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Anthem is not worth reworking
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Bonfires Down
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I'll buy it at a low price.
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Written by a propagandist retard, but OP, this article probably has the insight you're looking for. Making room for sensationalism, and if I recall right, it paints a fascinating picture of bad developer practices, pride, and exec interference completely knocking the development off the rails.
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How BioWare's Anthem Went Wrong
It wasn’t even supposed to be called Anthem. Just days before the annual E3 convention in June of 2017, when the storied studio BioWare would reveal its newest game, the plan had been to go with a different title: Beyond. They’d even printed out Beyond T-shirts for the staff.
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SkylineRKR
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I agree. I think this ship has sailed and judging by Inquisition and Andromeda BioWare has lost it.
Perhaps next-gen can reach target render levels but the overall structure of the game is weak. Its a tried and true loot game with very by the numbers quest design. The game is pedestrian at best. And a piece of trash at worst.
Back in the day I advised people to just download Warframe. I feel its better, and its free.
Perhaps next-gen can reach target render levels but the overall structure of the game is weak. Its a tried and true loot game with very by the numbers quest design. The game is pedestrian at best. And a piece of trash at worst.
Back in the day I advised people to just download Warframe. I feel its better, and its free.
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I honestly forgot this game even existed. I guess "Anthem" sort of blended with "Apex" and my mind just erased it altogether.
Games of Today
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I thought the story mode was pretty sick and the game had nice graphics but the sound design was horrible. The waterfalls don't even make any noise lmfao! The only ambient noise that you hear is the gooses honking as they fly by! Other than a few cool concepts the game was horrible.
lefty1117
Gold Member
I actually thought the movement and combat was pretty good, even very good in this game. My problem was the setting and the lore, I just found it to be very uninteresting. I didn't care about what was happening ... the guy that was split into three people based on personality was fairly interesting but that was about it. Everything else was dead boring. The hub was boring and the whole setting was boring. But a Mass Effect game set 50 years after Andromeda with these suits to get around? Yeah that would be cool. I'd dig exploring new worlds in an Andromeda sequel, in these types of suits. Would be way more fun than the car!
I've seen games like No Man Sky, Sea of Thieves and Desitny 1 and 2 to have a comeback, some take just few months, others took two years, but they did it with constant updates. Seems that Anthem was not even updated in a year or so, either the clusterfuck still continues or they decided to release everything in a big update.
DrScissorsMD
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Not sure I understand your point. You’re pointing out all the things currently wrong with it; is that not exactly why a rework is being done? To fix the issues?
DeltaPolarBear
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The question is if it is worth fixing. Because if you need to restart from the ground up, you might as well make a new game/new IP. Anthem is not some massive decade old franchise, there is no legacy to rescue like with Final Fantasy 14.
DrScissorsMD
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Sure. I think the point is more that the assets are there. There’s plenty of things wrong with Anthem but the flying and general combat were at worst solid. I don’t know how feasible it is (probably not) but even just getting out of Frostbite seems like it would solve a lot of their problems (to be clear, I’m not saying Frostbite is bad, but it seems like from stuff I’ve read previously it was absolutely a terrible and somewhat rigid choice of engine for this type of game).
It is also known by anyone who didn't play Anthem ever... Before launch.
Iorv3th
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I am curious how you even played it for a few months? I could barely play it for more than a day. Did finish the shitty story and after that just dropped it.
MasterCornholio
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It's pretty much dead and BioWare will be as well if they continue to make games like Anthem.
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recursive
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Pretty sure this one is a case of Bioware grossly mismanaging the project. From what I recall EA was not the bad guy here.
Halo is Back
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Anthem is a waste of space and should have been canceled
Robot Carnival
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I actually really wanted to play it when it was first shown. the overall idea of the gameplay seems pretty awesome. Ironman around, shoot stuff, get better loot etc. but since it's EA, I figure there will be terrible microtransactions and other issues, so I didn't get in at launch and waited. and lo and behold the game is a mess. it's really a shame but I would really rather it worked out and be great despite being an EA game.
as for the rework, if they had acted faster, than maybe. but right now, I feel after all the people had left both on player side and dev side, there really isn't much point in patching this ship up now that it's already underwater.
as for the rework, if they had acted faster, than maybe. but right now, I feel after all the people had left both on player side and dev side, there really isn't much point in patching this ship up now that it's already underwater.
saintjules
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I really, really hope they don't shelve the project.
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Dthomp
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Same, I actually enjoyed quite a bit about Anthem, and with Bungie refusing to ditch the season pass model of their game I really need a different GaaS looter/shooter to get it right and Anthem had alot of elements that were good.
hybrid_birth
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Id hate to work on a game for 10 years only for it to flop. Its EA though. Most people want them to go away.
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MiguelItUp
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For their sake I hope if it happens they're able to get it in a better position. I'd feel awful if it happened and failed again anyway.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Dabaus
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Remember when the former xbox chief of marketing Mike Ybarra (i believe) had melt downs over Anthem reviews? Its almost like if Bioware couldnt get a GAAS Sci fi Iron man to work nobody could but thats the direction MS has decided to take the entire division. I understand his frustration if i was partly responsible for that.
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EverythingsOverrated
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Crazy to think that EA has given them a year and a half before making the final decision on going forward or not. That has me thinking that EA's up front investment on this game must have been absolutely massive.
The fact that we haven't heard anything at all in terms of leaks is also interesting. I don't know what it means, but I'm sure we'll find out eventually
The fact that we haven't heard anything at all in terms of leaks is also interesting. I don't know what it means, but I'm sure we'll find out eventually
iconmaster
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That's some intense pressure. Whichever way that meeting goes, I see a night at the bar for the Anthem Next team following it – pandemic or no.
Bioware died a long time ago, Dragon Age: Inquisition was fucking awful. Ass Effect games haven't been good since 1.
Mikey Jr.
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Hmmm, they are between a rock and a hard place.
Do you complete trash the Anthem IP and start fresh with a new IP?
Do you try for an Anthem 2, even though the first one was a complete disaster?
Do you try and salvage Anthem 1, and try to get it in a good spot so the whole brand isn't tarnished?
Do you complete trash the Anthem IP and start fresh with a new IP?
Do you try for an Anthem 2, even though the first one was a complete disaster?
Do you try and salvage Anthem 1, and try to get it in a good spot so the whole brand isn't tarnished?
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Halo is Back
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Sometimes you just got to know when to throw in the towel.
Allnamestakenlol
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Shitty situation, but the game mostly sucked. I'm amazed EA didn't put a bullet in its head shortly after launch.
OnionSnake
Banned
think its dead
digoutyoursoul
Member
It could simply go free to play. Personally I thought it was one of the biggest disappointments last generation.
The story, whatever it was, was hollow, it lacked that world building feel of a Mass Effect, the quest design was atrocious with a copy & paste model right at the forefront, characters lacked charm and even the soundtrack lacked impact.
Visually I thought it was great and the flight mechanics and shooting were on point, the rest left it feeling such a monotonous experience. It’s a shame as the potential is there and admittedly Bioware has a big place in my love of gaming, Mass Effect in particular, I want them to do well.
The story, whatever it was, was hollow, it lacked that world building feel of a Mass Effect, the quest design was atrocious with a copy & paste model right at the forefront, characters lacked charm and even the soundtrack lacked impact.
Visually I thought it was great and the flight mechanics and shooting were on point, the rest left it feeling such a monotonous experience. It’s a shame as the potential is there and admittedly Bioware has a big place in my love of gaming, Mass Effect in particular, I want them to do well.
Mattdaddy
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Im rooting for it, there was something inherently fun about flying around the map in your custom iron man suit blowing shit up in a party. The combat I thought was fun at its core, the weapons were generally pretty cool. There was just nothing else to do and they really failed to stick the landing on anything that wasnt flying around shooting and looking cool.
It did scratch some kind of itch though if they could figure out how to fix all the shortcomings and give it solid end game activities.
It did scratch some kind of itch though if they could figure out how to fix all the shortcomings and give it solid end game activities.
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HotPocket69
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Barrage
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I started Anthem around the same time I started playing Destiny 2, and was open to which one I was going to get into. Anthem was really pretty, and flying is initially fun, but the bottom line is that the game was fucking boring, and I never found a single enemy that was interesting or fun to fight against. It just feels totally...reactive in design and concept.
McCheese
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Imagine they give it the go ahead and wind up charging 60
The smart money would be on anthem next being a free-to-play title, with a focus on competitive team based multiplayer and cosmetics.
Owners of the original game will unlock the story mode that remains relatively unchanged and get a "I purchased anthem day one and all I got was this shitty camo" decal.
But the even smarter money is that papa EA takes them out behind the shed to show them Westwood studios.
JayK47
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By time I picked it up on a deep sale, it was a highly polished turd. It has no soul. I can't even remember any of the characters or enemies. I do remember it being insanely generic and bland. The kind of game an AI would make. Like something the Star Trek Next Generation computer would create for a holodeck program. It is such a boring world, I hope they do not make a sequel. There is really nothing to build on. But I fear Bioware is unable to make a game that is any better than Anthem. They are unable to admit they have a problem and that they are creatively bankrupt.
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