Horizon Forbidden West is not Horizon Zero Dawn
That's a fallacy, because this is "his" account. I am none other than Jim Ryan, in the flesh.Interesting. You are a PC guy right? Do these games interest you? And if you liked them, let's say theoretically, a LOT ... do you think you would be motivated to buy a PS5?
Jim Ryan wants to know.
The next god of war is on ps4 too is it not>?Push consoles sales?
You say that as if PS5s are busy sitting on the shelves waiting for us to pick them up.
Exactly. I love all versions but there should be ps5 native versions which use super fast loading, 4k and dualsenseI think not making PS5 SKUs of games like Horizon, Days Gone and GoW and spending so much time and effort making 4k 120 fps DLSS widescreen versions of PC games does kind of tarnish the PS5 experience where gamers have had to settle for 4kcb 60 fps. No 120 fps modes for any of Sony's first party games. Even ones that got a paid PS5 patch like Death Stranding and Ghost Of Tsushima.
The other day i was criticizing Crytek for not releasing PS5 and XSX SKUs of Crysis 2 and 3. Leaving at least 25% performance on the table. But Sony being first party needs to do better. Games like GoW, TLOU, GoT and Horizon would play amazing at 120 fps. As Sony's Premium $500 machine, they ought to support it like they are supporting PC releases.
The next god of war is on ps4 too is it not>?
Fixed.Horizon Forbidden West is not Horizon Zero Dawn
Thats the theory Jim promoted. PC gamers get a taste of a Sony franchise now so they're amped up and will buy a PS5 and GOW 2 or Horizon 2 for launch.dear lord if i read one more "they're doing this so they buy the sequel and ps5" on twitter i'm gonna blow
talk about not knowing wtf you're talking about while pretending you do
This list is mostly fake. Sony are porting to PC (and mentioned they plan to continue doing) old games released several years before on PS4. They also mentioned that don't plan to release all their games on PC and that don't plan to release them day one (but I assume they may make an exception with some F2P or MP focused GaaS title, which would be a tiny portion of their exclusives line-up).
Actually... It makes a lot of sense to do it and they have very little to lose. It's easy to make you have a taste and get hyped for the sequel. Can't see why this is a hard concept for some to grasp.dear lord if i read one more "they're doing this so they buy the sequel and ps5" on twitter i'm gonna blow
talk about not knowing wtf you're talking about while pretending you do
Me too on my 8.3.5 Dannon AVR with 2 SVS subs let us pray.I will be playing this on a LG oled at 4k@120fps with my 3090 and my 7.2.4 surround sound setup and I will be very happy.
I mean, I'm playing right now. Plenty of reasons. It's ok, you can even have both a PC and a console. I swear, I won't make fun of you.0 reasons to play on console these days.
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What are YOU talking about, that's how you expand your exclusive userbase - give them a taste, make them want a PS5 for the sequel cause they can't wait 2-3 years to play it on PC.dear lord if i read one more "they're doing this so they buy the sequel and ps5" on twitter i'm gonna blow
talk about not knowing wtf you're talking about while pretending you do
Well, that's your opinion.Push PS4 console sales?
This is getting further and further from god.
If hes talking about the PS4 thats even worse.
If the PCMR havent been convinced yet to pick up a PS4 how is paying for a 2 year old game thats like 12 bucks on a 200 dollar console going to convince them to spend 60?
You will not get Bloodborne, not over my stinking rotten corpse, and as corpses go. mine is 100% guaranteed to be a stinker.Holy shit - I want to see the number of sales it will make, I really do!!
THis is awesome! Now give us Demon's Souls next Christmas!! AND BLOODBORNE!!
No lies detected. And before I get all the hate, I'm just agreeing that GOW 2018 deviated the series completely into the narrative-heavy third-person cinematic experience that's so popular these days. And yes, the combat is a Souls-ripoff with terrible camera management.Good news in terms of more sony games on pc. I thought this game was awful and ruined the god of war franchise since it didn't feel nothing like a real gow game and instead a dumbed down walking simulator and dark souls ripoff with weak combat. Hope sony can put their other better games on pc.
Playing DS right now. At first, I wasnt a fan of paying $10 for next gen versions, but the game looks so stunning and the loading and dual sense integration is so well done, I really dont mind. I mean fast travel in that game was always a chore but now its like a second. Sometimes even less. You'd think id get used to it after a year but this 1 or sub second loading still puts a smile on my face.Exactly. I love all versions but there should be ps5 native versions which use super fast loading, 4k and dualsense
cos you need to sell one of your kidneys to get a decent gaming rig?Why do I need a console? Serious question
This list is mostly fake. Sony are porting to PC (and mentioned they plan to continue doing) old games released several years before on PS4. They also mentioned that don't plan to release all their games on PC and that don't plan to release them day one (but I assume they may make an exception with some F2P or MP focused GaaS title, which would be a tiny portion of their exclusives line-up).
And excluding Days Gone, all the games they ported or annouced to port to PC have an upcoming movie, tv show or PS5 only sequel releasing some months after that PC port, so that PC port also works to promote them. So pretty likely the next one they will announce will be TLOU, maybe bundled with TLOU2, to be released somewhere late 2022 or in 2023, some months before they release the TLOU tv show. And Spider-Man around that date too, months before its sequel.
I think you are missing the part where Sony doesn't care if a die hard PC gamer never buys a PlayStation console, they were never going to buy one anyway. And heck, if some do, that's just extra.Not sure this is going to have the intended effect Sony is hoping for. The thinking is "get PC players hooked on our IP so they go buy a Playstation so they can play the games earlier" right? Or am I missing it? This is indicating a change in behavior on the part of the player, that I think is just too hard to overcome. PC gamers like and prefer PCs over consoles. If they buy and play these games I think the far more likely outcome is "Hey that was cool. I'll get the next one when it comes out. In the meantime I'll go play one of the other bajillion games I have available." I don't think the Sony games are just so dang good that PC gamers are going to now want a console, if they didn't already have one.
Does that make sense?
Anytime you see a company come out with something that isn't an order of magnitude better than a competing product, but having it succeed requires consumers to change their behavior en masse, that thing is destined to not succeed. I don't think this move will hurt PlayStation necessarily, but my guess is the final outcome is some decent sales for the PC releases and no detectable moving of the needle for their console business.
If you play exclusively on PC you'll know how little that line of thinking makes sense. PC gamers play on the PC for a reason.What are YOU talking about, that's how you expand your exclusive userbase - give them a taste make, them want a PS5 for the sequel cause they can't wait 2-3 years to play it on PC.
Please give another POV if you're so smart.
Exactly ! I miss DLSS from pc version (and 120hz for that matter) but ps5 native version of DS is fully competent and have its own benefits like loading, controls and sound. (aside from DC content).Playing DS right now. At first, I wasnt a fan of paying $10 for next gen versions, but the game looks so stunning and the loading and dual sense integration is so well done, I really dont mind. I mean fast travel in that game was always a chore but now its like a second. Sometimes even less. You'd think id get used to it after a year but this 1 or sub second loading still puts a smile on my face.
Would gladly pay $10 to get next gen SKUs of these Sony games.
Almost as difficult a concept to grasp that pc gamers won't be running out to buy a console for a sequel.Actually... It makes a lot of sense to do it and they have very little to lose. It's easy to make you have a taste and get hyped for the sequel. Can't see why this is a hard concept for some to grasp.
Some will, some won't. Unless you have some hard data to back that up, you can't 100% say this won't bait some to buy a console for the sequel.Almost as difficult a concept to grasp that pc gamers won't be running out to buy a console for a sequel.
You will not get Bloodborne, not over my stinking rotten corpse, and as corpses go. mine is 100% guaranteed to be a stinker.
It makes me even more reluctant to buy a PS5 knowing that most likely I'll get those PS5 games 2-3 years down the road. With Xbox fully embracing PC gaming and PS dipping in their toes too (with superior versions), it just makes PC gaming better.Some will, some won't. Unless you have some hard data to back that up, you can't 100% say this won't bait some to buy a console for the sequel.
I know you're talking about the gpu shortage, but you don't need the most expensive PC to play games. Here's a 1050 ti, a cheap gpu from 2016 running Days Gone at max settings 1080p just to give you an example.Man...if Only PC harware wasn't so ridiculously expensive right now
Some already owned the console and will buy the game. Most won't. This is common sense.Some will, some won't. Unless you have some hard data to back that up, you can't 100% say this won't bait some to buy a console for the sequel.
Like I said:It makes me even more reluctant to buy a PS5 knowing that most likely I'll get those PS5 games 2-3 years down the road. With Xbox fully embracing PC gaming and PS dipping in their toes too (with superior versions), it just makes PC gaming better.
What I said is still true regardless of what you'll do.Some will, some won't. Unless you have some hard data to back that up, you can't 100% say this won't bait some to buy a console for the sequel.
No lies detected. And before I get all the hate, I'm just agreeing that GOW 2018 deviated the series completely into the narrative-heavy third-person cinematic experience that's so popular these days. And yes, the combat is a Souls-ripoff with terrible camera management.
I know you're talking about the gpu shortage, but you don't need the most expensive PC to play games. Here's a 1050 ti, a cheap gpu from 2016 running Days Gone at max settings 1080p just to give you an example.
yeah lets wait for last 3 years ps5 ex and I want to see you playing it on base ps5 ;d what next ps titles you predicting on pc ? :dI will keep my PS5 for now but I see zero reason to upgrade to whatever mid gen refresh they come out with in two years. I think the $60 PS+ sub is ridiculous and wont miss it at all on PC.
Recently upgraded all my PC parts, and am just waiting to get a 3080. I bought the Xbox One on Day 1 despite hating the Kinect and Always online focus (it helped that they did a 180 on it before launch) and Xbox One X just a few months after launch, but I didnt see a single reason to buy an XSX. MS pretty much offered me none. My 2080 is just as powerful as an XSX if not more in ray traced games. I see that Sony is on their way to do the same. And thats ok. It's their business. I am just being given less and less reason to buy their product and invest in their eco system.
2-3 games does not really represent a well defined pattern.
They could release any game on PC, at any time.. I doubt the pattern will be something so well defined as "it has to have a tie-in releasing elsewhere."
Well, at least is something that matches more with the strategy Sony mentioned, and doesn't include random stuff like a PSP Capcom game with typos in the name or games cancelled years ago like Scalebound.The GeForce Now list might not be accurate, but I wouldn't start guessing what will release based on only a few examples.
They seem to be focused on supersellers instead because they have more sales potential, and prefer to choose PS4 games with something else related to market months later.Honestly a game like Returnal for instance would be a bit of a no brainer.
To play the (some of them temporal) exclusive games, to forget about drivers/incompatibilities/bad ports/expensive hardware upgrades during 7 years or so/having to keep tweaking settings to get an optimal performance/etc. In console you simply buy games and play them at optimal settings without having to worry if they will port X exclusive and if they do it, to guess how many years they will wait before porting it.Why do I need a console? Serious question
Your laptop will be able to play GOW just fine. A few years ago I had a laptop with a 1050 ti, I think it was a nitro or something I was playing breath of the wild at 1440p on CEMU. Obviously I don't recommend to build a new PC with a 1050 ti if you want serious performance, but you already have the thing and it can play most games at 1080p 1440p 30fps/60fps.My laptop actually has a 1050ti, no the best thing ever but it's still great to play indies and less demanding games (even newer stuff tends to run ok at 30fps).
These days though, if I'm going to spend a lot of money building a PC I want it to be somewhat future proof, and cards like the 1050ti aren't really it, specially if you are aiming for 60fps and 1440p.
The MSRP for the 3000 series had finally reached that sweet spot of price to performance for me, shame it quickly went to hell.
All the ones they published or announced until now:
Not any game is a candidate. They said they won't release all their games on PC and that they don't plan to release them day one, but instead that will be several years old games
Fair enough. So releasing PlayStation games on PC was something that Sony PlayStation held back on for a long time. Now it sounds like you’re very much on that bandwagon. What changed?
I think a few things changed. We find ourselves now in early 2021 with our development studios and the games that they make in better shape than they’ve ever been before. Particularly from the latter half of the PS4 cycle our studios made some wonderful, great games. There’s an opportunity to expose those great games to a wider audience and recognise the economics of game development, which are not always straightforward. The cost of making games goes up with each cycle, as the calibre of the IP has improved. Also, our ease of making it available to non-console owners has grown. So it’s a fairly straightforward decision for us to make.
They seem to be focused on supersellers instead because they have more sales potential, and prefer to choose PS4 games with something else related to market months later.
They just bought Nixxes and said they bought them to port over their games to PC. Lots more are coming. We have already seen Uncharted and now GOW get ported in back to back months. Horizon, Death Stranding, Days Gone, Detroit are already gone. Spiderman or Ghost of Tsushima are next. TLOU they will save till they reveal the PS5 remake. Then both TLOU remake and TLOU2 remake will be sold as one bundle with Factions.yeah lets wait for last 3 years ps5 ex and I want to see you playing it on base ps5 ;d what next ps titles you predicting on pc ? :d
Your laptop will be able to play GOW just fine. A few years ago I had a laptop with a 1050 ti, I think it was a nitro or something I was playing breath of the wild at 1440p on CEMU. Obviously I don't recommend to build a new PC with a 1050 ti if you want serious performance, but you already have the thing and it can play most games at 1080p 1440p 30fps/60fps.
Yes, Sony will do this just for 3-5 games and ignore the sweet cash more Sony exclusives coming down the line like Bloodborne and Spider-Man will provide the company, because they don't want their fans to lose their bragging rights.This list is mostly fake. Sony are porting to PC (and mentioned they plan to continue doing) old games released several years before on PS4. They also mentioned that don't plan to release all their games on PC and that don't plan to release them day one (but I assume they may make an exception with some F2P or MP focused GaaS title, which would be a tiny portion of their exclusives line-up).
And excluding Days Gone, all the games they ported or annouced to port to PC have an upcoming movie, tv show or PS5 only sequel releasing some months after that PC port, so that PC port also works to promote them. So pretty likely the next one they will announce will be TLOU, maybe bundled with TLOU2, to be released somewhere late 2022 or in 2023, some months before they release the TLOU tv show. And Spider-Man around that date too, months before its sequel.