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[Kenpachii]

The problem i have with those sites is that they are misleading in what they are selling. And brainwashing and recruiting young woman that are cleuless into becoming sex workers.

Onlyfans sounds like a fan website where people can track the lives from said person. more like somekind of facebook but with more information about the artist or the person u follow, like house tours etc.

But the reality is, that its just a coverup site for sex workers a place that does nothing else then sell porn for consumption.

What i find incredible damaging for young girls is that they get introduced in somekind of sex workers training camp that brainwashed them into being straight up sex workers. Some chick from onlyfans was actually talking about this a while ago where she stated that 2 years before she started she didn't really though she would be going to such extents but because she got introduced into twitch then from twitch into grinding more "subs" for success and everybody being happy for her + competition to the point she moved over to only fans and standing naked making pictures of herself and video's in all ways in order to create more money and success and respect from the shitshow of people around her. It started with talking cute into a mic but ended up her stripping down and make sexual pictures of herself naked not long after.

That's the problem.

It's all hip and great and cool and edgy until u realize u are basically a sex worker. I was watching mizkif a while ago about it and one of those chicks from onlyfans was at his place. she basically stated that his girlfriend should also make a account because she could make a lot of money there. ( and there you go, active recruiting ). He basically reacted that's impossible, because if she makes a account on onlyfans we no longer date. Where she reacted on but why? he basically just states it flat out, because i don't wanna date or marry a whore. She was shocked by his view about it and basically it felt like she realized at that point what profession she was really in. Where he moved further on the subject and basically stated i know you before onlyfans and frankly u where quiet and innocent and now u are on full display on some website for sexworkers. her eyes spoke a million words after hearing that.

Its the brainwashing attitude of young kids. That pimping yourself out with sex is "hot and great and u are smart if you do it".

Onlyfans can continou with it for all i care, but they need to rebrand the site towards something that clearly indicates what they are sexworkers and put it behind labels where people specifically know where they are looking at.

I also think twitch is a huge problem on this aspect, i personally feel like twitch needs to be far more aggressive in culling those girls away from there platform as young kids are all over it. And its damaging and its bad for a lot of them to push into that direction. Twitch can make a section or even another website with "sexworkersstreamlive.com" or something and honestly i wouldn't care. the same way as with onlyfans.

 

[Nobody_Important]

This entire thread reminds me of this.

 

[oagboghi2]

The problem i have with those sites is that they are misleading in what they are selling. And brainwashing and recruiting young woman that are cleuless into becoming sex workers.

Onlyfans sounds like a fan website where people can track the lives from said person. more like somekind of facebook but with more information about the artist or the person u follow, like house tours etc.

But the reality is, that its just a coverup site for sex workers a place that does nothing else then sell porn for consumption.

What i find incredible damaging for young girls is that they get introduced in somekind of sex workers training camp that brainwashed them into being straight up sex workers. Some chick from onlyfans was actually talking about this a while ago where she stated that 2 years before she started she didn't really though she would be going to such extents but because she got introduced into twitch then from twitch into grinding more "subs" for success and everybody being happy for her + competition to the point she moved over to only fans and standing naked making pictures of herself and video's in all ways in order to create more money and success and respect from the shitshow of people around her. It started with talking cute into a mic but ended up her stripping down and make sexual pictures of herself naked not long after.

That's the problem.

It's all hip and great and cool and edgy until u realize u are basically a sex worker. I was watching mizkif a while ago about it and one of those chicks from onlyfans was at his place. she basically stated that his girlfriend should also make a account because she could make a lot of money there. ( and there you go, active recruiting ). He basically reacted that's impossible, because if she makes a account on onlyfans we no longer date. Where she reacted on but why? he basically just states it flat out, because i don't wanna date or marry a whore. She was shocked by his view about it and basically it felt like she realized at that point what profession she was really in. Where he moved further on the subject and basically stated i know you before onlyfans and frankly u where quiet and innocent and now u are on full display on some website for sexworkers. her eyes spoke a million words after hearing that.

Its the brainwashing attitude of young kids. That pimping yourself out with sex is "hot and great and u are smart if you do it".

Onlyfans can continou with it for all i care, but they need to rebrand the site towards something that clearly indicates what they are sexworkers and put it behind labels where people specifically know where they are looking at.

I also think twitch is a huge problem on this aspect, i personally feel like twitch needs to be far more aggressive in culling those girls away from there platform as young kids are all over it. And its damaging and its bad for a lot of them to push into that direction. Twitch can make a section or even another website with "sexworkersstreamlive.com" or something and honestly i wouldn't care. the same way as with onlyfans.

The funny thing I remember before onlyfans went live is they represented themselves as place for celebrities, not porn stars.

I think after the launched and saw porn got all the engagement, they decided to ignore it. Celebrities ignored the platform, obviously, and it slowly became what it is now.

 

[YCoCg]

I'm talking about OF. You want to cry for sex workers.

Why waste my time with this crypto comparison when you know it makes no sense.


Simp logic



"Company makes money, therefore it's okay to say stupid shit, because money is magic."

Hiring more people doesn't make it easier to moderate a platform. Companies multiple times the size of OF deal with user submitted content, and many of them have policies like zero-tolerance for porn, sex workers, beastiality, etc etc to mitigate the issue.

OF could waste a ton of money and resources to moderate a platform, and likely lose the investors they need to stay operational, or they could just do what youtube and other companies do, and have a zero tolerance policy for porn and prostitutes.


As I said from the very start, if this is the case, than the sex workers should make this market, develop it and run it themselves. Are they? Not from what i see. It seems like most of them are crying on twitter.

So either they are incompetent, or...their actually isn't that big of a market demand for this. Either way, this isn't "Christians" or "evil banks". It's people having to face market reality. If you sell vice, the inflated profit margins come with drawbacks. In this case, instability

Good grief you're so set in your ways you come across as retarded, I remember why most ignore you.

 

[jshackles]

Onlyfans can continou with it for all i care, but they need to rebrand the site towards something that clearly indicates what they are sexworkers and put it behind labels where people specifically know where they are looking at.

I also think twitch is a huge problem on this aspect, i personally feel like twitch needs to be far more aggressive in culling those girls away from there platform as young kids are all over it. And its damaging and its bad for a lot of them to push into that direction. Twitch can make a section or even another website with "sexworkersstreamlive.com" or something and honestly i wouldn't care. the same way as with onlyfans.

The problem is, it's usually in the company's best interest to foster these types of "talent" rather than labeling them appropriately. Twitch, in particular, makes a huge amount of money from thots and seems Onlyfans does as well (obviously). Onlyfans just flew too close to the sun in this regard, and they're getting burned. Twitch is in the corner, furiously taking notes.

 

[nush]

Its the brainwashing attitude of young kids. That pimping yourself out with sex is "hot and great and u are smart if you do it".

And then they'll end up in the trap of getting so used to that much "Easy" income and start to have a lifestyle based on that income. Then they have no skills or experiance to do any other job but a low level one, that they don't want to do. So the only thing left is to keep on camming until they are dead inside, become too old to maintain an audience outside of a few die hard fans.

 

[Kenpachii]

The funny thing I remember before onlyfans went live is they represented themselves as place for celebrities, not porn stars.

I think after the launched and saw porn got all the engagement, they decided to ignore it. Celebrities ignored the platform, obviously, and it slowly became what it is now.

The name suggests exactly that, but the reality its a cover up for sex workers and i only found that out when some streamer was talking about it as i didn't even know about the website. then suddenly a lot of girls on twitch where talking about doing onlyfans because it made them so much more money so much more quicker so i instantly knew it was probably some kind of cover up for sex workers. Which after that encounter with mizkif on his stream was confirmed not soon after it.

The problem is, it's usually in the company's best interest to foster these types of "talent" rather than labeling them appropriately. Twitch, in particular, makes a huge amount of money from thots and seems Onlyfans does as well (obviously). Onlyfans just flew too close to the sun in this regard, and they're getting burned. Twitch is in the corner, furiously taking notes.

I don't think twitch makes much money from them, they support them because they don't want to piss off progressives and get female representatives on there websites.

Those sex workers use twitch to advertise themselves to younger audiences under the scope of "gaming" we have seen this for a long time now. Twitch on this front is nothing but a recruitment office for potential new sex workers that get kids brainwashed into making it normal and acceptable. The whole culture with those "thotts" is builded on it. They recruit eachother ( as i mentioned before ) and hit themselves on the shoulder for doing a good job by looking at amount of income they generate in a fast note and create a group of people around them that all push themselves futher under the idea they are "succesful business woman" but the reality is they are just sex workers.

We have people called loverboys in my country and there are entire classes dedicated for girls to be informed in schools about these loverboys and how to avoid them. And what twitch and special only fans do is exactly what a loverboy does.

Let me explain what a loverboy does.

They start to date a girl and give her presents and talk highly about her and basically make her feel super special and flatter her at every chance they get, they will isolate them from there family's and basically give them somekind of complex where they feel like they own that loverboy something. She will soon be entangled in all kinds of shit which results in pimping herself out and be stuck forever in this solution until she ends herself at some point.

And before people think, she can just you know get out of it right and talk to her parents? think again. these people are insanely good at mentally destroying those people's to the point they feel like they can't do anything else but do what those loverboys want or else the only option is suicide.

This is the exact same shit i see on twitch with "oh u just gotta show a bit more of yourself if u want more subs you know", "just bend over and make some sexual sound so he will pay a bit more, its all fun". Oh look your sub count is going u are doing great!!, want to do a a pool stream, its going to be great its just like going to a pool but 15k virigns watching you. then just slip a nipple so u will get even more subs!!!!. Hey u know what is better? lets go to only fans and just make pictures of yourself so much easier!!! and it pays even more, u are such a succesful business woman, u are the person i want to have as "super friend' we are best friends forever!.

Some girls know what world they are walking in, A LOT OF THEM don't and they will get mentally fucked or ruin there lifes because there community's don't appreciate a whore in the family.

U readed the story about that bliz chick with her vagina right?, that killed herself? yea there you go.

And then they'll end up in the trap of getting so used to that much "Easy" income and start to have a lifestyle based on that income. Then they have no skills or experiance to do any other job but a low level one, that they don't want to do. So the only thing left is to keep on camming until they are dead inside, become too old to maintain an audience outside of a few die hard fans.

And that's the problem. They probably tell there parents some bullshit story, they probably have a mortgage that is super high because income is high on that moment, and they have friends that they can't pay as they are in a far higher pay grade and realize they need to move to the next level because otherwise there world is going to implode. And all there fake friends leave them after onlyfans goes black, financial bankrupt, and the shame to move back towards your parents and telling your parents the succesful bright modern woman is a failure.

Welcome to porn. Then there family finds out and its depression / killing themselves / world implodes whatever else / cutting themselves etc etc.

It's always the same shit.

 

[nush]

Some girls know what world they are walking in, A LOT OF THEM don't and they will get mentally fucked or ruin there lifes because there community's don't appreciate a whore in the family.

See this is where actual escorts are smarter. Discretion, they are not blasting their identity and video of themselves all over the internet. If they have a website it's common to see covered or blurred faces, and they won't be livestreaming as session with you. It takes a strong mind, good support network and "Crowd control" skills to do that work long term.

Girls that started in their 20's and stay in it quite often get burnout before they hit 30. Those that come into the game later already have the life and relationship skills to deal and the money earned goes on sensible adult things and not the latest smartphone.

 

[haxan7]

The lack of images in this thread is disturbing.

 

[KielCasto]

As OnlyFans abandons sex workers, here’s who is filling the void

Sex workers don’t buy OnlyFans’ reasons for banning porn. They’re abandoning the site in droves, opting for porn providers that promise they won’t do the same.

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In the last four days, thousands of sex workers have created new accounts at JustFor.fans, applied for identity verification and flooded the porn site's customer service inbox. JustFor.fans, often called the second-choice streaming site for OnlyFans creators, saw its server traffic jump more than three times its average (and stay there) after OnlyFans announced it would be banning pornography (what it calls "sexually explicit conduct") beginning in October.

Life sexually explicit content, uh, finds a way

 

[yet_another_alt]

I started reading the title of the poll and thought it was going to be about allowing porn in OT. I'm now seriously disappointed.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

This entire thread reminds me of this.

I'm surprised you're not up in arms about this.

 

[Amory]

when people insist on constantly challenging all societal norms, soon enough you're going to get to "i'm young and hot, why not just sell nudes? it pays well"

Personally, while I think this is a somewhat shortsighted and naive mentality, I also think women of legal age should be able to sell nudes to simps and make money off of it. but the platform owner has to take responsibility for making sure that a) nothing illegal is happening and b) that young people understand that they're signing on to be a sex worker, and what it actually means to become a sex worker.

I'm sure even the creators of OnlyFans never dreamed that the platform would become as big as it has, and so of course they didn't expect to have this much attention from regulators and law enforcement and politicians and whoever else. they grew too much too quickly.

 

[Star-Lord]

I'm sure even the creators of OnlyFans never dreamed that the platform would become as big as it has, and so of course they didn't expect to have this much attention from regulators and law enforcement and politicians and whoever else. they grew too much too quickly.

This is what I don't get. From what I've read about OnlyFans, and having viewed numerous profiles on a research basis, the website is extremely strict where it comes to ensuring members are of legal age, with stringent ID checks in place. As long as these checks take place, and I believe they do, then I see no reason for law enforcement to get involved. And as far as politicians getting involved goes, they're probably subscribed to a load of them anyway.

 

[Amory]

This is what I don't get. From what I've read about OnlyFans, and having viewed numerous profiles on a research basis, the website is extremely strict where it comes to ensuring members are of legal age, with stringent ID checks in place. As long as these checks take place, and I believe they do, then I see no reason for law enforcement to get involved. And as far as politicians getting involved goes, they're probably subscribed to a load of them anyway.

It's not just ensuring legal age, that's the minimum bar to clear. And I'm not an expert on OnlyFans, so I have no idea how good a job they do with even that. For example f you're a channel creator and you have other people in your videos, is everyone's age verified every time? How does the platform manage all this?

But there's also the concern of exploitation. On a platform that big, and with everyone essentially acting as an independent contractor, how do you know that people aren't being coerced into participation?

Even if OF were to overhaul their rules and become far more stringent, I get why payers just don't want to deal with it. What are people going to do, cut up their credit cards in protest?

 

[Nobody_Important]

I'm surprised you're not up in arms about this.

Why would I be? I just find it a bit odd.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Why would I be? I just find it a bit odd.

Are you not pro-sex worker?

 

[Nobody_Important]

Are you not pro-sex worker?

I am? But I don't see what that has to do with this? If I'm understanding the situation correctly they are not removing all adult content from the site they are just removing stuff like sex scenes and things like that. But adult photo shoots and things like that are still allowed as I understand it?

 

[Star-Lord]

I am? But I don't see what that has to do with this? If I'm understanding the situation correctly they are not removing all adult content from the site they are just removing stuff like sex scenes and things like that. But adult photo shoots and things like that are still allowed as I understand it?

That's what I'm getting from it, too, but I still don't understand why. If nude photographs are being given the OK, why not nude scenes? I know nude photography can be seen as art, but so can a classy sex scene. I don't think it will be too long before we see OnlyFans going back on their decision to ban porn.

 

[nush]

I know nude photography can be seen as art, but so can a classy sex scene.

Legally define "Classy", that's why.

 

[yet_another_alt]

Legally define "Classy", that's why.

I bet if captchas are replaced with porn instead of pictures of fire hydrants, traffic lights or crosswalks and they tell you to pick which one is classy an AI can eventually be trained to define what classy is.

 

[haxan7]

Legally define "Classy"

the woman fucks the man in the ass, jizzes on his face, pushes him to the ground, stands on his chest with one foot and says "That'll teach you to vote for Trump!" in every scene.

 

[nush]

the woman fucks the man in the ass, jizzes on his face, pushes him to the ground, stands on his chest with one foot and says "That'll teach you to vote for Trump!" in every scene.

How does a woman jizz? Unless jizz mean whizz where you're from.

In America fanny means your ass not your minge...

 

[haxan7]

How does a woman jizz? Unless jizz mean whizz where you're from.

In America fanny means your ass not your minge...

Her dildo she's using has a tube to shoot fluids out with a pump

 

[nush]

Her dildo she's using has a tube to shoot fluids out with a pump

 

[The Pleasure]

There goes my suck and cluck buisness (toe sucking whilst a chicken watches on..admiringly) made £5000 so far.

Are you rich from Reviewtech usa sucking toes while Carlos watches?

 

[haxan7]

Are you Rich from Reviewtech usa sucking toes while Carlos watches?

Sometimes the extra effort to hit the shift key is worth it.

 

[The Pleasure]

Sometimes the extra effort to hit the shift key is worth it.

That r is RED. Are you a COMMUNIST?!

 

[haxan7]

That r is RED. Are you a COMMUNIST?!

I already admitted I am multiple times. Don't make me get the receipts.

 

[The Pleasure]

I already admitted I am multiple times. Don't make me get the receipts.

Oh my God, Timmy! haxan7 has Fairy God Parents!

 

[haxan7]

Oh my God, Timmy! haxan7 has Fairy God Parents!

 

[Vaelka]

It's kinda disappointing imo to see so many people defending this just because they have some weird misplaced hate towards these women for really no reason.
Do we really feel comfortable letting banks dictate this stuff?


It's just opening pandora's box.
Banks shouldn't be sitting around moralizing about what content is and isn't allowed and what someone spends their money on.
The only exception to this would be if it was actually illegal shit.

I can understand that some of the content is something Onlyfans wouldn't want to be associated with, like people who clearly are posing as underage to try and cater to that garbage or people who immitate sexual violence.
A good example of that is Bell Delphine some of the shit she has been doing is pretty fucked up.
But it's also very different than someone sucking off a dildo or showing their breasts.

Edit: I do agree to some extent that the website is misleading in its marketing.
I just think that's the usual marketing bullshit tho, even a lot of game studios do this when they localize Asian games they hide the sexualized content to make it more '' America friendly ''.

Onlyfans should stop pretending that they're about cooking and for gym instructors etc.
But while it's true that sex sells, sex is also seen as extremely marketing unfriendly in America ( and it bleeds over into Europe too ).
Imo Onlyfans can still be about everything still, but they shouldn't act like sex work isn't on their website and a major part of it.

 

[nush]

some weird misplaced hate towards these women for really no reason.

There's that bulletpoint again. It's lazy and ignorant and an easy out to avoid the real points, probably the majority are making without having to address them yourself.

 

[GymWolf]

I never been on onlyfans because, well, porn is freely available. Anyway, I was on Twitch looking for Metro Exodus gameplay when I noticed a vid of some girl in a bikini. So fuck yeah, I clicked on it to see some ass and was kind of amazed to hear this whore yapping about doctors and medical professionals. Then I saw the chat function so I read some of that, and it was these guys agreeing and giving their opinions. I was kind of amazed. There's a whore in her bikini, live on camera and yet none of the viewers were telling her to shut up and shake her tits, which I assume is her job. It's kind of crazy. So I clicked on another whore. That one was yapping about whatever nonsense filled her head, so I told her to shut up and shake her tits. Message didn't even get posted because of some filter. What is going on here. There's literal whores not shaking their tits, lying around yapping about insurance policies, while guys just agree with their nonsense. You can't even tell these whores to do their job. This is why America is failing. Nobody wants to work.

That's highly offensive...for the real whores who actually do their job.

 

[Winter John]

That's highly offensive...for the real whores who actually do their job.

I've got nothing but respect for real whores. I like whores. I've even dated a few. Granted, many of them weren't aware they were whores, but if it looks like a fish and acts like a fish, then it's probably a fish

 

[Bullet Club]

The porn is staying.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

The porn is staying.

Money talks. Good for the whores.

 

[McCheese]

Welp, I got a bunch of job interviews to cancel then.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

The porn is staying.

 

[Star-Lord]

The porn is staying.

It was only a matter of time. Surely they realised that banning porn from their platform would reduce traffic by at least 99%. It's akin to Pornhub banning porn from their site. It just made no sense. Either way, the porn remains; women can continue to liberate themselves, men can continue to fap, and Danielle Bregoli remains relevant for another day. Everybody wins.

 

[YCoCg]

The porn is staying.

We realised we indeed shot ourselves in the foot once it was bleeding and there was pain, so, we've decided to not do that again.

 

[Nobody_Important]

The porn is staying.

 

[supernova8]

We realised we indeed shot ourselves in the foot once it was bleeding and there was pain, so, we've decided to not do that again.

banks were probably like "we do not agree with handling your dirty sex money, make it go away" and OnlyFans was like "literally all of it is dirty sex money... do you want those loans fucking repaid or not?"

 

[Outlier]

Oh no... Lazy people will have to actually be productive members of society. Anyway...

Honestly. Many of the workers complaining about this are literally complaining that they have to look to new avenues for EASY living. They will only last as long as they look good, so even if they do go somewhere else, they're still on a timer.

 

[YCoCg]

Oh no... Lazy people will have to actually be productive members of society. Anyway...

Honestly. Many of the workers complaining about this are literally complaining that they have to look to new avenues for EASY living. They will only last as long as they look good, so even if they do go somewhere else, they're still on a timer.

Read the update, OF's value crashed after announcing this and suddenly they've had a change of heart and have said they're not banning it anymore. Maybe now they'll put some real effort into moderation.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I was kind of looking forward to the chaos of thousands of onlyfans workers let loose upon the internet.

 

[YCoCg]

I was kind of looking forward to the chaos of thousands of onlyfans workers let loose upon the internet.

A large amount have moved to JustFor.Fans and others had gone to LoyalFans? Which caused OF to crash in value, they just hurt themselves in the end.

 

[oagboghi2]

banks were probably like "we do not agree with handling your dirty sex money, make it go away" and OnlyFans was like "literally all of it is dirty sex money... do you want those loans fucking repaid or not?"

Pretty much.

Read the update, OF's value crashed after announcing this and suddenly they've had a change of heart and have said they're not banning it anymore. Maybe now they'll put some real effort into moderation.

You're still going on about this?

 

[Larlight]

The statement sounds temporary. Like we aren't banning it... yet. We just need to make sure we can find a way to get our money and run when the ban happens again. Or they're going to work on making OF a more public platform for nonsexual content through pr and updates before they fully go all out with the ban.

 

[haxan7]

They probably lost a lot of their hoes already.