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Best Dev: Naughty Dog, Insomniac, or From?
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MadchesterManc
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Insomniac and it's not even close
Insane Metal
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Naughty Dog by a huge margin.
Hobbygaming
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I don't think any studio is as well rounded as Naughty Dog when it comes to combining gameplay, graphics and story together
Insomniac Games are getting close though
Insomniac Games are getting close though
Swift_Star
Banned
They excel at different things.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
For me is From!
Never I had a game series (souls/borne/sekiro) made me not like to play other games, From and Miyaza san changed the game (no pun intended) for me and theres no going back
Never I had a game series (souls/borne/sekiro) made me not like to play other games, From and Miyaza san changed the game (no pun intended) for me and theres no going back
Sentenza
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And I care about different things too, which incidentally makes incredibly easy to pick a "winner" among these three.
it's FROM and it wasn't even a contest, really.
ChuckeRearmed
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Insomniiac are the best tech wise.
Imru’ al-Qays
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From is on another level. Only Nintendo compares
Angelcurio
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Gameplay is king, so my vote goes to FROM.
TonyK
Member
I just finished Uncharted 4 again and I was amazed like the first day. No other developer can match them in these type of cinematic games. For comparison, I finished Guardian of the galaxy some weeks ago, and narratively, detail, animations, acting, gameplay, all, is mediocre compared with Uncharted 4. Naughty is simply in another level.
Said that, my most hyped game this year is Elden Ring. My problem is that From Software is a person, Miyazaki, but I think that From software without him would be nothing.
Said that, my most hyped game this year is Elden Ring. My problem is that From Software is a person, Miyazaki, but I think that From software without him would be nothing.
Badlucktroll
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Swift_Star
Banned
That’s like, your opinion.
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Sentenza
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Yeah, it is.
Zombie9ers
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Naughty Dog and it’s not even close. They have released more consensus game of the years over the past 20 years then any other developer in the world. They’ve also released the most awarded game in video game history with TLOU Part II. They are so good the competition does book reports on them.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
343 on Gamepass with VRS are the best! You get plenty of value if you look at it!
Boss Mog
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From is out of the running because technically they suck, their games are often ugly and don't run well (frame-pacing in Bloodborne comes to mind). Insomniac and ND are masterclass technically, especially Insomniac, producing insane graphics with RT at 60fps on PS5. TLOU2 was overall disappointing for me so I'll give it to Insomniac.
Sleepwalker
Member
I dont even enjoy from games that much, but objectively speaking it has to be them.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I would have picked Naughty Dog had they not gone all woke on us. Right now, I don't know.
Best gameplay would probably go to From, but from a technical level they are easily the weakest of the 3. I'd have to go with Insomniac.
Best gameplay would probably go to From, but from a technical level they are easily the weakest of the 3. I'd have to go with Insomniac.
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mansoor1980
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insomniac
Mibu no ookami
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From a performance standpoint on original IP, I think you'd be hard-pressed to go with someone outside of Naughty Dog here.
Even without being multiplatform Naughty Dog has probably outsold all From Software games.
Insomniac had great success with Spider-Man but none of their original IP have been anywhere close to the level of success as Uncharted or Last of Us. So you're talking 7 original games that have all performed better than ANYTHING Insomniac has done (with original IP).*
*Maybe a couple of the Ratchet and Clank games over time have performed as well as Lost Legacy...
Insomniac has growth potential, but there is a reason they sold for 229 million. They really haven't executed yet. Who knows how long they'll have the Spider-Man license. Short of Sony and Disney merging, I don't think they'll have Spider-Man and Wolverine forever. And I hope for their talent they produce an effective original IP this gen.
Even without being multiplatform Naughty Dog has probably outsold all From Software games.
Insomniac had great success with Spider-Man but none of their original IP have been anywhere close to the level of success as Uncharted or Last of Us. So you're talking 7 original games that have all performed better than ANYTHING Insomniac has done (with original IP).*
*Maybe a couple of the Ratchet and Clank games over time have performed as well as Lost Legacy...
Insomniac has growth potential, but there is a reason they sold for 229 million. They really haven't executed yet. Who knows how long they'll have the Spider-Man license. Short of Sony and Disney merging, I don't think they'll have Spider-Man and Wolverine forever. And I hope for their talent they produce an effective original IP this gen.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
From >>>>> Insomniac > ND
mansoor1980
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sncvsrtoip
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Only Naughty Dog made 10/10 games(lou 1 and 2) so easy choice
TheGodfather07
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Even though I hated tlou 2 story, I would still have to say naughty dog overall.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Love all 3, but ND is on another level. Technology, gameplay and story telling are mastered almost to perfection by them.
From makes great games, with extremely good gameplay, but lack on a technological level.
Insomniac are probably the most constant and productive devs right now. They make overall great games.
From makes great games, with extremely good gameplay, but lack on a technological level.
Insomniac are probably the most constant and productive devs right now. They make overall great games.
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SirTerry-T
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Are we including or excluding the legions of outsourced talent at least two of those three Devs use?
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
What criteria are we using? Or just make up on our own?
Shut0wen
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From software games arw great but fuck me they have no clue how to optimise a game that is stable on 30fps, naughty dog are incredibly talented but insomnia has only made one good game after resistance 3 which was spiderman so from that choice id say naughty dog, but overall my favourite and mosst talented imo is remedy
squarealex
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A poll when only From Software is multi platform.
I mean... kinda guess who win?
I mean... kinda guess who win?
Represent.
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Naughty Dog. Not particularly close either. FROM isnt even in the same galaxy.
For instance their games are all shit on the technical side. Top tier devs excel at everything.
For instance their games are all shit on the technical side. Top tier devs excel at everything.
Isa
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What kind of list is that? What criteria did you use to lump them together? They each do their own thing, so far removed from the others its wrong to even compare them, and by what means? Overall gfx? Total nominations and awards by media outlets I couldn't give a toss about? Mocap quality and use? Sound design? Concept art? Storyboards, design and implementation?
On a personal level for me its Fromsoft overlapping easily. They do more with such a smaller budget, with greater diversity in game design and teams, whereas looking back most of ND and Insomniac's stuff has been very similar, cinematic action adventures in a linear or open world fashion. I think ND has great talent and spends the most of it on animation and detail but that they were more impressive during the Jak & Daxter era since they had to work with more fantastical ideas, designs and animations(which were among the absolute best in the industry in my opinion). Plus more varied game design, whereas since Uncharted to TLoU I've been playing the same game.
Insomniac has room to grow, and is also very talented. I also haven't enjoyed either of the two most recent Ratchet titles which is a shame because I used to LOVE them. They too seem to not want to push themselves in game design, relying on easier straightforward experiences. I miss the humor and spaceflight. But they are a really solid developer with incredible output at a consistent pace and quality.
But From is on another level. Artistically varied, creating games spanning quite different genres, with incredible gameplay that is first and foremost front and center. For perspective on influence, how many games try to ape ND and Insomniac, compared to what From has done? There are so many Souls clones, inspired by's, not to mention the overused Soulslike and Dark Souls of descriptors thrown around by gamers and developers/marketing teams. For me the prior two are like eating a huge cake or fast food. The image sold is impressive but not long lasting and failed to leave a lasting impression, whereas From are like a heart family dinner, keeping me coming back for more. All my friends and family talk about it long after the event and its something to ponder and anticipate. I also think putting Miyazaki up on a pedestal whilst ignoring the work of the rest of the team(s) is wrong, game design is a group effort and their achievements shouldn't be understated. Every captain needs a good crew, and vice versa.
On a personal level for me its Fromsoft overlapping easily. They do more with such a smaller budget, with greater diversity in game design and teams, whereas looking back most of ND and Insomniac's stuff has been very similar, cinematic action adventures in a linear or open world fashion. I think ND has great talent and spends the most of it on animation and detail but that they were more impressive during the Jak & Daxter era since they had to work with more fantastical ideas, designs and animations(which were among the absolute best in the industry in my opinion). Plus more varied game design, whereas since Uncharted to TLoU I've been playing the same game.
Insomniac has room to grow, and is also very talented. I also haven't enjoyed either of the two most recent Ratchet titles which is a shame because I used to LOVE them. They too seem to not want to push themselves in game design, relying on easier straightforward experiences. I miss the humor and spaceflight. But they are a really solid developer with incredible output at a consistent pace and quality.
But From is on another level. Artistically varied, creating games spanning quite different genres, with incredible gameplay that is first and foremost front and center. For perspective on influence, how many games try to ape ND and Insomniac, compared to what From has done? There are so many Souls clones, inspired by's, not to mention the overused Soulslike and Dark Souls of descriptors thrown around by gamers and developers/marketing teams. For me the prior two are like eating a huge cake or fast food. The image sold is impressive but not long lasting and failed to leave a lasting impression, whereas From are like a heart family dinner, keeping me coming back for more. All my friends and family talk about it long after the event and its something to ponder and anticipate. I also think putting Miyazaki up on a pedestal whilst ignoring the work of the rest of the team(s) is wrong, game design is a group effort and their achievements shouldn't be understated. Every captain needs a good crew, and vice versa.
James Sawyer Ford
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Most Efficiently run - Insomniac
Most craftsmanship - FromSoftware
Most cinematic - Naughty Dog
Most craftsmanship - FromSoftware
Most cinematic - Naughty Dog