Topher
Gold Member
No, I want you to tell companies to stop making games worse with their deals.
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AMD is Starfield’s Exclusive PC Partner
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No, I want you to tell companies to stop making games worse with their deals.
nemiroff
Gold Member
If you can't make an argument without regurgitating desperate levels of whataboutism perhaps it's better to leave that "post" button alone.
Make better tech, protect your ip, make deals with partners to promote it, that's fine. But don't pretend that "protecting" customers from competing better tech is acceptable. No matter who's doing it, it's bad. It's that simple.
Just to recap, we don't know for sure, but everything points towards there being a real risk that AMD is willing to demand competing upscaler tech in Starfield to be blocked, and that's what this thread is about IMO. If we can create some buzz to help encourage MS/Bethesda/AMD to make the right decision here then it's only a good thing. So pretty please take your whataboutism and shove it.
Make better tech, protect your ip, make deals with partners to promote it, that's fine. But don't pretend that "protecting" customers from competing better tech is acceptable. No matter who's doing it, it's bad. It's that simple.
Just to recap, we don't know for sure, but everything points towards there being a real risk that AMD is willing to demand competing upscaler tech in Starfield to be blocked, and that's what this thread is about IMO. If we can create some buzz to help encourage MS/Bethesda/AMD to make the right decision here then it's only a good thing. So pretty please take your whataboutism and shove it.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
More like Nvidia offered no money, because they’re more interested in their AI business than PC gaming.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The AMD Starfield bundle starts tomorrow July 11th
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-sta...clude-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-6600-gpus
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-sta...clude-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-6600-gpus
mansoor1980
Gold Member
game will have better sales because of bundles right neogaf?
except Ryzen that is good but the Gpus are trash.
Topher
Gold Member
The AMD Starfield bundle starts tomorrow July 11th
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-sta...clude-ryzen-7000-cpus-and-radeon-rx-6600-gpus
I don't get the $2890 and $1990 dollar figures. What is that supposed to mean?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I don't get the pricing either and looking around seems a lot of people are asking what those numbers mean
Topher
Gold Member
Think we've stumbled upon the "DLSS Exclusion Fund"?
I was going to say maybe a combined value of cpu/gpu purchase gets you to the different tiers, then I saw the numbers and not sure you could get to those values unless your buying multiple cpu/gpu bundles. So i'm left scratching my head aswell.
edit: AMD bringing back crossfire confirmed, 2 7900xtx and a 7850x for starfield 4k60. /s
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Topher
Gold Member
Looks like that is the dollar value of each edition of Starfield in Taiwanese dollars.
In USD, it would say $99.99 and $69.99
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Topher
Gold Member
DaGwaphics
Member
It won't actually cost users more in this case. Users buying a 6700+ GPU or the R9 CPUs just get access to the premium version (other than being required to purchase a more expensive piece of hardware, obviously).
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Fredrik
Member
Premium edition gives you access to the game 5 days early. And who wouldn’t want to play a Bethesda game without a day 1 patch? Bet it’ll be all sorts of fun!
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Wooxsvan
Member
So i got my 7900xtx and activated my promo code, now AMD's site says they will send my game key closer to launch. Does anyone know, from past experience, does that typically mean we get it in time for preload? especially considering its the premium edition which gives access on 9/1.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
Bumping this one because of what we've already assumed has basically come true:
www.pcgamesn.com
Starfield datamine shows no sign of Nvidia DLSS or Intel XeSS
Investigations into the Starfield preload files reveal a distinct lack of Nvidia DLSS or Intel XeSS footprints, suggesting it will only support AMD FSR.
www.pcgamesn.com
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Zathalus
Member
Looks like it's mods to the rescue again.Bumping this one because of what we've already assumed has basically come to true:
Starfield datamine shows no sign of Nvidia DLSS or Intel XeSS
Investigations into the Starfield preload files reveal a distinct lack of Nvidia DLSS or Intel XeSS footprints, suggesting it will only support AMD FSR.
Man AMD are such cunts sometimes.
winjer
Gold Member
I think we only get to redeem the game in the launch day.
But I think a few hours before launch it will probably be available.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I more blame MS for allowing this
Topher
Gold Member
Yep. Nvidia does this shit too so, while it sucks, I can understand AMD retaliating. But Microsoft? No excuse.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Their biggest game in how long and they allow this?
I was going to post in one of the other threads the preview build only had FSR as confirmed by a friend but was afraid it might trigger some i didn’t want to be that person
Topher
Gold Member
Their biggest game in how long and they allow this?
I was going to post in one of the other threads the preview build only had FSR as confirmed by a friend but was afraid it might trigger some i didn’t want to be that person
Microsoft really needs a big win with Starfield. Why in the world would they self-inflict this game's launch with controversy? This isn't going to shatter hype or anything, but still....why?
winjer
Gold Member
The thing is, MS needs Starfield to be a big win on consoles. PC is of little consequence for their goals of fighting Sony.
So what matters to them is the Series S and X version.
Topher
Gold Member
I get what you are saying, but I think that after ending a long drought with Redfall, Microsoft needs Starfield to be a big win overall for their gaming division. Mudding the waters on the PC side with this upscaler exclusivity nonsense is just not worth whatever cash MS is getting for it, imo.
Fredrik
Member
Yup and it’ll come back and bite them in the ass when people have issue with the performance and when AMD cards have better performance and less people own the cards needed there than Nvidia cards capable of using DLSS. More people complaining is never better than less people complaining. They need to sort it out if they haven’t signed a deal that DLSS can’t be there. 2 weeks to go.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
When have Nvidia made a deal that forbid a developer from supporting AMD’s features?
They’ve done plenty of shady shit but I don’t remember them ever doing that.
Edit: and yeah I blame MS more than anybody else. Come on Microsoft did you really need AMD’s help to market this thing?
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Topher
Gold Member
I may have spoke out of turn regarding Nvidia. That's been a debated topic here though and lots of people claiming they have, but I don't know for sure. There have definitely been games that have not supported FSR or XeSS. Cannot assume that is because Nvidia paid them not to.
Now that I think about it, I seem to recall Nvidia making a statement about it. So.....yeah, I don't really know.
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AMD dodges questions about FSR exclusivity in AMD-sponsored games - VideoCardz.com
AMD has no answer why DLSS might be missing in their sponsored games The majority of games that were included in AMD bundles or displayed with AMD logos during loading already incorporate technologies such as FidelityFX Super Resolution. This technology, which is based on advanced temporal...
videocardz.com
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