• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Bungie Devs Say Atmosphere Is ‘Soul-Crushing’ Amid Layoffs, Cuts, and Fear of Total Sony Takeover - IGN

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?

As it currently stands, Bungie is (on paper) a fully independent subsidiary of Sony. But its board of directors has been divided since the takeover in July of 2022. Among its current members are PlayStation Studios head Hermen Hulst, Sony senior VP Eric Lempel, Bungie co-founder Jason Jones, Bungie CTO Luis Villegas, and Bungie CEO Pete Parsons. The board as a whole is split between Sony and Bungie representatives, with Parsons serving as a tiebreaker vote. But speaking to IGN under condition of anonymity, multiple current and former Bungie employees described a department meeting that took place shortly after the layoffs, in which leaders hinted that this shared power may not last forever.
“We know we need Final Shape to do well,” one source told IGN. “And the feeling at the studio is that if it doesn’t we’re definitely looking at more layoffs.”
While the exact details of Sony’s deal to acquire Bungie remain unknown to the public or employees, sources say they were told by leaders that the current split board structure is contingent on Bungie meeting certain financial goals. If Bungie falls short of its revenue goals by too great an amount, Sony is allowed to dissolve the existing board and take full control of the company
Along with the recent layoffs, this has resulted in a massive decay in morale within the company, according to IGN’s sources, one of whom told us that the mood within the studio has been “soul-crushing” over the last month. And it doesn’t sound like management is making any significant efforts toward improving the atmosphere, either
“We know we need Final Shape to do well,” one source told IGN. “And the feeling at the studio is that if it doesn’t we’re definitely looking at more layoffs.”
"I’m angry. I’m upset. This isn’t what I came here to do,” one person said. “It feels like many higher ups aren’t listening to the data and are like, ‘We just need to win our fans back, they still like us.’ No. They don’t...We got rid of some of our most knowledgeable beloved folks who have been here for 20+ years. Everyday I walk in afraid that I or my friends are next. No one is safe."
Multiple current employees confirmed to IGN that the company has implemented numerous other cost-cutting measures recently, including a studio-wide hiring freeze, reduced travel budgets, elimination of holiday bonuses, keeping its annual Bungie Day virtual, delaying its weeklong company “Pentathalon” event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly. Bungie is also pausing or fully ending benefits like annual employee compensation adjustments to meet market rates, its new hire lunch program, employee donation matching, its peer recognition program, and gift cards for employees birthdays. And yearly studio performance bonuses this year will only be the contractually obligated 80% minimum, after being above 100% for good performance several previous years running.
 
Last edited:
"complete Sony takeover" = actually being successful and having job security

DE&I clubs hit hard
crushed noo GIF
 
Last edited:


I mean...Sony will never let Bungie flop like this. Not after spending all the money they did on them.
The tweet makes it seem that if Bungie hits a certain low, Sony may have the right to take over the company.

At this point...that's probably for the best.

6 months ago Bungie was approving PS Studio games...now they fear Sony taking over them, lmao.
 

Tsaki

Member
"...delaying its weeklong company “Pentathalon” event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly. Bungie is also pausing or fully ending benefits like annual employee compensation adjustments to meet market rates, its new hire lunch program, employee donation matching, its peer recognition program, and gift cards for employees birthdays."
“soul-crushing”
"Others laid off included a noticeable number of members of Bungie’s DE&I clubs, including co-heads of Pride@Bungie, Women@Bungie, and Accessibility@Bungie. When combined with other recent resource cuts, these dismissals have led to fears these clubs might be shut down."

Goddamn living life on Easy Mode when having less knitting classes can be soul crushing.
Seems Bungie leadership is cutting the excess fat (or let's be real, the obesity) that has accumulated over the past decade.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
All these GAAS will inevitably die when your core launch audience just grow up and start dealing with life outside of gaming.

They have an inbuilt demographic termination switch.

Tell that to all the GAAS games that are bigger than ever 6, 7, 8+ years after launch.
 

Bojanglez

The Amiga Brotherhood
The article seems like it is desperate to link the fact that Sony people are on the board with the atmosphere
Along with the recent layoffs, this has resulted in a massive decay in morale within the company, according to IGN’s sources, one of whom told us that the mood within the studio has been “soul-crushing” over the last month. And it doesn’t sound like management is making any significant efforts toward improving the atmosphere, either
But I can't see any quotes from the employees that reference that specifically

"I’m angry. I’m upset. This isn’t what I came here to do,”
No, you came to make games presumably, so get on with it and stop whinging.

I understand layoffs are worrying, but as an employee all you can do is knuckle down and do the best you can to make the next release a success. I'm not sure whinging about meetings to the press is going to help morale or productivity.
 
Fucking hell, some of you here must live life real hard in the dumps and have the worst fucking jobs ever. I hope you never have the opportunity to manage people or take on a role in leadership because some of the takes are terrible.

These benefits and perks make up a lot of what makes it worth working for a company. At the end of the day, it's about making money, enjoying what you do and being happy in the job. If Bungie start taking away all that stuff, it's going to have a negative impact and morale is going to drop. It's not rocket science and this industry is in a state where working for AAA companies is awful.

Have a bit of compassion people, even if Destiny 2 is shit and Bungie aren't the same company now.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
It seems that Bungie oldtimers have trouble adjusting to the reality that beggars can't be choosers. They act like Sony needs Bungie more than Bungie needs Sony. When sales are falling 45% below projections fat has to be trimmed and that's exactly what Bungie management seems to be doing.

Multiple current employees confirmed to IGN that the company has implemented numerous other cost-cutting measures recently, including a studio-wide hiring freeze, reduced travel budgets, elimination of holiday bonuses, keeping its annual Bungie Day virtual, delaying its weeklong company “Pentathalon” event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly. Bungie is also pausing or fully ending benefits like annual employee compensation adjustments to meet market rates, its new hire lunch program, employee donation matching, its peer recognition program, and gift cards for employees birthdays. And yearly studio performance bonuses this year will only be the contractually obligated 80% minimum, after being above 100% for good performance several previous years running.

How the fuck can you complain about employee frustration and sadness about fewer knittling classes or no more new hire lunch program when the alternative was to sack even more people? Be glad that the vast majority at Bungie still has a job while their GAAS is finally cratering.
 

SEGAvangelist

Gold Member
Missed a big part:

Multiple current employees confirmed to IGN that the company has implemented numerous other cost-cutting measures recently, including a studio-wide hiring freeze, reduced travel budgets, elimination of holiday bonuses, keeping its annual Bungie Day virtual, delaying its weeklong company “Pentathalon” event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly. Bungie is also pausing or fully ending benefits like annual employee compensation adjustments to meet market rates, its new hire lunch program, employee donation matching, its peer recognition program, and gift cards for employees birthdays. And yearly studio performance bonuses this year will only be the contractually obligated 80% minimum, after being above 100% for good performance several previous years running.

No way Sony holds on to their best talent with shit like this happening. Bungie is imploding.

How the fuck can you complain about employee frustration and sadness about fewer knittling classes or no more new hire lunch program when the alternative was to sack even more people? Be glad that the vast majority at Bungie still has a job while their GAAS is finally cratering.
All you got from that quote I also posted was knitting classes and lunch?
 
Last edited:

Lupin25

Member
Seeing what’s happening with Destiny now, Bungie probably oversold themselves from (Sony’s pov) in an effort to acquire funding, while somehow maintaining full autonomy.

Plus the wait between The Final Shape & Marathon will be excruciating. Sony has to step in soon, this is going to spiral.
 
Last edited:
While the exact details of Sony’s deal to acquire Bungie remain unknown to the public or employees, sources say they were told by leaders that the current split board structure is contingent on Bungie meeting certain financial goals. If Bungie falls short of its revenue goals by too great an amount, Sony is allowed to dissolve the existing board and take full control of the company.
Missed this part. So seems like Sony could end up with Bungie altogether. Holy shit. Now that's a development...
 

MiguelItUp

Member
Yeah, I've been in a similar environment and it isn't fun. It's really frustrating when heads expect a studio to function as if nothing happened even though staff was let go, and numerous cuts are being made.

I can understand that they WANT it to function as it did, but I mean, come on man, if your studio is successful and the employees have a great relationship with one another, what do you expect to happen? Especially when it's extremely knowledgeable employees.

Cutting out key employees is surely going to affect the flow of things and the development of a project. Especially if those employees have worked together in their roles for several years. You can't just remove people, or move them around, and suddenly expect things to be the way they were right before the layoffs, or better than before.

EDIT: I feel awful for the devs there, especially because they're not the ones at the helm of all this. Or anywhere near it. They're just working for a studio that they love, on IPs they love and enjoy. That probably mean a lot to them. The heads and shot callers at the top of the studio clearly don't make great decisions.
 
Last edited:
That’s what happens when you sell your soul to the devil…. Not only did they sell to Microsoft first, they we’re actually able to get out of that contract, yeah with a severed arm but they were able to do it.
Then they partner up with the devils henchmen Activision, in all impossible odds their able to break that 10 year contract….. only to allow themselves to be gobbled up by the devil again…..
3 strikes and your out Bungie, they will be assimilated into a Sony 1st party team, developing games specifically for Sony hardware in due time….

I just can’t feel sorry for them… sorry, not sorry..
 

Draugoth

Gold Member
So let me get this straight.Bungie bought their independence from Microsoft, making statements that they would be better off on their own, only to sell themselves to Activision, to then buy themselves out again, to make more statements about how they would be better off on their own, to then sell themselves to Sony….

Time is a flat circle I guess.
 
"...delaying its weeklong company “Pentathalon” event to next December, and reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly. Bungie is also pausing or fully ending benefits like annual employee compensation adjustments to meet market rates, its new hire lunch program, employee donation matching, its peer recognition program, and gift cards for employees birthdays."
“soul-crushing”
"Others laid off included a noticeable number of members of Bungie’s DE&I clubs, including co-heads of Pride@Bungie, Women@Bungie, and Accessibility@Bungie. When combined with other recent resource cuts, these dismissals have led to fears these clubs might be shut down."

Goddamn living life on Easy Mode when having less knitting classes can be soul crushing.
Seems Bungie leadership is cutting the excess fat (or let's be real, the obesity) that has accumulated over the past decade.

I work with over 50+ companies in my area. This is happening to companies in all industries pretty much. I think O&G is still doing good though. People are losing their yearly bonuses from what I'm seeing. My own company had decreased bonuses in all forms by quite a bit.
 
Destiny is kind of played out at this point?

That's the thing. Even GAAS have an expiry date. And unless you can pull off the transition into the next thing, the studio suffers death from a thousand cuts.

So does something like Fortnite, and that's why the massive platform expansion from Epic.

That's on top of new GAAS releasing, and so people are incentivized to try other things.

Nothing's really changed, and it's business as usual.
 
Last edited:

Dane

Member
Fucking hell, some of you here must live life real hard in the dumps and have the worst fucking jobs ever. I hope you never have the opportunity to manage people or take on a role in leadership because some of the takes are terrible.

These benefits and perks make up a lot of what makes it worth working for a company. At the end of the day, it's about making money, enjoying what you do and being happy in the job. If Bungie start taking away all that stuff, it's going to have a negative impact and morale is going to drop. It's not rocket science and this industry is in a state where working for AAA companies is awful.

Have a bit of compassion people, even if Destiny 2 is shit and Bungie aren't the same company now.
Because the benefit priority should be with first line necessities such as healthcare, dentist plans, and public transport passes, a secondary line is free lunch, anything else is regarded as luxury that will be cut in times of need to save jobs.
 
Top Bottom