It would make more sense to compare Plus vs Gold, but we can't because MS doesn't share the numbers.
Bro, you are again missing the point. I am not fuckling comparing HZD to grounded!
wolf spiders and even ladybugs will fuck you up if you go unprepared
Indeed. I really like how the game evolves. We are now at the point where we are able to kill both of those with couple of hits. I remember when we first tried to fight them and how it felt nigh impossible.wolf spiders and even ladybugs will fuck you up if you go unprepared
While studios make games to make money/income stream, the highlighted above would continue to inspire and motivate the devs.
Grounded isn't a game "made by 18 devs", it's a game published around a year and a half ago on early access by a multi trillion company and developed by well knwon a AAA studio with 309 people listed on its game credits (246 devs, 63 thanks). I never said it's a bad game or that the 10M players milestone is negative.
I said they credited 309 people in the credits of the game, 63 of them in the 'thanks' part and provided the link to the list to these game credits. It may had a small core team but a shit ton of people worked in this game. For a AAA studio, 300 people listed in a game is something small, since big AAA games now have 1500-25000 people and in a few cases even more than 5000 people listed on their game creditts.
I think you're too optimistic. To have a perspective, Halo Infinite now has 24 hour peak of 20K concurrent users and an all time peak 273K peak being Halo, being a multiplayer game and being a F2P game.
That includes everything that was outsourced, random studio and microsoft personnel and whatnot. Where are your standards here?
you're high as hell dude. The list shows "CORE TEAM" which is 17 people. Those names are repeated in their respective roles. That's who makes the game.
have played the game. meaning launched it at some point. It's not hidden language
So according to you the testers, people from marketing, PR, HR, localization, CM, CS, legal, financials, publishing, sales, execs etc. don't work, they must be there only smellig the money or something. Ok.
They work on other things. The IT Manager of a QA Consulting company has their role within their own company, but individually has near-zero impact on a game like Grounded.
Concurrent player doesnt equal player numbers. It mean show many people played the game at the same time.
steamspy.com
Yes, I know. I never said that concurrent players mean a different thing that the amount of players playing the game at the same time.
I suggest you to check out Steam DB for Steam owners estimations, in addition to the SteamSpy one they add two more:Halo Infinite -
Steam Spy automatically gathers data from Steam user profiles, analyzes it and presents in simple, yet beautiful, manner. Steam Spy is designed to be helpful for indie developers, journalists, students and all parties interested in PC gaming and its current state of affairs.
Around 10m steam users own the game (The f2p version, and paid version combined).
Games take time for people to pay. Both system have their flows. But if you just go by steam chart, you will not see the full picture.
I know that concurrent users are a different thing that owners estimations. What I meant by sharing the link is that under the graphs, if you scroll down, they also show in that page the owners estimations from Steam Spy in addition to other owner estimation methods. This is the example for another game, I think it was Lost Ark. Notice the 'owner estimations' box:
Owner, just means people who claimed the game, and downloaded the game. You don't need to play the game, to be counted. I have destiny 2 in my account, that I haven't started, after the download. It will count that as 1.I know that concurrent users are a different thing that owners estimations. What I meant by sharing the link is that under the graphs, if you scroll down, they also show in that page the owners estimations from Steam Spy in addition to other owner estimation methods. This is the example for another game, I think it was Lost Ark. Notice the 'owner estimations' box:
There's no best owners estimate method, depending on the game one is more accurate than the other. But looking at the three and trying to find a common point between them probably gives you a more accurate idea. In this case this game seems to be probably between 1.1 and 1.2M. But this particular game was released too recently so probably they still don't have enough data to make a proper estimate.
In fact, if we look at the (this one is accurate) concurrent players peak we see it's 1.3M, which means that the number of owners must be higher than tthat because obviously not all people who got a game are playing at the same time. In this case their owner estimations need more titme.
Yes. In fact, an owner maybe got the game 'for free' as a review copy, or from a Kickstarter or somewhere else so owner doesn't mean sold copy.
Yes. And I don't know how many users are tracked by PlayTracker, and how representative are they of the global Steam population. So for some games can be a good estimation (specially the super popular ones) while for other ones maybe not (very small niche games).
