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At this point of last generation (2 years) Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain was out
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TheDreadBaron
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You know if nothing else it’s fascinating that the opinions on MGSV are still so split. I personally don’t see how you need anything more than the gameplay which is an S++ masterpiece, but the sharp divide on opinions reveals an interesting fact: some people are uncultured swine.
GametimeUK
Member
Cross gen so it's trash by default apparently.
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Badlucktroll
Member
Kojima would get it back if Sony buys Metal Gear.
Kiya's Guard
Member
Superb gameplay, plain boring maps with repeated bases (i get it, theyre military camps), typical kojima plot.
Instead of having real life expensive sunglasses brands, the budget could have been into having more interactive maps.
And I bought the game twice...
Instead of having real life expensive sunglasses brands, the budget could have been into having more interactive maps.
And I bought the game twice...
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Bruh ..you forgot the two best games of 2015: Witcher 3 and Bloodborne!
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
Playing it right now FOR THE FIRST TIME on PS5
I was probably in my manic Skyrim OCD phase when it came out but wow
Guilty_AI
Member
Which also happened with Elden Ring funnily enough. I think both cases are just instances of a game trying a different approach to the formula from previous titles, causing some of the old fans to dislike it in the proccess.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Ground Zero should have been the foundation for what MGSV should have been.
I truly feel like the "open world" nature of Pain really hurt the MGSV.
Also, getting rid of Hayter and replacing him with Kiefer was a fucking mistake. I'm sorry Kojima, but that was fucking dumb.
You're in the sixth fucking entry at this point, about to wrap up Big Bosses story, and you replace Hayter with Kiefer? Whats the point? And not only that, its clear the rate for Kiefer was $5000 per word, so that why we got like 3 sentences from him the whole game. I genuinely don't get the logic. The man has a raging hard-on for Hollywood.
I truly feel like the "open world" nature of Pain really hurt the MGSV.
Also, getting rid of Hayter and replacing him with Kiefer was a fucking mistake. I'm sorry Kojima, but that was fucking dumb.
You're in the sixth fucking entry at this point, about to wrap up Big Bosses story, and you replace Hayter with Kiefer? Whats the point? And not only that, its clear the rate for Kiefer was $5000 per word, so that why we got like 3 sentences from him the whole game. I genuinely don't get the logic. The man has a raging hard-on for Hollywood.
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
If only they had bases like in GZ in Phantom Pain ..like real bases not these little buildings/camps that we got. Only like 2 or 3 places felt kinda big enough to be called a "base".
Perrott
Member
The first time is crazy. Having that absolutely insane narrative unfold around you, without you understanding any of what's going on, and then picking up the pieces afterwards and realizing what the game was really about on so many levels... just wow. MGSV as a whole was Kojima at his very best.Playing it right now FOR THE FIRST TIME on PS5
I was probably in my manic Skyrim OCD phase when it came out but wow
And then there's that sweet ass gameplay, progression systems, online functionalities, graphics, soundtrack... 10/10.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Nah. Elden Ring is graphically behind a lot of last gen games.
MGSV was amazing looking and had next gen (at the time) gameplay too.
REDRZA MWS
Gold Member
I wasn’t a huge fan of 5, it felt to me, at least. Konami kinda rushed Kojima-San and the game never felt “cohesive”. Technical masterpiece though.
Wish MS and/or Sony would buy the IP and let Kojima does what he does best. It’s a real travesty there is no MGS this gen (or maybe ever again)
Wish MS and/or Sony would buy the IP and let Kojima does what he does best. It’s a real travesty there is no MGS this gen (or maybe ever again)
REDRZA MWS
Gold Member
I agree but for me MGS 3 Snake Eater was the epitome. Would kill for a complete remake on new gen hardware.
Apocryphon
Member
Fantastic engine and fantastic gameplay mechanics, but the story was weak and the game lacked the atmosphere found in previous games. It was unfinished and felt it.
I love the game but I found the premise and feel in Ground Zeros to be more interesting. A remake of the first MGS in that engine would have been incredible.
I still think Shadow Moses is the best location in the mainline series. The dark, foreboding atmosphere, the sound design, the feeling of isolation and danger. Ground Zeroes didn't quite capture that feeling, but it came closer than MGSV. Returning to Shadow Moses in 4 was a nice experience but it was both far too short and too far removed from the gameplay in the original.
I would love a game that was a combination of MGS1 and 3, with many of the mechanics from V.
I love the game but I found the premise and feel in Ground Zeros to be more interesting. A remake of the first MGS in that engine would have been incredible.
I agree for the most part but the open world focus was key to many of the gameplay mechanics. MGSV has the best feeling gameplay in the series but the least inspired world and atmosphere.
I still think Shadow Moses is the best location in the mainline series. The dark, foreboding atmosphere, the sound design, the feeling of isolation and danger. Ground Zeroes didn't quite capture that feeling, but it came closer than MGSV. Returning to Shadow Moses in 4 was a nice experience but it was both far too short and too far removed from the gameplay in the original.
I would love a game that was a combination of MGS1 and 3, with many of the mechanics from V.
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
Wasn't this game cross gen?
Fbh
Member
Most frustrating game ever.
The gameplay is so nice but I didn't like anything else about it. Broing plot with boring characters, hated the mission structure and base building.
It's a shame we never got a more traditional MGS with this gameplay
It literally didn't have next gen gameplay since the content and gameplay was identical on Ps3 and 360
I'd also argue the graphics weren't that amazing. The character models and animations were nice but the environments are mostly boring empty desert type areas. GTAV had a way more complex and dynamic open world.
What's true though is that it did indeed looks great for a 60fps console game.
The gameplay is so nice but I didn't like anything else about it. Broing plot with boring characters, hated the mission structure and base building.
It's a shame we never got a more traditional MGS with this gameplay
It literally didn't have next gen gameplay since the content and gameplay was identical on Ps3 and 360
I'd also argue the graphics weren't that amazing. The character models and animations were nice but the environments are mostly boring empty desert type areas. GTAV had a way more complex and dynamic open world.
What's true though is that it did indeed looks great for a 60fps console game.
Thabass
Member
It really was an amazing game when it comes to it's actual gameplay. Too bad the rest of it was...yeah...
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
And was also cross-gen
Little Chicken
Member
I actually own this, despite never having played a Metal Gear Solid game before. I should give it a go.
Apocryphon
Member
I don't know about you guys but this looks like it's ridiculously fun to me:
MGS V is not complete with its ending. The deleted episode elaborates on what happened with Eli and the other child soldiers. Kojima is full of shit with this ending complete nonsense.
Didn't play them actually so I missed them, but just goes to show how good the year was!
REDRZA MWS
Gold Member
I don’t think it was Kojima, but rather Konami, who has since went on to make make panchinko machines.
Not many Kojima fans like to hear this, but he was not easy to work with as a business partner. He often demanded a large budget and did not stick to deadlines. His ambitions to be associated with Hollywood stars is totally fanboyish, and his grudge with David Hayter is a product of this.
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Biggest letdown last gen
anthony2690
Gold Member
This was on the Xbox 360 and PS3 too.
Good gameplay & 80s soundtrack.
Everything else was awful though, absolutely dull copied and pasted feeling world.
Terrible story.
The same copied and pasted outposts everywhere.
Repeated missions with conditions tacked on.
The first mission is the last mission, tutorial prompts and all.
Hell the opening mission is completely different game to the rest off the game.
Kojima was bleeding Konami dry & this is all he had to show for it, after all these years.
I'll NEVER understand how this game got a 93/95% metacritic.
Good gameplay & 80s soundtrack.
Everything else was awful though, absolutely dull copied and pasted feeling world.
Terrible story.
The same copied and pasted outposts everywhere.
Repeated missions with conditions tacked on.
The first mission is the last mission, tutorial prompts and all.
Hell the opening mission is completely different game to the rest off the game.
Kojima was bleeding Konami dry & this is all he had to show for it, after all these years.
I'll NEVER understand how this game got a 93/95% metacritic.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
MGSV has way better gameplay than Isolation
GooseMan69
Member
MGS V shits on Witcher 3. And I like TW3. But gameplay cannot be compared.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Enjoyed it despite there being those repeated missions later on (and learning of the cuts meant we got something incomplete). Beautiful visuals, audio and the game play loop very addictive. But also a game l wouldn't want to play again knowing flaws. Shame the engine won't be used in future games as was cutting edge at the time.
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SuperBabyMethod
Member
Disagree. All answers lie in the cassette tapes that add so much to the plot and themes. Not his fault gamers never paid attention to it.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
I need to get around to playing this. Played every Metal Gear Solid except V. Hated that it went open world, so I never gave it a shot. I just wish it would get a 4K HDR update.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
To be fair it's 1440p on ps4 pro/ ps5 and looks pretty good
eastcoastkody
Member
i would rather play any random Ubisoft game.
sad cuz the Metal Gear Solid games are among my favorites. and the stupid demo prologue thing i had more fun playing, than the actual game. Its just dull.
sad cuz the Metal Gear Solid games are among my favorites. and the stupid demo prologue thing i had more fun playing, than the actual game. Its just dull.
Kydd BlaZe
Member
Yeah but it still doesn’t have HDR, so the image feels a little flat.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
"We have yet to have a next gen experience like that (It was in fact cross gen but the graphics were amazing on PS4 and the gameplay felt next gen)"
Gears of War that gen also.
Gears of War that gen also.
REDRZA MWS
Gold Member
Genius’s often aren’t easy to work with.