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Fighting Games Weekly | June 8-14 | We played a lot of SG and VF for some reason
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I'm always surprised when people say Chris's game grew since EVO, the dude is washed up as hell, he can't even land THC infinites anymore if SCR prelude is anything to go by. Not to mention the scrubby shit he keep doing with shell-kick now... Which surprisingly work, even on Champ!
CountBlack
Member
I legit went to bed, got up to go the bathroom and then read FGW on the way back.
Going back to sleep right now for real.
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Do Gaf members get discounts on sticks
Maybe. If GAF members show up to EVO we might be able to arrange something
CommandThrower
Member
I've got both 360 and PS3. Whatever console you folks host another room on, I'll see if I can join, should the time allow.
Maybe. If GAF members show up to EVO we might be able to arrange something
What if we order sticks online during EVO?
Well unfortunately you live in America, where 99.9% of players are blissfully unaware.
Man
But these games get so much fun when both people know. So many players not knowing, it's losing a big aspect of playing the game.At least I'll look like a wizard to some people that don't know what I'm doing.
Coffeeling
Member
*attaches a special snowflake badge to his shirt*
*barfs*
Coaching mid-match just seems wrong to me. Between matches, fine, but let the player try to implement the coach's ideas himself.
Try booze to the rectum with a hose.
Speaking of weird things, dustloopers' twitter accounts =
'Yup. Also, look through the footage in slow motion. Her masked expressions are hilarious. Fun to imagine something so cute desperately trying to be creepy.
People are slowly learning. I run a lot of fuzzy defense in Persona and once in a blue moon I get called out on it. Every now and then I see an upback air grab too and know something went wrong.
Problem is people aren't good with them yet, since they don't run into them much. Like people run anti-fuzzy on me, but they run it mindlessly not thinking of what I'm OSing. I ran into a Narukami the other night who saw me OS once and then did 5A > divekick twice on me, so I started fuzzy DPing and fuzzy rolling and he just died.
Then I run into people who use fuzzy jump way too much or in bad spots, so I just kill them for it. It's really bad because Aigis basically can invalidate fuzzy jump, but fuzzy roll/mash without layering throw are conscious ways to force me to change my pressure, and people really forget about them.
We're part way there in the fact people are becoming aware of them, now we need people to get smart about applying them :T
Edit: On a humorous note, I tested out fuzzy defense OSes in SF4 after Momochi's vids were a thing. There some fun ones. You can actually 171 vs divekick pressure and layer LP+LK+HK to get throw tech/blocl/jump back anti divekick button if you're worried about whatever crouch tech normal you select dying to something. Weird stuff like that exists in the game, along with fuzzybackdash/mash OSes some people have been using for a long time. I will note in the example above there are high risk/high reward ways to blow that up to the moon and back, but it's pretty great that it exists and functions as such.
Problem is people aren't good with them yet, since they don't run into them much. Like people run anti-fuzzy on me, but they run it mindlessly not thinking of what I'm OSing. I ran into a Narukami the other night who saw me OS once and then did 5A > divekick twice on me, so I started fuzzy DPing and fuzzy rolling and he just died.
Then I run into people who use fuzzy jump way too much or in bad spots, so I just kill them for it. It's really bad because Aigis basically can invalidate fuzzy jump, but fuzzy roll/mash without layering throw are conscious ways to force me to change my pressure, and people really forget about them.
We're part way there in the fact people are becoming aware of them, now we need people to get smart about applying them :T
Edit: On a humorous note, I tested out fuzzy defense OSes in SF4 after Momochi's vids were a thing. There some fun ones. You can actually 171 vs divekick pressure and layer LP+LK+HK to get throw tech/blocl/jump back anti divekick button if you're worried about whatever crouch tech normal you select dying to something. Weird stuff like that exists in the game, along with fuzzybackdash/mash OSes some people have been using for a long time. I will note in the example above there are high risk/high reward ways to blow that up to the moon and back, but it's pretty great that it exists and functions as such.
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Persona's probably my worst out of the ASW games for sure on OS. I'm just bad on executing them or shutting others down. It's also why I struggle in that game a whole lot more than GG's or BB's.
I should probably review all those after finals this week to prepare for Evo. I could really use it.
I should probably review all those after finals this week to prepare for Evo. I could really use it.
Eh, just make sure you practice them properly and have the awareness on how they work. At the end of the day they're just options. Strong as they are, you might need to go with the other ones based on who you're playing :T
Tbf if you don't have them vs somebody who does, you might lose right there though. Knife to a gun fight and all that.
Tbf if you don't have them vs somebody who does, you might lose right there though. Knife to a gun fight and all that.
CountBlack
Member
I'm thinking of heading up to Summerjam this year.
Philly tho
Philly tho
KidA Seven
Member
SEAM in 2 weeks
Daigo Mago Tokido Momochi Fuudo Kazunoko Bonchan Kichijojiken KOK Dashio Reiketsu Nemo Shiro Misse Matsuri Kawaguchi Gachikun Gonzales Eita Santarou
Poongko Infiltration
Gamerbee RB
Xian Gackt
Dakou Xiaohai
Big Bird
Humanbomb
I got my money on Markman
Daigo Mago Tokido Momochi Fuudo Kazunoko Bonchan Kichijojiken KOK Dashio Reiketsu Nemo Shiro Misse Matsuri Kawaguchi Gachikun Gonzales Eita Santarou
Poongko Infiltration
Gamerbee RB
Xian Gackt
Dakou Xiaohai
Big Bird
Humanbomb
I got my money on Markman
CountBlack
Member
I don't know why(that has nothing to do with me) but I feel insulted in a very basic, profound way.
If you have something to say about me or my countrymen bring it on Ragingknight, I'm not responsible for the actions of all of them(and I shouldn't have to defend them anyway, even after what I've posted here) but seems like expecting you to understand that was a mistake.
If you have something to say about me or my countrymen bring it on Ragingknight, I'm not responsible for the actions of all of them(and I shouldn't have to defend them anyway, even after what I've posted here) but seems like expecting you to understand that was a mistake.
Breh, seriously. What. The. Fuck.
That sounds like the sort of thing that non-FG players imagine how the genre works. Oh it's all about this crazy obtuse tech and 64-minute combos. Basically, that every fighting game plays like the HnK fighter.
I'll be honest -- being aware of the various OSs in BB and P4A but not really knowing how to do them or how to deal with them makes me even less likely to ever want to play them (although, to be fair, I wouldn't play either game even if the OSs didn't exist.
As for why most players aren't aware of it... it's not documented anywhere, either in game or by the community. Even the biggest fighting games aren't in the situation where games like LoL or Hearthstone are, where people are getting paid (even if it's not much) to produce content regarding those games. So anything done for FGs is purely a passion project, and that tends to wear down quickly when you run into sheer amounts of apathy and stupidity that you can find on the Internet.
I think four characters would be a great number. Two relatively boring returning characters that we already expect, one surprise non-SFIV veteran, and one newcomer. That might be a bit much to actually expect, but I do think we'll see at least two characters.
I hope the veteran is Karin but I don't see them announcing her before Sakura. I'm guessing Alex or Urien instead.
Beyond that I think there'll definitely be some beta talk, if not just "and after pre-ordering you can get the beta on the PSN Store as soon as this presentation ends!" and a release date. Hopefully some info on how they're handling SFV's post-release support, like whether or not they're following the KI model.
Sony is definitely treating SFV like a big deal (even if they didn't treat Ultra's port that way), and I think there'll be something hype inducing during their conference. Still Capcom though, and they sort of have a track record of underdelivering on announcements after hyping them up for months, so we'll see.
toddhunter
Member
I'd expect at least four characters.
I still contend that these sort of reveals are stupid anyway. Just tell us the whole cast and a release date. We will still buy it, we will not forgot. Alternatively, people will not accidentally buy it and then realise their favourite character is not in it BUT OH SHIT IT IS TOO LATE.
It is 2015. Just give us the info and move on. We are all on the internet, we can access that information at any time.
I still contend that these sort of reveals are stupid anyway. Just tell us the whole cast and a release date. We will still buy it, we will not forgot. Alternatively, people will not accidentally buy it and then realise their favourite character is not in it BUT OH SHIT IT IS TOO LATE.
It is 2015. Just give us the info and move on. We are all on the internet, we can access that information at any time.
KidA Seven
Member
2 characters. 2 more characters revealed through 2 of EVO, TGS, and comic con. Capcom is probably thinking that 2 characters and a playable build of the already 4 revealed characters is enough.
https://twitter.com/XianMSG/status/607633700247855104
NuckleDu
Smug
Snake
Dieminion
Justin
PR Rog
Strider
Art
Would be my picks
https://twitter.com/XianMSG/status/607633700247855104
NuckleDu
Smug
Snake
Dieminion
Justin
PR Rog
Strider
Art
Would be my picks
sixteen-bit
Member
Maybe. If GAF members show up to EVO we might be able to arrange something
GAFdrop special?
I have one, but would have to burn an XBL Gold code to play.
1) Hold down-back Faultless when on wakeup/leaving blockstun > Transition to up-back Faultless just before you throw invulnerability wears off > Transition back to down-back. If you go back a few days on Lord Knight's Twitter, he had a good recommendation for how to train it with Sol dummy recordings.
2) Survives and pushes back low/mid meaties, jumps out of tick throws (sometimes air blocking the normal that comes out), and goes back to blocking some delayed lows in blockstrings.
3) Meaty overhead, quick stagger double/delay low to catch prejump (potentially a air unblockable mid works too?), airthrow, make them burn their meter so they fail to FD, and probably some things I'm forgetting as I realize I'm late for work.
Hey Gutabo. You're my hero. <3 XoXo
I don't think you should take his comment too seriously it was clear he got mad mixed up.
I'm thinking 4 character reveals (one brand new character) @ e3 plus one more @ EVO, and a new stage, plus a release date for the beta. And, since the game will be playable, we'll finally know wtf are those stances
About this american league people are talking about, yes please
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About this american league people are talking about, yes please
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Square Enix would promote Lightening...
CountBlack
Member
thats what I'm sayin.. where this money gonna come from b?
might as well make it a $100 high rollers buy-in tournament shit
Okay, three things:
1) NRS employees have gone on record to say that Dizzy left NRS months before the game came out. Your key information is wrong.
2) Even if your key information was right, if "Raiden was never patched or adjusted at all before ComboBreaker took place", then how would a tester have any advantage over anybody else? You might have a point if a patch had been released a week prior to the tournament, but that's not the case. Your points don't match up.
3) Raiden's broken stuff that you say that Dizzy abused? Digit used the same stuff a couple weeks prior in winning Texas Showdown.
So would I but fortunately I'm a far cry from the typical Melee player.
Or FG player in general for that matter
Stay losing', Beefy
"In addition to the previously announced dynamic commentators, the characters of Yatagarasu AoC will cheer you on."
Animeeee
Holy Order Sol
Member
sixteen-bit
Member
Sakura Samurai confirmed playable?
Kalamari
Member
VF and SG sticks incoming?
HMMM MMMMM HMMM