thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Wow there's not a lot of respect for Insomniac, huh? Well out of those three, I think they're the best due to consistency and keeping a generally high bar of quality. From, though, are a great choice although a lot of their games these days are starting to seem same-y.
I don't really understand the people who picked Naughty Dog; they at one point used to be Sony's marquee studio IMO but TLOU2 is just something of a cluster of a game. Fantastic animation work, terrible story and story structure, let alone pacing (way too many flashbacks, bad structure for flashback segments, etc.), some "questionable" imagery (as in, things that might play into certain stereotypes, with no clever commentary to go alongside it), and very little gameplay innovation outside of what, proning?
I know there are some people who will forever insist it was only "certain people" who disliked the game (those who had an agenda, mainly out of console warring), but I can still clearly remember multiple regular streamers playing the game, who loved the first one, and became apathetic towards the sequel the longer they played it and in some cases, not even interested enough to finish playing the game. There were definitely quite a few regular folks who didn't seem to enjoy the direction Part 2 took, I don't think their criticisms should be thrown away simply because you did have some agenda-pushers riding the controversies prior to release.
Now Naughty Dog's next two games are yet more TLOU-related things, the remake and TLOU2 Factions. Supposedly they're working on a new IP but we know literally nothing about it and probably won't for a year or so. And they're undoubtedly making an Uncharted sequel, as well. If the storytelling in those games continues the way Part 2 did, and gameplay innovations are slight at best, I honestly don't see how anyone can realistically consider them Sony's marquee studio going forward.
I feel like a few of their studios have been in that position over time; at first Polyphony was their marquee, then SSM (God of War series), then Naughty Dog, then Guerilla, Sucker Punch and Insomniac. I'd say right now it's between those three for the title, but I can see Guerilla back in the mix with Ragnarok. Point is, none of those names are Naughty Dog and that's the telling part for me.
I don't really understand the people who picked Naughty Dog; they at one point used to be Sony's marquee studio IMO but TLOU2 is just something of a cluster of a game. Fantastic animation work, terrible story and story structure, let alone pacing (way too many flashbacks, bad structure for flashback segments, etc.), some "questionable" imagery (as in, things that might play into certain stereotypes, with no clever commentary to go alongside it), and very little gameplay innovation outside of what, proning?
I know there are some people who will forever insist it was only "certain people" who disliked the game (those who had an agenda, mainly out of console warring), but I can still clearly remember multiple regular streamers playing the game, who loved the first one, and became apathetic towards the sequel the longer they played it and in some cases, not even interested enough to finish playing the game. There were definitely quite a few regular folks who didn't seem to enjoy the direction Part 2 took, I don't think their criticisms should be thrown away simply because you did have some agenda-pushers riding the controversies prior to release.
Now Naughty Dog's next two games are yet more TLOU-related things, the remake and TLOU2 Factions. Supposedly they're working on a new IP but we know literally nothing about it and probably won't for a year or so. And they're undoubtedly making an Uncharted sequel, as well. If the storytelling in those games continues the way Part 2 did, and gameplay innovations are slight at best, I honestly don't see how anyone can realistically consider them Sony's marquee studio going forward.
I feel like a few of their studios have been in that position over time; at first Polyphony was their marquee, then SSM (God of War series), then Naughty Dog, then Guerilla, Sucker Punch and Insomniac. I'd say right now it's between those three for the title, but I can see Guerilla back in the mix with Ragnarok. Point is, none of those names are Naughty Dog and that's the telling part for me.