BC mode doesn't mean the console can't reach faster FPS. You should know that.
That is exactly what it means, the hardware is being abstracted behind a software layer to emulate previous gen GCN GPU code and prevents the software from taking advantage of IPC improvements and newer hardware feature such as RT hardware acceleration. You can read more about this
here if you were not aware of this. As per the article:
Eurogamer said:
There may be the some consternation that Series X back-compat isn't a cure-all to all performance issues on all games, but again, this is the GPU running in compatibility mode, where it emulates the behaviour of the last generation Xbox - you aren't seeing the architectural improvements to performance from RDNA 2, which Microsoft says is 25 per cent to the better, teraflop to teraflop. And obviously, these games are not coded for RDNA 2 or Series X, meaning that access to the actual next-gen features like variable rate shading or mesh shaders simply does not exist.
This thread is not about the ideal condition. You took the phrase of the title and misunderstood it entirely.
With every generation of a new graphics GPU, you can reload an old game and the new GPUs sheer power will push the FPS and resolution higher by default. Without coding a single line. I expected to see this on consoles due to their better hardware. I'm disappointed and frustrated - not trolling the consoles.
It does not have to be the ideal condition, it does however, actually need to be indicative of what the consoles can truly achieve. Consoles are not PCs, simply throwing more hardware at a game is not going to perfectly increase performance unless the game is actually coded to be aware of the new hardware features of the underlying GPU. The equivalent in the PC space would be to have a 3090 run games in a abstraction layer that is emulating the behavior of a Maxwell era GPU, then taking that as gospel as to the performance of how the 3090 runs. Or running a RT benchmark that does not take advantage of the RT cores and claiming that as how the 3090 performs in RT.
AMD is simply far behind Nvidia. Did you even watch Jensen's speech at the GTC? They are way ahead and not just RT. Their AI, drivers, visions, influence and overall quality of their product is better. No one on here, if given the choice, would choose AMD over Nvidia for PS6/X2 consoles. Their reputation is that good.
You utterly ignored my point and offered Jensen's speech at GTC as a rebuttal? What kind of elementary school level of debating is this? You claimed that Nvidia would have been the better choice this generation as well as last generation, I pointed out this was simply not true. GCN was better then Kepler, and Ampere is not better then RDNA2 in rasterization performance and is worse in terms of die area and performance per watt, two areas which are obviously more important for consoles then anything else. Going Nvidia this generation would not have lead to a more powerful console, considering the restraints on die cost and power consumption that both the PS5 and XSX face.
As for the next generation, that is years away, we have no idea how the competition between the two GPU manufacturer will play out. AMD is currently behind on RT performance, but the company has way, way more money to pump into GPU R&D now, thanks to the stellar success of Epyc and Ryzen. MCM modules are also going to be a game changer over the next few years, and I'd bet on the company that can better leverage this technology. Furthermore, you make it sound as if Nvidia has always been ahead of the competition, when a rudimentary knowledge of history between the two would indicate this is simply not true.
Finally, riddle me this, why is AMD the only GPU manufacturer powering the first
Exascale Supercomputers? I thought Nvidia was so far ahead?
It's not a disguise at all. I am much invested in the consoles as anyone else on these boards. I'm just a realist and see things without bias. I do love my PS5 btw.
Oh come off it, anyone looking at your post history can clearly see you have a massive bias towards PC, you constantly shit on consoles all the time, your last ban was even due to that. This thread is testament to you trying to once again downplay consoles. You could have chose any number of native XSX/PS5 games, but your choice was a poorly coded, decade old, BC game to be held up as some golden standard for how the consoles are so underpowered.
This is coming from somebody who also majority games on my PC, a console warrior I am not.