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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't think CA is big or proven enough to be handed the full reigns on the Halo IP.
Maybe it can be a couple of year transition. But definitely not within Infinite's content window.
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Certain Affinity announces deepening their relationship with 343 and have been entrusted to further evolve Halo Infinite in new and exciting ways.
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I don't think CA is big or proven enough to be handed the full reigns on the Halo IP.
Maybe it can be a couple of year transition. But definitely not within Infinite's content window.
ResilientBanana
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Quite literally, the only thing lacking with Halo Infinite is Multiplayer content. Other than that the game is fine.
In Cold Blood
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Not sure how it works exactly myself.
The 20% Tencent ownership won't matter as its a minority share but for MSs security you would think they would have some plan to keep them on the Halo project. Maybe MS has a first right of refusal with them? I would think that the same thing goes for Asobo. They have got a 10 year development deal for flight sim, so you would think that MS would have some protections against them getting bought out by say Sony. It would fuck them over big time if that happened.
sol_bad
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MS isn't on the look out for buying talent. They just want to buy IP for Gamepass.
Magic Carpet
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Tencent needs to buy Halo.
Let them deal with all these posts.
Let them deal with all these posts.
Craig of War
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MS bought a bunch of talent along with IP
what are you talking about where were you when they bought
Obsidian, Ninja Theory, Inxile and many more wtf
Craig of War
Banned
That true for now but if MS bought CA than hired more people and anyone that still want to work on Halo from 343 can move over to CA like how people from Bungie that still wanted to work on Halo move over to 343 when Bungie left
S0ULZB0URNE
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So its not 5 teams working on Infinite?Here you go again shitting up another Xbox thread with ignorance, proving to everybody once again you have zero knowledge on anything Xbox related so your fanboy trolling ends up falling flat on it's face.
Who? Certain Affinity have been working on Halo for 15 years now, are made up of ex-Bungie devs, and have been a support studio to Halo since Halo 2 and 3. The CEO is the guy who actually created the Halo 2 MP rank system.
They're not "fixing" the game, they're working on a BR mode that's to be the successor of Warzone. They're also creating a MonHun like game for Microsoft and have been a support studio for their other games, as well. CA is extremely talented for their staff size, hence all the posts here praising them..
I hope I educated you, so try again next time
I never played Infinite,didn't buy season 1 and didn't vote it 2021 gaf GOTY.
Yeah I said who about CF and?
Keep up the FOS posting though.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Battle Royal is coming for sure.
Craig of War
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You don't have to buy it the Multiplayer is free you don't buy season 1 lolSo its not 5 teams working on Infinite?
I never played Infinite,didn't buy season 1 and didn't vote it 2021 gaf GOTY.
Yeah I said who about CF and?
Keep up the FOS posting though.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I sure did buy a season 1 pass.
OverHeat
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Why are you here?So its not 5 teams working on Infinite?
I never played Infinite,didn't buy season 1 and didn't vote it 2021 gaf GOTY.
Yeah I said who about CF and?
Keep up the FOS posting though.
Batiman
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What a take
Craig of War
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You mean the Optional battle pass & you said you didn't buy season 1 but now said you buy season 1 lol
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Jaybe
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Haha legit 343 just lack talent.
Mediocrity attracts mediocrity, and snowballs from there until so many foundational and irreversible decisions have been enshrined.
zaanan
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After seeing that photo of all the 343 femailz awhile back, I don’t think they swing that way. Or are you talking about the dudes?
Captain Toad
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There is no longer such things as dudes or females. Just generic freakshows everywhere.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Craig of War
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Let me guess you probably never play it right
maybe don't talk about something if you never play it
Shmunter
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It’s true, on Phil’s org chart pronouns take precedence. Incase not aware, Phil identifies as a he/him. Didn’t know that
S0ULZB0URNE
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I played it bought the season 1 pass bundle and participated in the Samurai armour event with Fiesta being my favorite gametype due to the random loadouts each time you spawn.
Craig of War
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ManaByte
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So its not 5 teams working on Infinite?
I never played Infinite,didn't buy season 1 and didn't vote it 2021 gaf GOTY.
Yeah I said who about CF and?
You seem very uneducated on Halo and CA. I fact checked you. Own that L proudly.
I love how you say you didn't play Halo, then turn around and say you did and get caught by a bunch of people, lol. Can't even keep up with your own lies
Captain Toad
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Can I identify as a He/Her?
Shmunter
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Men_in_Boxes
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Interfectum
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The world always needs custodians.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Wow another person who conveniently isn't seeing theYou seem very uneducated on Halo and CA. I fact checked you. Own that L proudly.
I love how you say you didn't play Halo, then turn around and say you did and get caught by a bunch of people, lol. Can't even keep up with your own lies
That's clearly posted to show sarcasm.
Nemesis Prime
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They should be doing better with infinite, it has the foundation to be something amazing but it’s wasted by these clowns releasing an unfinished game with little content and over ambitious promises
SenjutsuSage
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But with the almost comical disrespect for 343 in this thread, you would think it wasn't 343 that's absolutely kicking all kinds of ass with content updates for MCC. Can't people see that 343 is basically divided as a team in both gearing up to properly support Infinite while also still delivering on promises made for MCC by continuing to deliver strong support for it? 343 can't simultaneously be winning all kinds of praise for their work on Halo MCC then in the next breath being called some horrible studio that should be either shut down, or just taken off Halo entirely, when they have proven with an incredible Halo Infinite Campaign, an incredible multiplayer component that essentially crushed its competitors at the time of launch and continues to be an incredible game (just a game that can benefit from some more content and updates, okay sure I'm fine with that), and continues to showcase with Halo MCC exactly where Halo Infinite can, and will, get to? They've proven themselves above and beyond.
There's no shame in them needing some extra time to get up to speed for Halo Infinite. A game, might I add, that was not only a massive critical success, but a commercial one also, and still has years of content to come. 343 is still keeping their promises on Halo MCC. That alone should be evidence enough that Halo Infinite is definitely in good hands.
Update on Halo: MCC
<p>We’ve got some unfinished business… learn more about today’s update to Halo: The Master Chief Collection and what else is on the way in 2022! </p>
The massive nature of this update alone to MCC should be evidence 343 knows what they're doing. They only need time to do it.
SenjutsuSage
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Just to put things into perspective for people. Everybody keeps praising the updates done to MCC. I'd like to draw some people's attention to something very important about 343. They have only just transitioned the majority of their team talent and resources to Halo Infinite content creation.
They practically announced it last year, but apparently nobody saw it when they announced that Season 8 for Halo MCC would be their last and that they would be transitioning to working on Halo Infinite because supporting two multiplayer games simultaneously would prove too much of a challenge.
Their first season dropped late 2019, it lasted about 6 months, then all seasons afterwards all the way up to season 8 late last year came in 2-3 months. If any of this sounds familiar (starting slow and then speeding it up) it should because it's exactly what they said they would be doing with Halo Infinite, except the seasonal content is coming sooner than it ever did when Halo MCC originally launched in 2014.
www.polygon.com
The latest flood stuff they dropped just now was content and features leftover that was unreleased from the prior year.
If 343 simply keeping the promise they made with Halo MCC prevented their full team resources from being dedicated right away to Halo Infinite content, that's something people who want to see their games supported should appreciate. The same creative flow they got into with MCC is the exact same flow they'll develop into with Halo Infinite. This is why I'm not worried, and why nobody else should be about the team's "capability" or "competence." They were merely behind schedule.
Even co-op. I wonder if people complaining about things like that even appreciate that 343 didn't just deliver the same old Halo we've been playing for years. They released the most ambitious Halo Campaign in over a decade.
It had forward operating bases, assassination missions and dossiers, weapon variants, vehicle variants, a skill tree or armor upgrade system, the grappleshot, an actual legit open world explorable Halo ring, vehicle requisitions at forward operating bases, weapon requisitions at forward operating bases. And this ambition on the campaign side even extended to the multiplayer side with regards to a massive addition such as the academy, weapon drills, and a practice mode with bots. If it hasn't sunk in that what makes Halo co-op MORE exciting this time around than it's ever been before for people who want to play co-op, is all of the ambitious changes to the Halo campaign formula, then people need to open their eyes a bit.
I could see half this energy if 343 delivered the same old Halo with nothing remotely new, ambitious or forward thinking, and then STILL failed to get in things like co-op and was behind the ball on content for Halo MP. But that's not the case. We can see where all the extra effort went. And considering I think they've more or less perfectly designed Halo for the future, they've earned the benefit of the doubt from me. Where exactly do people think the formula or motivation for whatever potential new mode Certain Affinity will be designing for Halo Infinite is coming from? Maybe it had something to do with the new engine 343 designed and the open world features they implemented into the game? And perhaps whatever things 343 works out in its co-op mode are things that will directly be benefitting the potential Certain Affinity battle royale or whatever it turns out to be?
Come on, people gotta give 343 some credit. They 've pretty much built the blueprint for Halo that people are now trying to rob them of their credit for doing simply because they use partner and support studios.
They practically announced it last year, but apparently nobody saw it when they announced that Season 8 for Halo MCC would be their last and that they would be transitioning to working on Halo Infinite because supporting two multiplayer games simultaneously would prove too much of a challenge.
Their first season dropped late 2019, it lasted about 6 months, then all seasons afterwards all the way up to season 8 late last year came in 2-3 months. If any of this sounds familiar (starting slow and then speeding it up) it should because it's exactly what they said they would be doing with Halo Infinite, except the seasonal content is coming sooner than it ever did when Halo MCC originally launched in 2014.
Halo: The Master Chief Collection’s Season 8 will be its last
343 Industries says it’s not ending support, but shifting focus to Halo Infinite
www.polygon.com
The latest flood stuff they dropped just now was content and features leftover that was unreleased from the prior year.
If 343 simply keeping the promise they made with Halo MCC prevented their full team resources from being dedicated right away to Halo Infinite content, that's something people who want to see their games supported should appreciate. The same creative flow they got into with MCC is the exact same flow they'll develop into with Halo Infinite. This is why I'm not worried, and why nobody else should be about the team's "capability" or "competence." They were merely behind schedule.
Even co-op. I wonder if people complaining about things like that even appreciate that 343 didn't just deliver the same old Halo we've been playing for years. They released the most ambitious Halo Campaign in over a decade.
It had forward operating bases, assassination missions and dossiers, weapon variants, vehicle variants, a skill tree or armor upgrade system, the grappleshot, an actual legit open world explorable Halo ring, vehicle requisitions at forward operating bases, weapon requisitions at forward operating bases. And this ambition on the campaign side even extended to the multiplayer side with regards to a massive addition such as the academy, weapon drills, and a practice mode with bots. If it hasn't sunk in that what makes Halo co-op MORE exciting this time around than it's ever been before for people who want to play co-op, is all of the ambitious changes to the Halo campaign formula, then people need to open their eyes a bit.
I could see half this energy if 343 delivered the same old Halo with nothing remotely new, ambitious or forward thinking, and then STILL failed to get in things like co-op and was behind the ball on content for Halo MP. But that's not the case. We can see where all the extra effort went. And considering I think they've more or less perfectly designed Halo for the future, they've earned the benefit of the doubt from me. Where exactly do people think the formula or motivation for whatever potential new mode Certain Affinity will be designing for Halo Infinite is coming from? Maybe it had something to do with the new engine 343 designed and the open world features they implemented into the game? And perhaps whatever things 343 works out in its co-op mode are things that will directly be benefitting the potential Certain Affinity battle royale or whatever it turns out to be?
Come on, people gotta give 343 some credit. They 've pretty much built the blueprint for Halo that people are now trying to rob them of their credit for doing simply because they use partner and support studios.
DenchDeckard
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Looking forward to more content. Let's see how this goes, but everything seems late on this game. The management has been a shit show.
That big team battle bug totally fucked them.
That big team battle bug totally fucked them.
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Not sure what Forge or maps have to do with Campaign.
The MP mode lacks content, but there’s a roadmap to provide that. How does that dovetail with claims of ‘incompetence’?
Y’all whining about 343i would have a point If the actual gameplay was actually bad…but it’s not. It’s solid.
StealthGoblin
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Good for CA, but damn 343 really seem out of their depth a lot of the time. I can’t recall a time where people weren’t underwhelmed by them or where they weren’t having difficulties.
Leyasu
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And? It doesn't matter for how many years they have worked on Halo in some capacity, the fact is that 343 seem to be out of their depth and behind on everything.
Black_Stride
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They are a support studio for the Halo franchise.
They are announcing that they are still a support studio for the Halo franchise, and are gonna be working on new Halo Infinte stuff (probably maps).
No AAA game is made solo, it just so happens that the Halo franchise effectively has a codeveloper in Certain Affinity saying 343 needs "another" studio is disingenuous because basically every Halo game since Halo 3 has had Certain Affinity helping....Certain Affinity was already working on Halo Infinite.....this is a none story that shitposters are using to shit post about.
Goalus
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"Promoting" her would be a possible solution.
Leyasu
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Some people may well be shitposting. But some are genuinely shocked at what 343 have only been able to achieve after 6 years. Even then what they released is incomplete
All negative doom sayersmust be fun having an attitude like that
life must be great for you guys !
Good going certain affinity! I Hope Halo infinity becomes even better !
343i made the unforgivable crime of actually making a very good Halo campaign after these lot had written them off, picking off 19 GOTY 2021 awards in the process.
So there’s a concerted effort to use the content repeated challenges of the F2P MP mode to smear the entire package and label the developer ‘incompetent’.
And now, support a studio that’s been providing support for Halo since the Bungie days is now being held up as another evidence that 343 is struggling. Makes no sense.
There’s absolutely nothing about Halo Infinite’s release that points to 343i being ‘out of their depth’.
The game came in hot and they’re behind on content. But it’s a live service game and content will come.
The Pleasure
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343 had a training bra for over a decade. What else can we do?
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Black_Stride
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Bring back Warzone!
Certain Affinity better be working on a bunch of good maps, we need maps.
Craig of War
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Certain Affinity 100% getting bought
Despiralman69
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343 has created an engine so complicated they have no idea what there doing with it, what a mess, MS need to do a serious clearout once this game is completed or make the game on a new engine by people who know what there doing
REDRZA MWS
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They are both MS developers. Do Sony and Nintendo’s first party studios not share tech and help each other? Wtf do you care? Infinite is already great. If adding other MS 1st party devs to help add content etc then there is zero negative about that.
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