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NPD Sales Results for September 2013 [Up2: Console positioning, 360 estimate]

Into

Member
Love the analogy. Phil Harrison == Russo?


Oh yeah, he just needs that beard and cut a promo at E3 next year, but only bring up shit people on the internet know about.

MS did go heel this year, and man, what a heel! Mr. McMahon 1997 after the screwjob type heat.
 

AniHawk

Member
Double a number is 200% of the original value, or an increase of 100%.

if you say sales are up 50%, that means you take half of what you did and add to it.

so sales of 6 were up 50%, now sales are 9 (multiply by 1.5)

sales of 6 were up 100%, now sales are 12 (multiply by 2)

sales of 6 were up 200%, now sales are 18 (multiply by 3)
 

chadboban

Member
Killzone is a franchise that when given a big marketing budget has struggled. Killzone: Mercenary did not receive any real marketing in North America, nor does it have a bundle available. Clearly SCEA has checked out with Vita.

Man that's sad. I don't own one but I have a friend that does. It's a great device. Sure most of it's lineup might not really appeal to me but it deserves better sales than what it's getting now, especially with it's price cut.
 

Ridley327

Member
Hmmm...I'm starting to wonder.

62K or 93K.
Well, if it was 93K, shouldn't WW have charted? Pikmin did. That's what I was wondering.

WWHD had only two days of sales at retail. NPD isn't going to count the digital copies that were sold with the hardware bundle.
 
Does anyone have the original PR? From either NPD or Nintendo?

that average has been a consistent 7-8k a week for many months though, and there's no reason to expect the first few weeks of september for that average to have improved. to increase the average by the amount it did, post-drop numbers were comparatively massive.
Fully aware of that. Just a very gross comparison - I didn't break down the other price drop increases into the number of days on the market either, e.g. the Aug->Sept for PS3 Slim, the SKU actually released at the very end of Aug reporting iirc.
 

Brashnir

Member
You think liking something is pathetic?

You must be a real laugh riot to be around.

Liking something and being "more than a little" invested emotionally in a product are vastly different things. You trying to reduce one to the other is a pretty poor attempt at false equivalence, which is also pretty pathetic.
 

Menaged

Member
Unless it sells really well in Japan, which I have no idea if it did, there is very little chance mainland Europe makes up the difference from the US and UK sales.

IIRC France alone closed the UK gap, and in Japan it sold around 330k.
With that said, who knows...
 

Branduil

Member
if you say sales are up 50%, that means you take half of what you did and add to it.

so sales of 6 were up 50%, now sales are 9 (multiply by 1.5)

sales of 6 were up 100%, now sales are 12 (multiply by 2)

sales of 6 were up 200%, now sales are 8 (multiply by 3)

I don't know half of these sales figures half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of these sales figures half as well as they deserve.
 

Dragon

Banned
Liking something and being "more than a little" invested emotionally in a product are vastly different things. You trying to reduce one to the other is a pretty poor attempt at false equivalence, which is also pretty pathetic.

The word pathetic is getting a bit scared of all your emotional investment in its wellbeing!
 
Expect at least 4M copies of KZ:SF to be sold.

shadowfall is a different story. it's a AAA launch game for a highly anticipated console. It could be named "Resistance 4" and still do those numbers.

Killzone on vita is launching on a platform that's on life support. The window for mainstream gamers to give a shit about it is pretty much over- unless we're looking at it as an accessory to the PS4.
 

AniHawk

Member
Does anyone have the original PR? From either NPD or Nintendo?

Fully aware of that. Just a very gross comparison - I didn't break down the other price drop increases into the number of days on the market either, e.g. the Aug->Sept for PS3 Slim, the SKU actually released at the very end of Aug reporting iirc.

it might give a better look into how the drop improved sales though. of course the following month helps too.

if the vita actually was flat month over month, the price drop didn't do much for it, for example. the week of the price drop, it did 12-13k, and this month it hovered around 6k a week.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I see delaying Rayman Legends to go multi-platform was the smart thing to do. Boy do we gamers have egg on our faces now.

Not.
 

Kazerei

Banned
Pretty impressive the 3DS is on top with no notable software releases. Or maybe that just goes to show how fatigued the PS360 platforms are :p
 

B.O.O.M

Member
Liking something and being "more than a little" invested emotionally in a product are vastly different things. You trying to reduce one to the other is a pretty poor attempt at false equivalence, which is also pretty pathetic.

God stop throwing around the word pathetic around so much...nothing more pathetic than jumping to conclusion about another poster so quickly. So he likes the PS brand more...most of the people questioning him are no different either. But has nothing to do with this thread. This is such unnecessary drama.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Yep

Pach was right then on that one. I assume Sony will come fourth and talk about how their platform was the best selling home console in the US etc. They usually never comment on NA sales (for obvious reasons)

Come "fourth"? Who are the first 3 =P? It's forth lol.

Perhaps Sony will comment, although that kind of depends on how much they beat the 360 I would think.
 
Woah, Sony finally broke Microsoft's near 3 year streak.

Impressive stuff. Seems that GTA ad push worked out great for them, shame it came at the expense of Puppeteer. Yeah, I'm bitter that Sony sent that out to die...
 
Killzone 3 sold less than Killzone 2 which in itself is probably hovering between 2 and 3 million? I don't see it. Shadowfall isn't going to be a massive break out for the series I don't think.
Mentioned it before, but launch is something of a different beast.

Resistance as a new IP had a 50% attach rate at launch.

Shadow Fall will basically sell depending upon how the PS4 sells, not vice versa, imo.
 

Miles X

Member
Come "fourth"? Who are the first 3 =P? It's forth lol.

Perhaps Sony will comment, although that kind of depends on how much they beat the 360 I would think.

Where is this 170k - 190k range coming from? Obviously 360 being 170k.

Woah, Sony finally broke Microsoft's near 3 year streak.

Impressive stuff. Seems that GTA ad push worked out great for them, shame it came at the expense of Puppeteer. Yeah, I'm bitter that Sony sent that out to die...

4 years! I bet Major is secretly pissed :p
 

Into

Member
Come "fourth"? Who are the first 3 =P? It's forth lol.

Perhaps Sony will comment, although that kind of depends on how much they beat the 360 I would think.

Oh yeah, you are right. Excuse me its 1:15 here in Euroland =P

Sittin here middle of the night drinking red wine celebrating NPD day with Fellow Gaffers as that The_Monk guy would say!
 

Brashnir

Member
Killzone 3 sold less than Killzone 2 which in itself is probably hovering between 2 and 3 million? I don't see it. Shadowfall isn't going to be a massive break out for the series I don't think.

I tend to agree, but it does have the advantage of being perceived as "the" game to get around the PS4 launch. Launch software in general tends to enjoy stonger-than-normal sales, especially those perceived as the game to get, and it looks like PS4 is going to enjoy strong sales out of the gate, which could propel KZSF beyond previous entries in the series.
 

chadboban

Member
Killzone 3 sold less than Killzone 2 which in itself is probably hovering between 2 and 3 million? I don't see it. Shadowfall isn't going to be a massive break out for the series I don't think.

I don't know, I'm not really a huge Killzone fan, but SF does stand out as one of the better looking launch games. It really depends on the attach rate and how well sony markets it. Being a launch title could really help with it's sales and it could surpass it predecessors in the long run. We'll have to wait and see.
 

B.O.O.M

Member
Poor MS PR. Sony fucked their winning streak up at last.

To be fair their feat is nothing short of fantastic. They really did great this gen in the NA and UK markets. Like Sony say, this time around sony is the challenger

I have no faith in Jack Tretton so I don't think they will beat them here
 

Miles X

Member
I guess a similar point to the one you're making where you pick numbers out of your butt regarding 360 vs. PS3 sales of GTA.

No I used common sense, 360 multiplats in the US sell more than PS3, usually by the same ratios as the UK (which are actually revealed)

Why don't you pipe down if you're not going to contribute?
 
Oh yeah, he just needs that beard and cut a promo at E3 next year, but only bring up shit people on the internet know about.

MS did go heel this year, and man, what a heel! Mr. McMahon 1997 after the screwjob type heat.

My money is that Sony reveals the higher power who turns out to be Phil Harrison. "IT WAS ME BALLMER, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!!!!"
 
I tend to agree, but it does have the advantage of being perceived as "the" game to get around the PS4 launch. Launch software in general tends to enjoy stonger-than-normal sales, especially those perceived as the game to get, and it looks like PS4 is going to enjoy strong sales out of the gate, which could propel KZSF beyond previous entries in the series.

correct. KZ:SF *could* propel the series to greater recognition, given that the PS4 is poised to have a breakout launch, and there's not really much else on it's level at launch- especially since Watch_Dogs is delayed.
 

Jamix012

Member
I tend to agree, but it does have the advantage of being perceived as "the" game to get around the PS4 launch. Launch software in general tends to enjoy stonger-than-normal sales, especially those perceived as the game to get, and it looks like PS4 is going to enjoy strong sales out of the gate, which could propel KZSF beyond previous entries in the series.

Perhaps. It is possible I suppose, but I would expect the large majority of launch PS4 owners to choose CoD as their FPS, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
 

AniHawk

Member
3DS with no notable release this month outsold home consoles that had GTAV, did not expect that to be honest.

i agree. but the 3ds has found itself sorta rising and falling with the tide at the very top. the next three months are going to be really big. it'll probably sell a good 3-4m here.
 

Takao

Banned
Man that's sad. I don't own one but I have a friend that does. It's a great device. Sure most of it's lineup might not really appeal to me but it deserves better sales than what it's getting now, especially with it's price cut.

The price cut was so pointless given SCEA didn't bother telling anyone about it. Of course that shouldn't be a surprise given they haven't run a single TV ad for the platform this entire year.
 
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