Memorabilia
Member
Not a chance Sony bends the knee and allows this to happen.
I could see Nintendo doing it way before Sony.
I could see Nintendo doing it way before Sony.
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Gamepass on Playstation: could this happen ?
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Lanrutcon
Member
If it proves beneficial to Sony? Absolutely. Companies don't care about your platform worship: they care about money. If it ever gets to the point where it would be better for their business to have it rather than not, then it'll happen because the company isn't being run by 13 year olds.
Are we there yet? Will we ever be? *shrug*
Are we there yet? Will we ever be? *shrug*
Hitchyhero
Banned
What overhaul do you think that will be.... Because PS gamers have said gamepass is unsustainable, and will lead to low quality games. Plus they don't want someone else curating games for them to rent for a limited time.
SublimeAnarky
Member
I don't understand - having the OPTION to access a large library of games devalues the game library on PSN?
On topic, I am not sure if the PS5 has a browser - but wouldn't any device with a browser be able to run game pass? Or is the larger opinion here that Sony would actively block their users from having access to the option of a game pass sub (for logical/understandable business reasons)?
Hitchyhero
Banned
But Sony fans have said they don't like gamepass because:
- it's unaustainable
- will cause lower quality games to release
- they don't like renting games
- they don't like someone telling them what games to play
- will cause less games to be on sale
- a Netflix style approach to games is not the same
- will cause games to become mobile type games
That's just a tidbit of the reasons I've heard why gamepass is bad from PS gamers. If Sony gets a similar service up and running (I.e a better version of PS Now).... Surely it would be a completely failure because of all those things above? Or will those concerns dissappear in an instant
Shelookdlvl18
Banned
Only the heartiest of console warriors has this sort of mindset.
Rid thy heart of salt brave warrior, lest your jealousy get the better of you.
Zoro7
Banned
I’m not a console warrior. I just don’t see the attraction of Gamepass.
And I won’t get a hard on because my favourite console manufacturer bought a company when we don’t even know when their first game will release.
SLB1904
Banned
I dont think 3rd parties would agree. The only you'll see gamepass on ps is only ms for exclusives.Shu has a message to Phil:
No way Jose.
Sony would lose a lot with software sales.
It simply makes no sense to Sony. Like, none at all.
Negotiator101
Member
Way more money, more first party studios and more diverse lineup, Azure and miles ahead with online infrastructure. Sony currently have the better first party games , but I stress currently!
Shelookdlvl18
Banned
Kinda hard to claim that now. Only minutes ago you were claiming people talking about Gamepass was a concerted effort to hide the fact that MS has no decent exclusives for it's new console.
If you "just didn't see the attraction of gamepass", you would simply scroll past threads like this. Yet you obviously don't. You also wouldn't repeatedly mention the XS lack of exclusives so far this gen, as if it's competitors were doing significantly better.
The fact is that both the new consoles are lacking exclusive games at the moment. Xbox of course worse than Playstation, but hardly by much.
Zoro7
Banned
Hardly by much?? Lol alright man. Enjoy yourself.
Shelookdlvl18
Banned
I've been pointing this out for a few years now. Drastic changes take time. Once Phil got settled as head of Xbox, he made it clear what his intentions were. I think a lot of people just dismissed him at the time because of his tendency to pr speak too much. It was pretty obvious about a year later that he had tipped his hat to what their plans were.
At the time Xbox One was in the pits. They had a bad rep, with a weaker console, that cost the same as the PS4 by that time, just as the PS4 started to hit it's stride with exclusive releases. He said that they would be looking at every disadvantage and weakness they had, and that they would fix them one by one. From that point on, you could see them just checking off the boxes one by one. When this gen started, literally the only gap that Xbox hadn't completely closed was the exclusives. Now they've finally closed that gap as well.
It's been interesting to watch over the past few years for sure. I honestly don't really know where they go from here, as I've said for the last 2-3 years that the last thing they would address would be the games. There's literally nothing else for them to chase at this point as far as compared to PS anyway, as Xbox does literally everything better or at the least on par with them.
Negotiator101
Member
I agree but Sony are still top dog, but the future is looking better for Xbox IMO. They seem to have invested in all the right areas and have future proofed thier gaming division, the generation after this will be very different I feel.
Shelookdlvl18
Banned
At the end of the day, all that matters is if you're happy with whatever way you choose to play games. Sony does an absolute awesome job of keeping their playerbase satisfied, and have for years. Early last gen, I had doubts as to whether the Xbox was worth investing in. Of course that changed a couple of years later, and they've been heading in the right direction ever since.
Except for Turn 10. I wish MS would walk in there and put some of their woke asses in the corner for a bit.
turtlepowa
Banned
How would you call it? We are talking about a prettified PS3 game and a 6 hour PS4 game expansion and not Horizon 2 + GOW 2.
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CeeJay
Member
Still playing the "Xbox has no games" card are we?
Its launch year, the exclusives are few and far between on both Xbox and PS5 but surely you can see that Xbox is going to be pumping out exclusives at least 2:1 ratio compared to Sony for the entire gen with the current studios and with the potential for Xbox to acquire even more big studios/publishers.
Burythelight
Member
It will be quality vs quantity . AAA vs a mix of little games and blockbusters
( microsoft have many little studios) if they fail again with all this studios, microsoft should retires
ZywyPL
Banned
Everything is possible, it's all a matter of the deal, who gets what cut of the subscription fee etc. GP firstly needs to grow enough to be considered as a value addition for Sony tho, and 15M users ain't that. And I don't think it will happen during this generation, at earliest on PS6.
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CeeJay
Member
What's that got to do with the poster I was responding to who was just talking purely about exclusive output? Regardless, there is nothing wrong with the quality of Xbox titles, some great, some good, some average and some bad same as Sony, same as Nintendo.
Please don't make this a list war posting meta scores BTW...
OrionNebula
Member
Yes. But imagine...
Sun finally rising... Children laughing... No more hate... ‘’The Calm’’... The Eternal Gaming Truce...
Yeah I’m not seeing it either
Calverz
Member
Lol do you still think hardware sales are the be all and end all? This isnt the 90’s.
LucidFlux
Member
Nope, but that's not even what MS needs to do to get folks like me to buy back into the xbox ecosystem.
Look, GP just isn't for me. The way I consume content doesn't fit with the GP offering, but that's besides the fact that I just don't want to pay for another monthly subscription service that I wouldn't even take advantage of. I already have access to 100s of games on PSN that I haven't played. I only tend to buy a few games per year depending on the year, not for monetary reasons but it's simply because my game time is limited, the type of games I'm drawn to have a lot of replay-ability and opportunity for deep player investment like RPGs or multiplayer.
So the question is what would MS/Bethesda need to do for someone like me to be compelled to either get back into Xbox or pick up their games on PC (which means upgrading my ancient PC)?
It's really rather simple, they need to raise the bar of the quality of their content and release must play system selling games. If Starfield, TES6 and beyond turn out to be on the same quality level as other top publishers then that's all it'll take for me to get another Xbox. As it stands now I haven't been interested in any of their offerings in nearly a decade, so it's on them to prove the content is worth the investment. That's really it.
Look, GP just isn't for me. The way I consume content doesn't fit with the GP offering, but that's besides the fact that I just don't want to pay for another monthly subscription service that I wouldn't even take advantage of. I already have access to 100s of games on PSN that I haven't played. I only tend to buy a few games per year depending on the year, not for monetary reasons but it's simply because my game time is limited, the type of games I'm drawn to have a lot of replay-ability and opportunity for deep player investment like RPGs or multiplayer.
So the question is what would MS/Bethesda need to do for someone like me to be compelled to either get back into Xbox or pick up their games on PC (which means upgrading my ancient PC)?
It's really rather simple, they need to raise the bar of the quality of their content and release must play system selling games. If Starfield, TES6 and beyond turn out to be on the same quality level as other top publishers then that's all it'll take for me to get another Xbox. As it stands now I haven't been interested in any of their offerings in nearly a decade, so it's on them to prove the content is worth the investment. That's really it.
Bryank75
Banned
It is when you are earning 30% and upwards on everything sold on that hardware.Lol do you still think hardware sales are the be all and end all? This isnt the 90’s.
Look at how Google and Amazon have absolutely failed with their efforts to bring streaming to the mainstream and how even Xbox with a very faithful core of customers is still very much dependent on their existing customer base.
Nintendo and Sony dominate through their hardware, which is not just a device but a constant physical reminder and piece of marketing.
I don't think you'll find that all these disruptive moves in the industry will change much in the long-term.
In fact, I think Xbox actually desperately wants to get gamepass on PlayStation platforms. That would be their mission accomplished.... 120 million potential devices and even more after family members and other users are considered in the breakdown.
DaGwaphics
Member
You might have already blown a hole in your own theory here. I'm sure MS likes their 30% on the DLC/MTX coming out of GP, the earning potential is much greater on their own systems. Plus, putting GP on PS would kill MS's own console gaming platform, which generates 10b+ a year as it is.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
If Gamepass is sustainable and profitable without being on playstation, then Xbox has no reason to put it on Playstation.
If Gamepass isnt sustainable or profitable, then putting it on Playstation woildnt save it.
If Gamepass isnt sustainable or profitable, then putting it on Playstation woildnt save it.
Javthusiast
Banned
Will it happen? No.
Do I want everything in one place? Yes.
Do I want everything in one place? Yes.
More importantly puts them at the mercy of Sony who could tell MS to piss off the second the Xbox console is dead leaving Microsoft's game division dead.
I could see it happening. I suspect Microsoft wants it to, which is why we got that weird confirmation of Bethesda exclusivity on "platforms where Game Pass exists".
The console war is very expensive for both of them. They'd both be much better off if they could come to some cartel like arrangement whereby Sony has a monopoly on hardware sales and cuts from software sales, and Microsoft gets the GP money (or something like that, anyway).
But I suppose it'll ultimately depend on how much market share Xbox can take over the next few years. I'm pretty sure I'll get an Xbox to take advantage of it, cos in a couple of years the line up and value is just gonna be staggeringly good.
The console war is very expensive for both of them. They'd both be much better off if they could come to some cartel like arrangement whereby Sony has a monopoly on hardware sales and cuts from software sales, and Microsoft gets the GP money (or something like that, anyway).
But I suppose it'll ultimately depend on how much market share Xbox can take over the next few years. I'm pretty sure I'll get an Xbox to take advantage of it, cos in a couple of years the line up and value is just gonna be staggeringly good.
Bydimension
Member
No, It won't happen, but Sony should cause Microsoft is destroying any urge I have to buy PS5 as my main platform.
Reality Czar
Banned
Sure. Never underestimate the desire for these companies to make money. Why not let people rent your games in addition to buying them?
Only problem is a lot of the GP games have been on PSNow for years. Like most of the Bethesda stuff that just got added have been there for 5 years. DOOM, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Wolfenstein, etc. have been on PS for a long time already. Those games are already available. So there isn't quite as big a reason to subscribe.
Only problem is a lot of the GP games have been on PSNow for years. Like most of the Bethesda stuff that just got added have been there for 5 years. DOOM, Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Wolfenstein, etc. have been on PS for a long time already. Those games are already available. So there isn't quite as big a reason to subscribe.
Ten_Fold
Member
Why would u want it? Let Microsoft have their thing, they got WAY more money to burn than Sony. They can afford to put $70 games on a cheap service, that in itself will probably keep Microsoft at least 5-10m behind whatever the ps5 in the long run. It seems everytime Microsoft gets something people be like Sony needs to do it, no they don’t. Let them have ES6 and fallout and gamepass.
Topher
Gold Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
More like Playstation on Game Pass.
Markio128
Member
None of this makes any sense to me. I get that game pass is a good deal for a lot of xbox gamers, but I honestly don’t believe that PS gamers want, or need game pass. If game pass was something I needed, I would buy an xbox. The truth is, even the backlog of games provided by PS+ seems barely manageable at times. Since buying the PS5, my games catalogue is fucking mental. Nearly every top tier PS4 sony game has been added to PS+, some of which have received updates.