member
chris100185
Neo Member
http://www.ign.com/wikis/the-legend-of-zelda-wind-waker/HD_Screenshot_Comparison
It's also running in 1080P at 60FPS
There have also been gameplay changes the most notable of which is significantly shortening the triforce hunting towards the end of the game.
Jaded Alyx
Member
It's 30fps.
The price cut was in effect less than a week, and practically no games of note came to it. Dragon's Crown, but that's niche, and Walking Dead, but that has already been on other platforms forever. I'm surprised it even did ~30k honestly.
Yeah. The one advantage the Vita seems to have is a dedicated fanbase, so software sales aren't as godawful as you'd expect considering how poorly the system is selling. The WiiU doesn't appear to have a shot at tackling that problem, at least not when it comes to most 3rd party software.
Nope, September sales on a yearly basis are usually the highest since March, and just above June.
In this case that'd be about 150k for 360 and 115k for PS3.
smt iv ltd > smt iii ltd
perhaps, but we're looking at monthly sales. this effect is far more noticeable in japanese sales threads where we see things on a weekly basis. the only danger in people holding off on making a purchase would be if they decided not to purchase the thing they were holding off and waiting for. i'm not sure how likely that is.
I didn't say there was a decline in sales, but rather a decline in the chance there will be some PS3 or 3DS-esque turn around. On the sales end, both Wii U and Vita have been steadily selling at a horrible rate. I'm hoping they can turn it around as a Nintendo fan but each month that goes by it becomes more and more clear that this will be a bad situation this generation and it's not just a launch period situation.
I'm just hoping we get some crazy new games from Nintendo once they realize that sending out similar sequels isn't going to turn around the console (assuming this holiday doesn't change things).
Perspective is key in this sort of situation. The GameCube lost Nintendo a lot of relevancy in the industry and tons of market share. If it weren't for the cultural phenomenon the Wii created they might be in an even worse situation. The Xbox on the other hand was just a way for MS to get into the living room. It may not have made money but they accomplished their goal and set up a userbase for their next console.
True. I'm curious how Killzone: Mercenary will wind up doing.