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Fallout 4 Next Gen Update Performance Review (PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S)
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TheTony316
Member
Xbox really screwed themselves with the power narative prior to launch.
LordBritish
Member
This engine was good 15 years ago... hopefully Bethesda dumps it for the next series of games...
Im playing Fallout 4 GOTY on PC right now and the load times between places still is a dumpster fire on a SSD
Im playing Fallout 4 GOTY on PC right now and the load times between places still is a dumpster fire on a SSD
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Are we still really on that 3 years after launch? Both machines put out very similar performance. Both machines sell for about the same price. Wow, it's crazy a console manufacturer positioned thier console as the best, only been done by every company for every console since the beggining of time.
Are you still on Nintendo for saying the Nes was better than the sega master system?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Acquiring Bethesda for such a price tag is slowly but surely turning out to be a major blunder from Microsoft.
Their reputation as a careless and incompetent developer was well established when Microsoft bought them out and it’s not like they were still consistently putting amazing games like they were from 2002 to 2011. No, they were well on the decline, yet Microsoft still paid top dollar for them.
This, "update" is a disgrace and I’ll laugh when Starfield ends up running better on PS5 than on the "world’s most powerful console". Good thing PlayStation players will just recoil in embarrassment upon playing it and wonder what kind of trash Bethesda has been putting since 2016.
CDPR at least put in some effort despite the bugs and TW3’s update was a proper one that makes the game look far better than even Starfield, let alone Fallout 4. Bethesda should be ashamed of themselves for just breaking the game with almost no benefits.
Their reputation as a careless and incompetent developer was well established when Microsoft bought them out and it’s not like they were still consistently putting amazing games like they were from 2002 to 2011. No, they were well on the decline, yet Microsoft still paid top dollar for them.
This, "update" is a disgrace and I’ll laugh when Starfield ends up running better on PS5 than on the "world’s most powerful console". Good thing PlayStation players will just recoil in embarrassment upon playing it and wonder what kind of trash Bethesda has been putting since 2016.
CDPR at least put in some effort despite the bugs and TW3’s update was a proper one that makes the game look far better than even Starfield, let alone Fallout 4. Bethesda should be ashamed of themselves for just breaking the game with almost no benefits.
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TheTony316
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Are we still really on that 3 years after launch? Both machines put out very similar performance. Both machines sell for about the same price. Wow, it's crazy a console manufacturer positioned thier console as the best, only been done by every company for every console since the beggining of time.
Are you still on Nintendo for saying the Nes was better than the sega master system?
Microsoft and Aaron Greenberg couldn't shut up about Tflop numbers, CU cores, RNDA2 and 60 fps being the standard. Xbox content creators made it even worse by spreading FUD about the PS5, so it's just funny to see in hindsight, especially since Bethesda is a first party studio now.
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THE DUCK
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Seriously, it's literally thier job to make the console sound better than the competition.
And every single console maker has been doing it forever.
I guess they should have just said it's "ok" and we aren't excited about what it can do.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I have absolutely no dog in this fight but if Xbox had stopped there and just rescinded their statement later, no one would have cared. Aaron Greenberg couldn't shut the fuck up, making lofty promises they couldn't keep such as 60fps when 3 of their major first-party games don't even have a 60fps mode. Xbox are the ones who pushed the power narrative both officially and through their countless shills. "9 TFLOPs lololol", Series S has a faster CPU than the PS5, internal communications email celebrating their "win" in the power department, and so on.Are we still really on that 3 years after launch? Both machines put out very similar performance. Both machines sell for about the same price. Wow, it's crazy a console manufacturer positioned thier console as the best, only been done by every company for every console since the beggining of time.
Are you still on Nintendo for saying the Nes was better than the sega master system?
This is simply karmic justice and as a neutral observer, it's a sight to behold.
TheTony316
Member
Sure but when you have Xbox executives engaging in Twitter arguments about Tflop numbers it's a bit much.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
3 years later and a dead horse.......
THE DUCK
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TheTony316
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Right. But this ad wasn't?
This is marketing, arguing with fanboys on Twitter about hardware specs isn't.
sendit
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Difference is, Nintendo had more games people wanted to play. I didn't even know what the hell the Sega Master System was until I looked it up, and I had a NES as my first console.Are we still really on that 3 years after launch? Both machines put out very similar performance. Both machines sell for about the same price. Wow, it's crazy a console manufacturer positioned thier console as the best, only been done by every company for every console since the beggining of time.
Are you still on Nintendo for saying the Nes was better than the sega master system?
Skifi28
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It's not that long ago and we' re in the same hardware generation. It's still fun to laugh at a few people for their embarrassing posts.
|OT| - |OT| Xbox Power King Memes
Rather than fill up *every* thread with gloating memes ... let’s just do it here so not every PlayStation fan has to endure the suffering of their personal embarrassment in all places at all times.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I mean, you also had this:Right. But this ad wasn't?
But since this isn’t what’s being argued, I don’t see why we’re using marketing slides from 30 years ago.
There’s nothing to wonder. Bethesda is just inept.
Zheph
Member
the games optimised for it takes 2sThis one is better yet, loads in the blink of an eye (sorry most of games still take 10-20 seconds......)
And where is all my 8k games mentioned?
One game?
keep moving the posts anyway, are sony execs arguing with fanboys on twitter?
sendit
Member
Came out 2 years ago.This one is better yet, loads in the blink of an eye (sorry most of games still take 10-20 seconds......)
And where is all my 8k games mentioned?
One game?
vaibhavpisal
Member
Funny people are judging console power based on 8 year old games as well as indie titles.
Unless both systems are pushed to their limits, no one will know how powerful each really is.
Amount of work needed to do that and money involved is simply too much and games won’t make that much back.
So expect mildly optimised games with one console performing better than other based on luck.
Unless both systems are pushed to their limits, no one will know how powerful each really is.
Amount of work needed to do that and money involved is simply too much and games won’t make that much back.
So expect mildly optimised games with one console performing better than other based on luck.
This is more MSs problem than anyone else's. They spent more time talking the box up as the best place to play legacy games than anything else in first 2 years.
Hell that still gets brought up as one of the main advantages today.
I definitely think that they have totally ignored its users , their console and what their Studios do.
It doesn't matter that it is an updated last generation game, it is the image that you dont care.
Not even Third Party Studios dare to release such infamous patches on one platform vs another. It's not just the message you send to your own users, it's the one you send to those Studios Third parties that they no longer have an obligation to bother making the best possible version for the platform if the owner of it doesn't bother.
How do you explain to your users the situation where 3rd party Studios and editors manage to make many games that work better in XSX than in the competition despite the sales situation and yet you offer a worse product even in content?
It is a disconcerting situation because in this case we are not talking about the minimal performance differences that sometimes favor one or the other, these are complete game/visual modes that they promise and from what seems have been completely ignored. And the worst thing is that from the response on Twitter it gives the impression that they do not intend to correct it....
It doesn't matter that it is an updated last generation game, it is the image that you dont care.
Not even Third Party Studios dare to release such infamous patches on one platform vs another. It's not just the message you send to your own users, it's the one you send to those Studios Third parties that they no longer have an obligation to bother making the best possible version for the platform if the owner of it doesn't bother.
How do you explain to your users the situation where 3rd party Studios and editors manage to make many games that work better in XSX than in the competition despite the sales situation and yet you offer a worse product even in content?
It is a disconcerting situation because in this case we are not talking about the minimal performance differences that sometimes favor one or the other, these are complete game/visual modes that they promise and from what seems have been completely ignored. And the worst thing is that from the response on Twitter it gives the impression that they do not intend to correct it....
Lucifers Beard
Member
Bethesda would have been better off just adding the performance mode or uncapping the framerate officially. This has done nothing but piss people off, especially those looking forward to Fallout London.
vaibhavpisal
Member
It is? I mean it offers backwards compatibility and other features so it is best console to play old games.
Dunno why anyone would call that a “problem “.
Lysandros
Member
Memory isn't split technically, bandwidth is.
Sony
Nintendo
How dare they market their console.
Remember when PS3 was a supercomputer on a paper but barely better than Xbox 360 in practice?
It's all marketing.
systemr123
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Games do load in the blink of an eye (if they make use of Sonys loading API. It’s not Sony fault if developers don’t implement the feature themselves. There are plenty examples of how blinky games can load, but if you actively refuse to use the API you can’t blame Sony for itThis one is better yet, loads in the blink of an eye (sorry most of games still take 10-20 seconds......)
And where is all my 8k games mentioned?
One game?
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Mr Moose
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Well - you brought up the legacy-title comparisons being an issue
buenoblue
Member
Still a bizarre choice
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Why is it funny. The XSX has higher specs in the major components, but as any honest PC gamer who has done a marginal upgrade in GPU or CPU will tell you, you can't really notice these differences outside of benchmarks.
It is marketing. Some games actually do run better on XSX, but the PS5 version is still good enough. Personally I have had my PS5 crash on Sony 1st party games more than I thought would ever happen on a console.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Oh dear.
My decision to eBay my Series X is continuing to feel like a very good one.
My decision to eBay my Series X is continuing to feel like a very good one.
Lysandros
Member
What do you mean by that?
Physiognomonics
Member
I am really happy with the update on PS5. Perfect 60fps framerate, graphics with consistent IQ in motion, max 3 seconds loadings for about everything. Bethesda did a great job.
MadchesterManc
Member
So PS5 gets 4K quality at 30/40Hz, 1440p quality at 60, and a dynamic 4K performance mode with reduced settings at 60. Xbox just has performance mode at the moment? At least the Series S resolution boost is working, got to take the small victories where you can with Bethesda. Needs patching surelt, then again the recent DF clip for this patch opened with Rich discussing a tweet from Bethesda saying the Xbox version is working as intended
diffusionx
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King Dazzar
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BigLee74
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Not really, you could have played it at 60fps years ago and moved on to newer and better games!
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I have a 4090 laptop. A Series X is entirely and completely redundant to me as a piece of hardware. That really is where the problem lies with it.
vaibhavpisal
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Mr Moose
Member
You can play it on Xbox?
vaibhavpisal
Member
Bringing it to PC will be enough as it will solve the issue of having to play it on old hardware.