ProfessorLobo
Banned
Because the MEDIA
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Elon Musk built a “submarine” to rescue Thailand kids—here’s what it looks like
- Thread starter Cauliflower of Love
- Start date
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
British men in Thailand are pedos obviously. :/
Nicktendo86
Member
I mean, the man risked his life saving kids and because he called Musk's sub a PR stunt, which it obviously was, Musk thinks it is ok to call him about the worst thing a person could be called? What a cunty thing to do.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Why DO people want to give Elon such a hard time?
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Greedings
Member
Because he calls someone who rescued children a pedo, after the experienced cave diver rightly called out his pointless "submarine" as a PR stunt.
People are giving him a hard time because he can't take criticism, Musk has just about the thinnest skin of any billionaire.
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
He is 47 he could have just not called the dude a pedo? Is this real life?
Ogbert
Member
Don't get me wrong, I agree he's clearly out of line, but do we actually know it was pointless? Musk has provided evidence of the email exchange and it reads very much as him saying 'we're simply doing everything we can to try and help'. And it looks like he was encouraged to continue.
The diver seems unnecessarily churlish about it in hindsight.
RubxQub
ÏÎ¯Î»Ï á¼Î¾ÎµÏÎÎ³Î»Î¿Ï Ïον καί ÏÎµÏ Î´Î¿Î»Ïγον οá½Îº εἰÏÏν
I mean I was in this thread earlier defending Musk and his achievements...and I stand by that...but man there's been a few things I've read on him recently that really makes him seem like some super twitchy over-emotional man-child.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
The diver was obviously pissed off with Musks antics and was a bit rude but it's pathetic that Musk retaliated with a pedo accusation. Playground stuff.
Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
Yeah, he needs a timetostopposting.gif
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
LOL! I like Musk, but that was uncalled for.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Apparently the diver is considering legal action:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...cave-rescue-stunned-after-attack-by-elon-musk
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...cave-rescue-stunned-after-attack-by-elon-musk
iconmaster
Banned
^^ As I understand it the standards for proving libel are lower in Britain than in the US, so he may very well have a case depending on how jurisdiction plays out.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Greedings
Member
Maybe I was a little excessive by saying it's pointless, but it was a clear PR stunt.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
One of the low points of being rich and famous, is that even if you want to do something from 100% genuine empathy, some people will always assume it is a PR stunt.
And if one sits around and does nothing due to this backlash, they are greedy/selfish assholes who do nothing to help anyone.
Sometimes you can't win I guess. Just because someone with an innovative mind makeup wants to help, and it may come off as that way due to how their mind has shaped their success, does not mean it was a PR stunt and did not come from a place of genuine empathy.
Is there any evidence other than how well known he is, and the fact the media now fears him with his watchdog site, that this was a PR stunt?
Greedings
Member
Bullshit. There were hundreds of rich people who did nothing, made no comment, and were not accused of being "greedy selfish assholes who do nothing to help anyone."
Musk has a history of stupid PR stunts. Sending a fucking car into space as one example. If he had done nothing, kept himself to himself and focussed on making cars or rockets, no one would have bat an eye.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Maybe, just maybe that is why plenty sit around and do nothing to help.
And yes, we see that often. How come these people are so rich, but they do nothing to help?
You are proving the point, that everything someone with fame does to help, is a PR stunt.
I will ask again, yes the car was BS, but we are talking about these kids lives, so do you have proof this was PR driven, and not coming from a genuine place of empathy? It is something I would definitely like to know.
Last edited:
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Oh yeah, that was not cool.
But I've just noticed liberals really hating on him a lot lately for seemingly no reason, I guess just because he's a rich white man.
DasPenguin
Member
I’ve just noticed you enjoy talking out of your ass.
Nobody hates Musk because he’s rich. Thus far I viewed him a positive figure, although someone who promises one thing and delivers another. I’m sure his investors would agree.
But again running, a pathetic pr stunt and getting called out on it and then calling one of the guys who risked his life to save the kids a pedo... yeah, Musk can take a hike.
BlueAlpaca
Member
That's a disgusting thing to accuse someone of. I've never liked Musk, always came off as a charlatan to me, fuck him. I honestly think this guy is a narcissist and everything he does is for attention. I've read an interview where he accuses his father of being evil and says he did everything you can imagine, basically implying that he was abused as a child. Why would you say something like that in an interview? Talk to your pschiatrist. In another interview he looked emotional and nearly cried (or did cry? I don't remember) when the journalist told him energy prices in Australia are so expensive families have to decided whether to pay for energy or buy food or something like that. It looked to me like he was putting on a show. I remember reading he didn't grief much when his son died, now he's crying in interviews? Same thing when he said he's actually a socialist of sorts - I think he just wanted to ingratiate himself with the twitter mob, the people that despise the rich lol. Now with the republican donation they're really coming for him. Enjoy your new friends Elon.
And all his projects are bullshit. Electric cars are nothing new, unless he developed a new battery there's nothing special about his cars. If there's demand for them other companies with make them and crush Tesla. There's also the problem of charging - the grid can't handle the added load so you either need to charge at night at your home or pay very high prices. Cities are not going to expand their grid just for electric cars, how do you predict how much capacity do you need? This is just not going to work.
And the space bullshit is even worse. There's just no fucking point. Space is too dangerous to live in and resources available there are too expensive to bring back to earth. And you need revolutionary technology like fusion propulsion and who knows what else. When he says he wants to build a city on Mars people should laugh instead of worshipping this guy.
And all his projects are bullshit. Electric cars are nothing new, unless he developed a new battery there's nothing special about his cars. If there's demand for them other companies with make them and crush Tesla. There's also the problem of charging - the grid can't handle the added load so you either need to charge at night at your home or pay very high prices. Cities are not going to expand their grid just for electric cars, how do you predict how much capacity do you need? This is just not going to work.
And the space bullshit is even worse. There's just no fucking point. Space is too dangerous to live in and resources available there are too expensive to bring back to earth. And you need revolutionary technology like fusion propulsion and who knows what else. When he says he wants to build a city on Mars people should laugh instead of worshipping this guy.
Last edited:
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That's a disgusting thing to accuse someone of. I've never liked Musk, always came off as a charlatan to me, fuck him. I honestly think this guy is a narcissist and everything he does is for attention. I've read an interview where he accuses his father of being evil and says he did everything you can imagine, basically implying that he was abused as a child. Why would you say something like that in an interview? Talk to your pschiatrist. In another interview he looked emotional and nearly cried (or did cry? I don't remember) when the journalist told him energy prices in Australia are so expensive families have to decided whether to pay for energy or buy food or something like that. It looked to me like he was putting on a show. I remember reading he didn't grief much when his son died, now he's crying in interviews? Same thing when he said he's actually a socialist of sorts - I think he just wanted to ingratiate himself with the twitter mob, the people that despise the rich lol. Now with the republican donation they're really coming for him. Enjoy your new friends Elon.
And all his projects are bullshit. Electric cars are nothing new, unless he developed a new battery there's nothing special about his cars. If there's demand for them other companies with make them and crush Tesla. There's also the problem of charging - the grid can't handle the added load so you either need to charge at night at your home or pay very high prices. Cities are not going to expand their grid just for electric cars, how do you predict how much capacity do you need? This is just not going to work.
And the space bullshit is ever worse. There's just no fucking point. Space is too dangerous to live in and resources available there are too expensive to bring back to earth. And you need revolutionary technology like fusion propulsion and who knows what else. When he says he wants to build a city on Mars people should laugh instead of worshipping this guy.
I can agree with some of this, especially about the space shit, it's a distraction, however didn't Tesla develop their own batteries which are extremely more efficient than most other commercial batteries?
Aren't they called the Tesla batteries? Or are they not in the public arena yet?
BlueAlpaca
Member
Tesla's batteries are normal lithium-ion batteries. I think they're licensed from Panasonic too.
Now if they developed something new like solid lithium batteries or lithium-air ones or zinc-air or whatever, then I'll respect them. It's not easy of course, lots of companies and research centers are doing battery R&D, but the reason they're doing that is that lithium-ion is just not good enough. There's also the problem with supply of lithium. I really think none of this will work out and the future will still be Hydrogen and some synthetic/bio-fuel thrown into the mix.
Sakura Doritos
Member
It isn't the lithium-ion that makes Tesla batteries special it is the micro fuse and battery management systems that are simple in a class of their own. I personally like Bio-Fuel for gasoline and Lithium Iron Phosphate for storing captured solar. But that is just me.
I didn't get the hate for Elon but his comment on Twitter about the fucking Hero is disgusting.