TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Yeah but if you spend $40 on credit and use it to buy a Car in game, that's basically Sony charging you $40 for a car, the greedy bastards!
Try dancing round that one!
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Gran Turismo 7 on PlayStation 5: The Digital Foundry Tech Review
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Try dancing round that one!
Romulus
Member
How did you prove it? Be specific. I posted 40 mins after a 22 minute vid
Romulus
Member
PS4 Pro version looking pretty damn good and competitive for last gen.
Top: PS5 - Bottom PS4 Pro.
And unlike Horizon, it's still 60 FPS in game play too. Good shit.
That's an amazing show for last gen.
Swift_Star
Banned
These games look better than native next gen games. Troll are gonna troll.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
There are really more differences than I was expecting.
I was expecting the PS4 versions to be just lower resolution with a bit less details on the sides, but no, the difference in detail AND FIDELITY is actually significant.
I was expecting the PS4 versions to be just lower resolution with a bit less details on the sides, but no, the difference in detail AND FIDELITY is actually significant.
Hezekiah
Banned
Weird to hear a PCMR guy talk about 'performance gains' from VRR. I would have thought you would have at least done a basic amount of research.I never thought people would laugh at performance gains like VRR, but here we are
Such a sad time to be alive
ethomaz
Banned
I have a feeling that some guys in this forum believes VRR magically fill the adicional frames to reach the target… like a 60fps game will be always running at 60fps with VRR lol
Hezekiah
Banned
Yeah it's spreading...like a disease lol.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I can tell you just after playing past the point of where you get the license test that this game is pretty striking. Yes if you actually look and pay attention to certain walls or things then you will find imperfection but when it's in motion and everything is just clicking it is damn beautiful. I'm so impressed that just takes me back to the good old days of Gran Turismo.
ethomaz
Banned
To be fair.
I’m dying here waiting to reach Monday to buy PSN Gift Card to buy the game.
I forget to do it before and when I saw it was Friday night and the people here doesn’t sent the code on weekends
I have a US account so I need to buy US PSN cards.
Edit - I was looking CDKey and it will probably be my only option before Monday.
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Hezekiah
Banned
I didn't buy GT5 or GT6, I just lost interest in the series and they just seemed a bit boring. But this feels like a return to form, reminds me of when I was a kid playing GT1 and GT2 for hours on end.
Here's hoping the multiplayer does great things.
Unknown?
Member
This model has been the same since GT4. There have always been super expensive cars in GT that take grinding. GT5 had the rotating used cars before MTX too. Your response to his doesn't even have any relevance. He asked if you could earn credits by playing the game, nothing has increased in price in the in-game currency.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Just because the practice has been in the past few games doesn't make it immune from criticism, especially with a price hike for the game itself.
But like Franky said, please take the MTX discussion to the relevant topic:
ethomaz
Banned
How do you exactly take advantage in online leaderboards and competition?
They have fixed cars and you don’t use the one you own in competitions or events.
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alabtrosMyster
Banned
But he has the series consoles! So he knows first hand what VRR, VRS tier 2 and Gamepass can do for the future of gaming! And so should you.
009EspadaSageJay
Member
people complain about $40 cars "Same price as they were in GT sport" should just get good half of these people are rolling around in empty fields in elden ring for 50+ hours fighting 1 shot hitting crabs you dont have enough skill to turn a few corners on a race track and not play it like a game of ping pong. How long does it take to grind out cars in GT min max and not buy anything you dont need to you could easily get 300k in the span of a few hours theres so many ways to get cars and credits in GT7 it's insane.
TrebleShot
Member
Almost as if he’s never played it…
DevilHunterX0
Member
VRR is the new Cross Game Chat.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Isn't it like a patch or two away? and the large majority don't have TVs that support it!
DevilHunterX0
Member
Maybe you were too young to remember the Console War 7...
Majima Everywhere System
Member
It looks good enough to make me car sick. Funnily enough, cockpit with extra wobble (wobble 2) doesn't get me sick.
It must be because the head sways with the car as you would expect. Most head bob in Doom and others is what makes me ill.
Self_Destructive
Member
Man the sense of speed in these games with the chase cams is just pathetic =/
Ryu Hayabusa
Member
I couldn't see the analysis. John says if all the cars reflect the same thing at the same time?
DJ12
Member
Someone could in theory put their save on a stick find the value and change it.
A seasoned hacker, not the average pleb like me.
Once someone has done it, it soon becomes easier for all.
I would assume this already happened in a previous game which is why they've added it to gts and gt7.
ethomaz
Banned
You can change anything via PS4.
You just need a CFW and you don’t need to be a hacker for that… just follow simple steps.
If the game was only on PS5… yes it could not be cheated right now but with PS5/PS4 using the same system yeap it could be if offline.
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Calverz
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Been playing quite a bit of this and I have to say there is times it looks amazing and other times it looks pretty horrible. It doesn’t seem consistent. I feel John may have given the game a by because he is a fan. The damage on the cars is also atrocious. Like a simple scrape texture is added.
The weather effects are also pretty pure in comparison to forza 7 which came out 5 years ago.
I really think Forza Motorsport is going to blow this game away. But GT has more soul. Always has.
The weather effects are also pretty pure in comparison to forza 7 which came out 5 years ago.
I really think Forza Motorsport is going to blow this game away. But GT has more soul. Always has.
DJ12
Member
Gt7 far better car detail, fm8 probably better environments.
Swings and round abouts really. Personally anyone holding out for fm8 being a massive leap over fh5 because its not cross gen is perhaps drinking a bit too much cool-aid.
Stick fh5 in 60 fps mode on your xbox and you are probably already there.
FrankWza
Member
There was a credit glitch on GT5 where you just went around in a circle for tons of credit. Not to mention dupe glitches where you could gift any car
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Still, using a recent example, FH5 lets you play the entire game, barring events which specifically require more online people, in single player and offline.
GT7 should have had that option as well.
Calverz
Member
I’m not comparing gt7 to fh5. The comparison is to be made with the FM series as it’s track based.
FM8 will be a big leap from FM7.
ethomaz
Banned
You can play GT7 offline.
You just not save it offline.
You can even play for two hours, enter online and save it before stop to play.
But I understand what you want… PD just not choose that path… and after over 15 million PSN accounts on GTS I don’t think that is really a big deal for most.
I have the feeling if gamers go against it PD may remove that online save only.
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DJ12
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Look, its really simple, if you think FM8 is going to look significantly better than FH5 does in 60fps mode, you are going to end up disappointed.
I never said you were comparing GT7 to FH5, learn to read.
Have you tried that? Because no you can't play offline career and then go online and save. Offline gives access to arcade mode only with limited tracks and only about 15 cars, no access to your garage. Livery editor, license tests, missions, cafe, none of them work offline.
ethomaz
Banned
Yes.
In GTS when my internet drops I continue playing offline and when it is back I just go on menu and select Save.
Just take in mind you can’t close it until internet is back and you saved it… GTS itself shows when internet is back and you can save.
I have access to all modes offline… it just give me message I don’t have internet when try to access Sport Mode for example.
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Calverz
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Lmao FH5 is open world. FM8 isn’t. It won’t be constrained to the challenges presented in open world design.
GTS, yes GT7 no. It doesn't work the same way.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
If Forza 8 doesnt look significantly better than FH5, GT7 and other last gen racers then it will be a BIG disappointment.
Unknown?
Member
Prepare for disappointment then. I expect it to look marginally better but not by much.
ethomaz
Banned
Are you sure? I will try it today night.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
If a near 10x increase in tflops from base Xone and a 7x increase in CPU processing power only results in marginal improvements then we need to riot.
We have already seen what marginal improvements look like thanks to the cross gen versions of FH5 and GT7. Some extra foliage, more detail on the tracks and higer res. For next gen, gamers need to demand more. More destruction, way better weather effects than even DriveClub, way better A.I, fucking 3D trees, new lighting engine, new physics systems, better collisions, new next gen features that we cant even think of.
Offline mode locks you to arcade mode with limited tracks and only about 15 cars, no access to your garage. Livery editor, license tests, missions, cafe, are all unavailable.
DJ12
Member
Well it's a nice dream.
Think you'll need to wait until fm9 and xbox Series x X or Series x+1.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Yeah. Today a few times my internet dropped and it kicked me out of a race (singleplayer) and was staring at a black loading screen in the main menu until the connection was up. Like I couldnt even go to garage, scapes....it was just a black screen.
Romulus
Member
Most of that processing power gets soaked up in features that don't translate to a massive difference. Not at 10-12TF level anyways. I think with racing games maybe 20+ TF is needed for full ray tracing like we see in certain mods to get that wow effect, the current consoles just give us a half step forward.
I think when you have incredible devs like Guerilla they can give you something that exceeds ps4 pros image quality, settings, AND 2x the fps.
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Neo_game
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The difference between last gen and PS5 is much more than I initially thought.
This is also a nice video between GTS and GT7:
I am also curious about Forza8 since it is XS only game. But they have to make it1440P IMO or some other compromises to improve gfx detail. I think native 4K on PS5 is not worth it. GT7 is doing 4x more pixels and using higher settings compared to the than base PS4. So improved DC weather should easily be possible on these consoles at 1440P 60fps
This is also a nice video between GTS and GT7:
I am also curious about Forza8 since it is XS only game. But they have to make it1440P IMO or some other compromises to improve gfx detail. I think native 4K on PS5 is not worth it. GT7 is doing 4x more pixels and using higher settings compared to the than base PS4. So improved DC weather should easily be possible on these consoles at 1440P 60fps
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M1chl
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Obviously VRR does not increase performance, but it's way better without vsync than with it, since that produce additional input lag (you know triple buffer does not sounds good in terms of latency), so basically if you limit framerate to 58 FPS (you can do it in driver setting on PC) for example and play with VRR, you don't see torn frames and input lag is smaller. So definitely this could be perceived by people like a "increased performance". You know perceived not real performance increase. If that make sense. I am personally hyped for VRR on PS5 and I hope Sony will utilize in a same manner as 40FPS Ratchet and Clank.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I went back and played some FM7 yesterday after someone here said that fm7 'looks better than gt7. I scoffed at that comment a bit but I'm saddened to say that we'll, fm7 on my xb1x kinda does give gt7 a run for its money. Gt7 is a lot cleaner looking with less aliasing but in terms of track and environmental detail? I dunno. It's those damn 2-d trees and cardboard cutout npcs that polyphony insists on using. I swear wtf were they thinking with that.
Also, HDR pops a lot more in forza. Hdr in gt7 is more subtle than I had thought it would be. So yeah man, I dunno I think they could've done a but better with gt7. 5 years after fm7 on a newer gen of hardware should equate to something that doesn't just have a small edge over fm7.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Guerilla failed on the image quality front though in Horizon:fw's 60 fps mode. It's undeniably worse than Horizon 1.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I agree with Slimy that fm8 will be a leap over gt7. Fm7 on xb1x is already very close in fidelity to gt7.
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