Elder Legend
Banned
It was also based on an old IP and is a remake of an old game. Not everything is apples and apples dude. I don't get why people compare apples to oranges all the time. It's really dumb lol.
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Callisto Protocol dev Striking Distance senior staff getting axed
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kunonabi
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Unless she plays a different character that isn't a gigantic bitch I doubt that. She made that game such a grating chore.
Hugare
Member
I loved the game, but giving $160 M for a new IP from a new studio is a bold move. Borderline stupid, but I admire the courage (that didnt pay off, of course)
Its something that just doesnt happen in the industry (for obvious reasons). This game was an unicorn, and I love it for it.
Dont know what Krafton was smoking when they greenlit it, but thank God for that.
When I saw the reception, I immediately thought "well, they are fucked". They would have to downscale badly, in devs and budget, and thats what happening.
Its something that just doesnt happen in the industry (for obvious reasons). This game was an unicorn, and I love it for it.
Dont know what Krafton was smoking when they greenlit it, but thank God for that.
When I saw the reception, I immediately thought "well, they are fucked". They would have to downscale badly, in devs and budget, and thats what happening.
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TheDuskwalker
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I feel like they saw sales figures of RE2 Remake and RE7 and thought those were now the norm, not the exception.
Obviously. My wording should have been better. I was looking at it as Callisto's budget would probably be around today's equivalent as DS2's budget back then. My comparison was more in that they went into making Callisto with the idea that it would sale just as good, better actually, as Dead Space in its prime just because of the dev name attached, so a budget of well over double DS2's would be fine, when they should have went in with a more modest approach for there first game.
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violence
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Edited. I was saying the dead space remake didn’t look as good as Callisto protocol. I am only pointing this out because it may explain why the budget was so high. The game clearly had talent on the team, which probably wasn’t cheap.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It doesn’t matter. Dead space was top of the line whe. It released. Just as Callisto is now.
simpatico
Member
Game should have been so much better. The art assets were there, but the combat design was just a bonehead move. No one is going to space to melee a bunch of cosmic horrors. Let us shoot off some limbs. It was 60% of the fun of Dead Space. Having a giant blob zombie tap me on the shoulder, pause for a few seconds only to square up for a boxing match just pulled me out of it. They were stun baton sponges too. Encounters took too long and provided little challenge once the dance starts. Remaster this mofo with a laser cutter gun and a quick decap machete and I'll jump back in.
As a Dead Space homage, the design doc is already there. Every step they took off the path was 2 steps back. Should have been really simple. Just do a Dead Space version of Mighty No. 9 or Bloodstained.
As a Dead Space homage, the design doc is already there. Every step they took off the path was 2 steps back. Should have been really simple. Just do a Dead Space version of Mighty No. 9 or Bloodstained.
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Elder Legend
Banned
Ahh I see. My apologies. I didn't play the remake of DS but based of visual footage it looked quite good for a remake. And yes, I agree that Callisto looked better, they really did go out of their way to push visuals. It's a very solid looking game I just wish the melee combat wasn't so clunky. Really unfortunate and I kind of want a sequel but I fear it may not happen now
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I don't understand how this studio was even able to make such an expensive game. Who funded it?
Morrie’s wig shop
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Some real estate mogul, with a passion for space horror video games…… I’m only kidding but I feel like it’s not far from that lol
Buggy Loop
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$162 M on a studio’s first title? DAFUQ? Don’t care if guy worked on Dead Space, who the fuck financed that?
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
A lot of money spent on a game that had inferior combat to Dead Space.
violence
Member
Looks like PUBG money did. So they are going to continue without the big money veteran talent.$162 M on a studio’s first title? DAFUQ? Don’t care if guy worked on Dead Space, who the fuck financed that?
Low Moral Fibre
Member
I enjoyed Callisto Protocol but playing it felt like being the second person in the last round of Family Feud where all the best answers were already taken. Like they didn’t want to carbon copy Dead Space so they took everything and made it different but also worse.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
I've seen worse boss chicks as playable characters in modern games, at least she's attractive by heterosexual standards.
Mr.Phoenix
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$162M?
These are just bad choices to me. They should have focused on one platform, and get some sort of marketing or publishing deal. Release the game first, protect themselves. Then if it does well, make it for other platforms a year or so later.
These are just bad choices to me. They should have focused on one platform, and get some sort of marketing or publishing deal. Release the game first, protect themselves. Then if it does well, make it for other platforms a year or so later.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
They sold 2M with a shit game and good marketing.
They would’ve sold 5 million easy if it was good and on the same level as Dead Space 1&2. All the hype was there… and launched a joke PC version and the combat, lack of enemy variety , etc destroyed the game word of mouth.
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Weird posts.
If you ask for a massive budget to make a high production value AAA game and spend a ton on marketing, the folks funding the game expect to see a return on their investment.
Perhaps they should have set their sights on a more modest goal for their first game?
Only a relatively small portion of the budget would have gone into making it multiplatform. Nobody does high value marketing deals for a new IP from a new studio.
R6Rider
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Forspoken came out this year.
ZehDon
Gold Member
Sad to see, given the enormous potential here.
The game has exceptional presentation - with Ray Tracing, it's legitimately some of the best real-time graphics I've ever seen. However, the core combat model breaks the moment there's more than one enemy - and that's about 70% of the game. If they fixed up the combat and hired some decent writers, they'd have a solid series moving forward. Fingers crossed they get that chance.
The game has exceptional presentation - with Ray Tracing, it's legitimately some of the best real-time graphics I've ever seen. However, the core combat model breaks the moment there's more than one enemy - and that's about 70% of the game. If they fixed up the combat and hired some decent writers, they'd have a solid series moving forward. Fingers crossed they get that chance.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
To be fair, top management probably gave unachievable projections.
DaGwaphics
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I think a lot of these publishers/developers have just lost the plot in regards to sales expectations, budgets, etc. When you reach a point where 60 or 70% of everything released is viewed as a "disappointment" it might be time to rethink what the market is.
SpearFist
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I liked callisto protocol but it was weaker than dead space. And shinji mikami actually made another survival horror masterpiece with evil within 1.
Mr Hyde
Member
The Evil Within was the shit. I even platinumed it. It should have been the start off a long and successful franchise, but I guess two games are better than nothing.
Hudo
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DId he really say that? Because he also said that he's pursuing fewer but bigger first-party releases. Which would contradict that.
FeastYoEyes
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Survival horror thrives on variety in enemies and environments to keep you on your toes and the experience interesting. This need can be lessened if the story or characters are interesting, if the gameplay is amazing. It had none of the above in my opinion.
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YeulEmeralda
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I think the original Dead Space did something like that back in the day and EA was unhappy with it.
Vox Machina
Banned
Yeah, as part of the MSFT/ABK merger he said that if CoD left the Playstation platform then they would be unable to even continue business
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Of all the people to layoff, you don't let your senior peeps go.
Layoffs are shit regardless, but letting your most senior staff go only hurts the studios' prospects in the long term. The only exception would be senior middle managers that largely sit around all day doing fuck all and twiddling the mouse every now and again to prevent MS Teams from showing them as away from their desks.
Layoffs are shit regardless, but letting your most senior staff go only hurts the studios' prospects in the long term. The only exception would be senior middle managers that largely sit around all day doing fuck all and twiddling the mouse every now and again to prevent MS Teams from showing them as away from their desks.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
You open a Notepad and place espresso cup on a spacebar. Works flawlessly.
Bartski
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The Callisto Protocol Developer Striking Distance Suffers Over 30 Layoffs
The layoffs come shortly after the launch of the game's story DLC.
www.gameinformer.com
yurinka
Member
Source? As I remember who said that SP AAA model is unsustainable was Shawn Layden, not Jim Ryan.
But it's true that gen after gen the budgets skyrocket (we're seeing ) but the prices and game sales don't. To a point that a couple big games tanking in a row can severely hurt a company or studio.
