NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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Nope don't care
Have a good PC for the graphicz
Have a good PC for the graphicz
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Anyone else wish Nintendo would commit to just a little more power to allow their bigger IPs have better image quality?
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casablanca
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I mean I don’t really care for better graphics on Nintendo consoles. I only buy first party games and I’m happy by the way they look.
But still there are many games with frame rate issues soo It’s definitely underpowered even for Nintendo devs.
But still there are many games with frame rate issues soo It’s definitely underpowered even for Nintendo devs.
MadchesterManc
Member
It's more performance than graphics that's the issue with Switch games to me given portable on the small screen usually sidesteps the image quality issue. I remember folk used to always screech about 60fps with Nintendo games, now we lucky if we get a locked 30
ReBurn
Gold Member
I mean this is pretty much all games since analog thumb sticks became a thing and it's not just Nintendo. Games haven't really been innovative in over 20 years. Most of it is still run, jump, shoot, solve puzzle. It just got prettier, which is all more power to a Nintendo machine would do for their games.
Impotaku
Member
You say everyone cares about gameplay & yet plenty seem to delight in rushing to buy AAA unfinished full price beta releases.
It's all in the wrist
Member
1080 60 at least. Can't handle the Switch's framerate issues for most games.
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
Of course I would! I tried BotW on CEMU after playing it on the switch and it's night and day!
DaGwaphics
Member
Anyone says no, knock them in the head. 
That goes for all systems, the option for more power is always good, at all the price points. That last statement should be read in the character of Tim Taylor.
That goes for all systems, the option for more power is always good, at all the price points. That last statement should be read in the character of Tim Taylor.
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onnextflix5
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We have been wishing since the end of the GameCube era .remember the wii u zelda tech demo. We are never going a see a zelda game like that are we.
lovetalkgames
Banned
People have been making this argument since the literal playground as kids, and the Japanese toy/card company has proved them wrong every time.
TheTony316
Member
This isn't something recent. Sony stopped making japanese first party games over a decade ago, at least on home consoles. Sure, there was TLG (which was supposed to launch in 2009) and Gravity Rush 2 (which flopped) but that's about it.
TheTony316
Member
A bit more power would be nice. Switch games do look nice but the image quality is terrible in many games.
Ezquimacore
Banned
I used to have this opinion but now I enjoy their consoles and when I wanna play a game like Xenoblade or breath of the wild I do it on PC. So my opinion is, if you're a Nintendo fan that wants better graphics, buy a PC. You will be happy as f.
Captain Toad
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I love Nintendo, but I don't understand anyone saying no. I would love to play Nintendo games with better performance and cleaner visuals.
XC3 is great, but it looks like there is a layer of soup over the game. And the framerate feels bad when coming from playing so many games at 60+ FPS.
XC3 is great, but it looks like there is a layer of soup over the game. And the framerate feels bad when coming from playing so many games at 60+ FPS.
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Ezquimacore
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Yeah they have the talent and money lol, it's Nintendo.
They don't have the hardware, but once you upscale their games on PC. This is what you get, a fucking beauty.
daveonezero
Banned
Most people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. It is still beautiful at 1080p on a decent screen.Yeah they have the talent and money lol, it's Nintendo.
They don't have the hardware, but once you upscale their games on PC. This is what you get, a fucking beauty.
I’ve been playing Hades docked on a Somy XJ90 and it looks fine. Granted I have never games at 4K.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Been wishing this since they moved on from the Gamecube.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Is this a conspiracy theory? Anyone else agree with me on this?
Nintendo purposely gimps their systems, so most big and popular third party games dont show up. Therefore, Nintendo hoards more first software sales going up against weak third party games.
Think of all the really popular third party games that arent on Wii or Switch which get a lot of sales and play time. Nintendo first party games dont have to compete against them.
Nintendo purposely gimps their systems, so most big and popular third party games dont show up. Therefore, Nintendo hoards more first software sales going up against weak third party games.
Think of all the really popular third party games that arent on Wii or Switch which get a lot of sales and play time. Nintendo first party games dont have to compete against them.
Bo_Hazem
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Yeah they have the talent and money lol, it's Nintendo.
They don't have the hardware, but once you upscale their games on PC. This is what you get, a fucking beauty.
Those can be on phones as well.
Ezquimacore
Banned
All they needed for switch was 1080p and steady 30fps/60fps and people would be satisfied. But the games they're making are too ambitious for the hardware, it's obvious Nintendo now want to make big open worlds and 60fps platformers, but they have to deal with what they have. Which was great in 2017 don't get me wrong.
Now they're even using AMD fidelity fx because some of their games like Xenoblade 2 go below 720p. I don't want the most powerful Nintendo console, I want a console good enough to run the games they're making as intended.
Ezquimacore
Banned
Phone these days are stronger than a PS4 so your comment is right, sadly the biggest native gaming experience you can get on your phone is Genshin Impact.
Those can be on phones as well.
alabtrosMyster
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I do, but once you go down that rabbit hole there is no going back... Just a bit more! Oh more resolution would display more details too and those pesky shadows need more resolution while we are at it, Holy crap that AF needs to be pumped up now and please better reflections too... Why are alpha effects running at 1/4 resolution?
This is how you end up with a 32gb 100tf GPU that requires a dedicated 1200w PSU with thermal dissipation tech stolen from UFO's .
This is how you end up with a 32gb 100tf GPU that requires a dedicated 1200w PSU with thermal dissipation tech stolen from UFO's .
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graywolf323
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I just really hope the next Switch can handle 1080/60 docked and 720/60 in handheld and having DLSS support as well would be great
The_hunter
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Bayonetta 3 looks high quality, 60 fps in the trailer.
I've been playing bayo 1 and the difference in quality is huge.
I've been playing bayo 1 and the difference in quality is huge.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
The pressure is mounting on Nintendo’s graphics division.
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Hmm, well, you know, more power is always better, but it's not really in my top 3 things I want in a console. If it came at a higher price point, or less battery life, then yeah, fuck that.
For context: I still use a 2009-era 32 inch 720P TV as my main gaming screen because it refuses to die on me, and I refuse to replace perfectly working electronics. So that should give you an idea of how much I value graphical stuff in my games. I also mostly play Nintendo games that look great already, and (niche/budget) jRPG's that don't really look great even on Steam/PS4/5 but rely on their artstyle. In both cases the Switch does its job perfectly fine for me.
For context: I still use a 2009-era 32 inch 720P TV as my main gaming screen because it refuses to die on me, and I refuse to replace perfectly working electronics. So that should give you an idea of how much I value graphical stuff in my games. I also mostly play Nintendo games that look great already, and (niche/budget) jRPG's that don't really look great even on Steam/PS4/5 but rely on their artstyle. In both cases the Switch does its job perfectly fine for me.
Shifty
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Then disprove it using argumentation beyond miminal basic bitch bombast, monkey boy.
4K seems like overkill to me when most PC setups are still targeting the 1440p sweet spot where you can have nice performance and image quality without having to cheat the final result up to native resolution via upscaling or reconstruction techniques.
If they're sticking with handheld, 4K is a lot of pixels to push while on a battery and chipset budget. I guess that's the rub of being the low-tech competitor in an era where TV makers have outstripped affordable rendering hardware and show no sign of stopping their beeline for bigger numbers.
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ChorizoPicozo
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No. HD towns are hard. Imagine ultra HD towns. People keep buying 240p games with an ugly Image Quality. So...why do better? That ain't Nintendo.
Knightime_X
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If I can find the game on stronger, much more able hardware, I actively avoid buying pretty much all none 1st party polygon-based games on switch.
I NEED at minimum 1080p + 4x AA or 1440p AND 60fps regardless of resolution option.
I NEED at minimum 1080p + 4x AA or 1440p AND 60fps regardless of resolution option.
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Whitecrow
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Not my job. Time will make you grow and change your mind, hopefully.
cinnamonandgravy
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imagine if the switch 2 went the opposite way and maxed out at 480p w/ no aa/post-processing/af/etc,.
"we just gonna focus gameplay, fam."
my response
would still buy the games if theyre good though.
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Valt7786
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As much as I loved playing through stuff like Bayonetta 2, Zelda BOTW, Xenoblade trilogy and MH Rise, everytime I do I can't help but think just how much they deserve to be on better hardware. Xenoblade 3's combat at high fidelity with a stable framerate would look so fucking good.
Nintendo's first party, Monolith soft and Platinum games especially just deserve better.
Nintendo's first party, Monolith soft and Platinum games especially just deserve better.
eastcoastkody
Member
nope. BOTW and Super Mario Odyssey and Splatoon etc.....i had no image quality complaints.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Native 4K is probaly overkill, but for me, I want Nintendo to make another non-portable console with power equivalent to at least a Series S, but I know they likely won't do that.
Shifty
Member
It's every forum poster's job to back up their shit talk, otherwise we'd be Twitter.
Now front up and lay down some reasoning, lest you make your inadequacy any more plainly obvious.
The madmen would probably still find a way to pull it off with the size of their warchest.imagine if the switch 2 went the opposite way and maxed out at 480p w/ no aa/post-processing/af/etc,.
"we just gonna focus gameplay, fam."
my response
would still buy the games if theyre good though.
Also for a second I misread that as 'maxing out 480p', as in throwing the full RTX DLSS 16xMSAA 16xAF treatment at a sub-HD screen. Now that would be interesting to see
Rocco Schiavone
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Nintendo is done trying to stay up to date. Enjoy being ripped off with one generation behind hardware.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Under normal circumstances I would say Nintendo is fine however, considering the Switch is the basically a Wii U Pro and has had the same range of graphics/ performance for over 10 years, it would appear that an upgrade would be in order
KXVXII9X
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Kind of controversial (even for myself), but I truly think Nintendo games deserve adequate hardware for their games. The Nintendo Switch concept is my dream console. I cried when it was announced because it was everything I ever dreamed of and more.
I would happily trade off power for portability. I still value portability. Even up till last year, I was adamant about Nintendo not needing power and gameplay is king. I think it was until I noticed the low-resolution and performance that the trade-off seemed less forgiving.
It didn't help I bought a Gaming Laptop Christmas last year. I promised myself I wouldn't be those annoying PC snobs and I would still be able to play anything, but more and more I'm appreciating the crisp resolution, high framerates, and I'm so ready to move onto "next gen" graphics. I'm not even satisfied with retro looking indies anymore.
I still love the Switch and think Nintendo is king with art direction in a lot of their games and think they make the most out of what they are given which is great. I'm not someone who values graphics over everything, but it does help. I will probably get XBC3 at some point. Monolith Soft is a great studio. I just think these games would be better with more power behind them.
I would happily trade off power for portability. I still value portability. Even up till last year, I was adamant about Nintendo not needing power and gameplay is king. I think it was until I noticed the low-resolution and performance that the trade-off seemed less forgiving.
It didn't help I bought a Gaming Laptop Christmas last year. I promised myself I wouldn't be those annoying PC snobs and I would still be able to play anything, but more and more I'm appreciating the crisp resolution, high framerates, and I'm so ready to move onto "next gen" graphics. I'm not even satisfied with retro looking indies anymore.
I still love the Switch and think Nintendo is king with art direction in a lot of their games and think they make the most out of what they are given which is great. I'm not someone who values graphics over everything, but it does help. I will probably get XBC3 at some point. Monolith Soft is a great studio. I just think these games would be better with more power behind them.
Crayon
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Just a bit more so it could reliably push 1080p docked. If it had dlss from there, we'd be in good shape. Switch 2 could take care of it. After having a switch this whole time, what I really wish for is a stationary console that could get more ports that don't have to be "impossible ports". That's not happening anytime soon, though. Anyone who has a better platform would skip those, including me, but it would make the switch stand on it's own more. Neither here nor there, I suppose.