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First Baldur's Gate 3 PS5 Impressions - "No Stable 60FPS - Performance vs Quality Mode"
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Fabieter
Member
Well iam not super deep into crpgs. Can you give me some examples for games like bg3 with player choices and character customization.
Well yea I guess I know what you mean but I think you can say that its usually don't happen on this scale and on this production values.
Eotheod
Member
Oh definitely, and Larian have an incredible game on their hands with this title. Other suggestions I can give you are the Divinity series, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 (though most suggest 2 as 1 is more dated), Pillars of Eternity and Disco Elysium to name a few.
Regginator
Member
That would be on Larian for not delivering on or downright mismanaging expectations. One of the reasons the PS5 version didn't launch simultaneously with the PC version is because according to them they wanted to use that time for extra polish in which they'd target 60fps. Sure, that doesn't always mean 60fps locked but based on the footage in the OP, the performance in performance mode (no pun intended) is pretty bad.
JCK75
Member
Very solid, the fast load times are a huge plus
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yamaci17
Member
problems arise when the first two acts run at a rock solid 60. (same goes for pc). everyone gets magically 100+ super smooth super responsive 100+ fps in first two acts.
then 3rd act comes and pushes most rigs 25-35 fps. that will be jarring. 30 fps is fine, that's not a problem, but not when you played the damn game for 50 hours at 60 fps initially. turn based or not, 60 fps improves the feel of every type of video game imaginable. even scrolling and panning the screen will still be juddery on 30 fps and super smooth on 60+ FPS
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You definitely saw them, but didn't post them because you bleed green. I'm not even sure why you're trying to hide it? I hope you have the same energy with the series consoles when BG3 releases on them. You fucking won't though, you will somehow miss those videos too.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Yah. Also 97 MC is for PC version, not this console version with 40+ secs load time
I'm 6 hours in Act1 and the game runs perfectly fine in quality mode.
Only bug I've encountered so far is the HDR one.
I've tried the 60fps mode but it looks clearly more blurry and since it's a slow turn based game the benefit is not there for me.
Seems a solid port to me, the only disappointment is that they're clearly not taking advantage of the SSD. Loading times belong to the PS4 gen.
Only bug I've encountered so far is the HDR one.
I've tried the 60fps mode but it looks clearly more blurry and since it's a slow turn based game the benefit is not there for me.
Seems a solid port to me, the only disappointment is that they're clearly not taking advantage of the SSD. Loading times belong to the PS4 gen.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The previous video on the channel is him shitting on FFXVI and saying how the VRR on Xbox is better, where's my topic for that ?
Take a few deep breaths and remember that these are just plastic boxes, it's not worth increasing blood pressure over
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I think this may be a case of a little bit of over blown reactions with this title. At least on the technical front.
The game luckily more than makes up for anything being one of the best RPG's ever of it's kind.
Folks that get this on PS5, and subsequently later, on XB, should be very excited. Maybe not Series S folks but hey, you can't win them all!
The game luckily more than makes up for anything being one of the best RPG's ever of it's kind.
Folks that get this on PS5, and subsequently later, on XB, should be very excited. Maybe not Series S folks but hey, you can't win them all!
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
It sucks that 60 fps mode is such a step dowm from quality mode. I was really looking forward to finally enjoyong a crpg on console at 60 fps with good image quality ..the load times issue is a major bummer
Moridianae
Member
I mean, chances are there will be a third patch rushed out just in time for regular launch. I mean, Larian did put out a stellar game and the first two patches have been...well, ridiculous in scale.
They do listen so I'm sure they'll fix it. Just a shame it always comes down to this.
They do listen so I'm sure they'll fix it. Just a shame it always comes down to this.
RickMasters
Member
I agree. Why the hell this game would need a performance mode is beyond me. They should have just locked it in at 30 with an uncapped option for when. I’d gen and next gen consoles eventually arrive. 60 FPS on a Turn based RPG is a waste of system resources. I willl be buying it when it comes to series X and I’ll be playing in the quality mode. This game don’t need 60FPS.
RickMasters
Member
But why? . There are no real input benefits for this type of game… no requisite for precision inputs. It’s not a fighting game or an action game. I say enjoy the game at 30 in quality. At the end of the day yoh and the computer have to take turns hitting each other anyway. No precise parrying required so no need for 60FPS. But clearly this game needs a patch or two in terms of over all finish and polish.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Nah man. You picked a bad example to make that argument considering we know BG3 isn't even utiluzing the i/o of ps5! It's a great example against your point though. Look at those load times. Common disappointing thread this gen is the lack of new and updated engines.
Consoles used to be treated like consoles, now they're treated as PC's. We used to enjoy them punching well above their weight. They're less specialized these days but primarily its because Sony and MS went multiplatform. This has had a carry over affect to 3rd party devs.
So you are both right and wrong. Consoles are being treated like second class citizens these days.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
R u serious? Because, esp on an Oled 60 still looks more stable and feels better ..even on a crpg. With 30 there's judder. Its not as bad as an fps or 3rd person action game but its there.
Icymanipulator
Member
For a game like this 30 fps is fine imo.
Would love a lower resolution mode with a 30locked. Don’t need the quality mode frills, would rather just have a smooth experience.
Would love a lower resolution mode with a 30locked. Don’t need the quality mode frills, would rather just have a smooth experience.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
The previous video on the channel is him shitting on FFXVI and saying how the VRR on Xbox is better, where's my topic for that ?
Take a few deep breaths and remember that these are just plastic boxes, it's not worth increasing blood pressure over
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BouncyFrag
Member
My audio keeps glitching out on ps5. 
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Turn 3D audio off in PS5 system settings, and that should fix the issue.My audio keeps glitching out on ps5.
Larian has acknowledged this bug and are working on a hotfix.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
If it runs on the series S at 30FPS they will be chuffed too. but I agree with the rest.
MasterCornholio
Member
Little Chicken
Member
My post has nothing to do with Starfield...
kuncol02
Banned
I guess that graphic modes in BG3 should be called Locked and Unlocked.
TrebleShot
Member
I am about 15 hours in the 60 mode hasn't dropped perf much , not enough for it to be an issue, relax your sphincter
kuncol02
Banned
XBox VRR is objectively better. It has lower limits of frame-rates that it can work with.
Main performance issues are probably in 3rd act and in splitscreen (and especially in 3rd act played in splitscreen).
King Dazzar
Member
Nope, its right that it gets called out. HDR, audio and frame rate issues aren't a great look from a technical perspective. I'm glad that its being flagged and discussed.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
If the PC version had 40+ second load time, what should the rating be adjusted to?
Personally, I'd lean towards not adjusting it at all, unless you need to load more than once every 15 minutes.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
All I'm going by is what a friend said. The HDR thing is true.
Or course it's worth a discussion but from what I was told, it's alright.
I won't be buying the game on PS5 as I have it on PC.
The Cockatrice
Member
Yeah, this is the game you kinda load A LOT more than anything else, on normal difficulties. On tactician? Double it.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Ah, could be a bit of a bummer then.
Surprised that load times are so bad on the PS5 with it's super speed drive though.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Only if you're save scumming, right? Which I think is absolutely the incorrect way to play a game like this.
The Cockatrice
Member
It's not. You save scum when playing stealth games and get detected. Same shit. Except in BG3, even tho they supposedly have this dice mechanic that prootects the dice roll from being absolute shit, it doesnt work. I've rolled critical 1's 3 times in a row for simple things. I will never agree with dice rolls impacting locking or disarming traps especially when they dont even reward you for unlike literally every single crpg. Dialogue choices on dice rolls? Highly debatable. Combat? I agree, it's fine. But lets not forget, there are a ton of bugs and bugged quests, and a ton of absolute bullshittery in combat, that it's impossible not to reload. That was my experience on tactician.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
But dice rolls and chances are the crux of the game -- its very foundation. And how things can go not according to your plan, and then you have to improvise. The new Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves captured this feeling of DnD perfectly.
If you force your desired outcome by save-scumming, that defeats the entire purpose of the game in my opinion.
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MasterDerico
Member
PC => Consoles SUX
Consoles => PC SUX
Consoles => PC SUX
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The Cockatrice
Member
By that logic, if the dice rolls fails you in combat and your entire party gets fucked, do you stop playing the game entirely and delete the game? Dont be ridiculous. Every single human has reloaded and save scummed in any chance based games, like pathfinder, xcom, etc. Hell even the devs themselves reloaded in official streams. You can certainly go with the dice roll in major story choices, but everything else? If you have no way of getting a major quest item because you failed the dice? Do you just stop half way in the game and play something else? Fucking lol
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The combat encounters are designed to be challenging when all party members have full health. So if you lose a bunch of health to a trap, your choices for playing the game as intended are: waste your scarce potions or spell slots, waste a short rest – or reload the game. Equally, dialogue failures generally lead directly to combat with no chance of recovery.
The "no such thing as a failure" mentality works in a game like Disco Elysium, because they design almost every skill check to be recoverable. That's not the case in BG3 and most of the time failed rolls lead to an objectively "worse" outcome. (Obviously there are some exceptions like the skill checks with your party members, and some story events).
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That's not save scumming though. That's reloading the game in rare circumstances if you end up in a situation where you can't progress any further.
Two very different scenarios.
BrunoCoel
Member
Fixed it.
The Cockatrice
Member
I see, so its not save scumming when it doesnt fit your narrative/opinion. Got it, you save scum as well and everyone can save scum if they want, it's actually encouraged. We can end the discussion here.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
Eh? I'm just done playing a few hours in the opening section on my OLED in Quality mode and I haven't noticed any judder whatsoever, can't see why anyone would want 60fps on this tbh, it's a slow methodical turn based game, maybe for a smoother camera rotate I guess but it ain't no "throw the toys outa the pram" moment some posters are whinging about, the game is perfectly playable as is and hopefully by the time I get anywhere near deep into the game or close to Act3 Larian I'm pretty sure will have patched out all the issues
