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Halo Has Not Met Financial Expectations - Brad Sams
- Thread starter Pelta88
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I have to agree. It's mind boggling to say the least.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You don't remember your weird obsession with Demon's Souls sales?
PS5 stock boost sends Spider-Man: Miles Morales to No.2 | UK Boxed Charts
UK: Legs Morales crushes the Charts
Almost 900,000 game consoles were sold during November in the UK
February 2021 NPD: Nintendo Switch sales was the highest for any hardware platform in a February month since the Nintendo Wii in Feburary 2009
By the way, there was more......
And then the sales numbers were revealed.
Demon's Souls (PS5) Sold Over 1.4 Million Units
Look at some of the comments in this thread, all directed towards you.
Spaceman292
Banned
Some people on here are literally insane
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Ah yes, digging up stuff from almost two years ago to prove that I do it in "every single thread".
Btw, Demon's Souls charted at #10 in November, while Halo charted at #2 in December, which is the busiest month of the year. Thanks for reminding me, turns out Halo did pretty well after all
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I wasn't comparing Demon's Souls to Halo, I was talking about the fact that you would call out people for not having proof that it didn't meet expectations but didn't know what Sony expected from Demon's Souls.Ah yes, digging up stuff from almost two years ago to prove that I do it in "every single thread".
Btw, Demon's Souls charted at #10 in November, while Halo charted at #2 in December, which is the busiest month of the year. Thanks for reminding me, turns out Halo did pretty well after all
I also just mentioned Demon's Souls as an example. People are aware what you were doing with Sony's other first party titles.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I did, since several people in this thread have called Halo a total flop, and now you brought up Demon's Souls. It's an interesting comparison
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Between both titles, it's apparent that one actually reached its goal in terms of financial expectations.I did, since several people in this thread have called Halo a total flop, and now you brought up Demon's Souls. It's an interesting comparison
It's also more likely that it will get a boost in sales as soon it's released on PC.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
And Halo will get a big boost in revenue once they start churning out content. Mind blown.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Releasing content doesn't mean it will meet expectations. It's completely unknown right now and it's not guaranteed.
Development for this game hasn't stopped. They probably want enough revenue to recover their investment from past and future development for this GaaS title.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Considering the biggest issue people have is that they're putting out new seasons and content slow, when they sort out that pipeline, it should have a proportional impact on the games revenue stream as well.
Pelta88
Member
I've seen you post frequently in certain threads, but a discussion or constructive debate is something you never have.
Klayzer
Gold Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Nah. The game has great bones, just needs meat.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Only with people who are willing to have it, too.
DaedalusGrim
Banned
Can't make content with no cash flow, can't get cash flow with no content.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Clearly just tongue in cheek comments to wind up sweaty people like you, and it’s obviously worked.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Clearly you're still salty because of our last conversation.
MasterCornholio
Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
What was our last conversation?
Mercenary09
Member
Halo did fail genius which is the exact point of this thread if you didn't notice. It hasn't met financial expectations. You can bet Gears 5 didn't either given that it bombed in sails and they stopped supporting it pretty quickly. Both of those franchises have been dying.
Forza having 20 million players in 10 months is no more important than Halo getting 20 million in a short time. Halo failed to meet expectations. You know why? Because player numbers don't equal money. Everyone plays your game for free on Game Pass that cost you $100+ million to make and isn't spending additional money on it that's what happens. Granted I think Forza had one better than Infinite but I'm still not convinced they've made a ton of money on it.
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Crew511A
Member
Not sure Gears 5 would be considered a sales flop if they decided it would be profitable to release paid campaign DLC.
I loved Hivebusters, so I was hoping for more DLC
bootaski
Member
They did add a BR mode! Last Spartan Standing! I've played it before, and I believe it's still there!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That's "last man standing." A mode that has been in arena shooters since the beginning of arena shooters.
Not the same.
bootaski
Member
Havoc2049
Member
Forza Horizon 5 made mad cash. For the early access, they sold 1.2 million Premium Editions before the game even launched, which cost either $100 or $40 for Game Pass subscribers. FH5 was also the best selling game on Steam in the week leading up to launch. The population hit 4.5 million on launch day and it has had a solid daily population since. I'm sure they have made mad cash on digital transactions with things such as the Hot Wheels DLC, VIP pass, car packs and the treasure map. I'm a Game Pass Ultimate subscriber and I bought the $40 Premium Edition pre-launch, along with the $3 Treasure map post launch.
The Xbox/PC community is very multiplayer centric, so many Xbox gamers will stick with Microsoft franchises over a long period of time post launch, buying digital content and Season Passes along the way, while also subscribing to Game Pass, Game Pass Ultimate or Xbox Live.
Microsoft games also sell well on Steam and are frequently top sellers.
Mercenary09
Member
And yet all of what you just said didn't help Halo Infinite from being a failure did it? Out of any of Microsoft's games over the past few years I agree that Forza is probably the most profitable. A game being on Game Pass doesn't ensure it will be successful and profitable and when it's a game that costs 100's of millions that becomes a problem.
Pelta88
Member
It's like... The PR is so embedded with some people that even in a thread discussing the fact Halo hasn't met expectations, they still believe it has.
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Klayzer
Gold Member
Expectations were met so well, that Microsoft replaced the whole leadership heiarchy to celebrate.
XXL
Member
DarkMage619
$MSFT
Little support after release is what didn't didn't help Halo Infinite. Six+ month seasons and few maps and modes hurt it's potential to make money. Again Game pass had nothing to do with Halo Infinite's status. The multiplayer was free. Not sure why people keep bringing up Game pass.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Yo are people still arguing that Halo Infinite delivered on its promises in a thread about how Microsoft is replacing all the senior management because it didn't?
Just checking to make sure.
Just checking to make sure.
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JerryinSoCal
Member
Halo was the only new release in the top 20 in December, so it wasn't that busy, November is when most of the holiday titles debut. Halo also fell to number 18 in January and out of the top 20 from that point on in February.Ah yes, digging up stuff from almost two years ago to prove that I do it in "every single thread".
Btw, Demon's Souls charted at #10 in November, while Halo charted at #2 in December, which is the busiest month of the year. Thanks for reminding me, turns out Halo did pretty well after all
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
You are absolutely delusional. The issue with Infinite wasn't a lack of content. It was *everything*. From the terrible campaign, the insulting and greedy MTX, the lack of quality, the constant bugs, glitches, poor online matchmaking - I get you are an astroturfing shill - but have some self respect.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Remember when Halo was all about the exotic biomes and the levels got more and more amazing visually as you progressed?
Return to that Halo, return to that.
The ambiance music tho survived well in Infinite, I’ll give it that. But the murder monkey raging every damned cut scene checkpoint got old fast.
And bring back Halo 4s Cortana design if you’re gonna make it a sappy love story.
Halo 3 is still GOAT Halo to me. Next to the nostalgic love for CE.
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ChorizoPicozo
Banned
Pedro Motta
Member
You are prematurely creaming your pants, warrior. Gamepass is the way forward, better accept it sooner rather than later
God damn, I wrinkled into a paper ball reading this.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This is some next level no lube retard shit.You are prematurely creaming your pants, warrior. Gamepass is the way forward, better accept it sooner rather than later
Bumblebeetuna
Gold Member
This has nothing to do with GamePass. 343 has just dropped the ball repeatedly with Infinite multiplayer.
The campaign is amazing but it’s not long. What was supposed to keep people coming back was the multiplayer service. What was supposed to generate money around the clock were the cosmetics and battle passes for the multiplayer. And it all sucks outside of the gunplay.
Deputy Moonman
Member
So where in that video does the guy ever say it failed financial expectations? I'd be blown away if that were actually true. The game failed expectations for many reasons, mostly slow content release or lack thereof, but I don't believe for a second that Infinite was a financial failure. So we should probably stop conflating failed financial expectations with failed game expectations. 343 dropped the ball on a myriad of things, but the cleaning house with management is because of bad PR, and yes the bad PR is deserved. No one is excusing Infinite for all of its problems. It was time for Bonnie Ross to go. She knew it. MS knew it.
Could you please go into a thread just once and not accuse everyone of being a consoler warrior, or a shill? I realize it's your go-to argument on this forum but give it a rest. The campaign was a lot of fun, evidenced by all the positive reviews.
Robb
Gold Member
Feels like I’m playing an entirely different game when reading this. Wouldn’t even call $10 for the battle pass particularly greedy compared to other games (although I have never looked at the stuff in the actual shop).
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Ah yes, reviews that have been proven for over a decade, if not longer, to be utterly worthless. The only people who actively use them in an argument/debate are warriors.
Also no, I only accuse console warriors of being console warriors and shills of being shills. I have yet to be proven wrong, fanboy.
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Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Feels like I’m playing an entirely different game when reading this. Wouldn’t even call $10 for the battle pass particularly greedy compared to other games (although I have never looked at the stuff in the actual shop).
Mate, the company itself is admitting to its massive fuckups. Are you that blind to reality?
iHaunter
Member
Remember when GAF said Infinite would be the reason to buy an XSX? Still no reason to buy one. Games have been mediocre, delayed, or generic. Scorn looks cool, but it's 6 hours. Atomic Heart looks dope, got delayed. Phil needs the boot. All he does is push GamePass and fucks up everything else.
The real pathetic part is the 343 is such a huge company and have been working on this game for what, close to 8 years? How they failed to make some a tiny game with copy/pasted assets over such a long dev cycle with so many people is beyond me. Incompetently run from the top to the bottom.
The real pathetic part is the 343 is such a huge company and have been working on this game for what, close to 8 years? How they failed to make some a tiny game with copy/pasted assets over such a long dev cycle with so many people is beyond me. Incompetently run from the top to the bottom.
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Robb
Gold Member
I’ve already posted what I think about them on page 3 in this very thread. I guess I just disagree that your points are the issue.
Campaign is great, MTX cost aren’t worse than most other ftp games, gameplay is fantastic, haven’t experienced any memorable bugs/glitches and matchmaking has been no problem. Although I can’t say I play very competitively, just for fun.
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