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HBO Original | The Last of Us | Part 1 OT | Endure & Survive
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Chronicle
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That's what makes the show so good. It stays true to its gaming roots. I mean Joel doesn't think too miluch but tracts very fast. He's like us the gamer. You think we'd ever grab ellie and run away? Fuck that. We go in and kill everyone. Upgrade our weapon along the way and kill even more. Just like in a game. He doesn't hesitate. It's great.
DenchDeckard
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I can't believe Sony didn't have the PC version ready to launch the few days after the last episode.....massive eff up there.
Kev Kev
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As someone who didn't play the games (I made it like halfway through the first one), here's my take...
Honestly, I'll probably stop watching the show if they kill off Joel. Pedro Pascal is fantastic. He's carrying the show single handedly and everyone loves him, it would be utter lunacy to waste him like that. And I really don't care for Bella Ramsey's acting, nor do I care that much about Ellie as a character.
I couldn't agree more with how Joel handled the situation. Finding a cure isn't going to magically make everything normal again. The world in TLoU is fucked and it's going to take a whole lot more than a vaccine to save it. Best thing Joel and Ellie can do is try to live in peace for as long as they can, and hope humanity finds a better way. But dissecting and killing kids isn't how we do things and if you think so, you deserve a bullet in the head like that doctor.
The only entertaining thing that would come out of killing off Joel is the backlash the show would receive for such a retarded decision.
Honestly, I'll probably stop watching the show if they kill off Joel. Pedro Pascal is fantastic. He's carrying the show single handedly and everyone loves him, it would be utter lunacy to waste him like that. And I really don't care for Bella Ramsey's acting, nor do I care that much about Ellie as a character.
I couldn't agree more with how Joel handled the situation. Finding a cure isn't going to magically make everything normal again. The world in TLoU is fucked and it's going to take a whole lot more than a vaccine to save it. Best thing Joel and Ellie can do is try to live in peace for as long as they can, and hope humanity finds a better way. But dissecting and killing kids isn't how we do things and if you think so, you deserve a bullet in the head like that doctor.
The only entertaining thing that would come out of killing off Joel is the backlash the show would receive for such a retarded decision.
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VulcanRaven
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About the ending: I wonder why they decided to have Ellie not unconscious when captured by Fireflies? I'm not sure if I like that change. Maybe season 2 will have a flashback about what happened. Like Marlene talking with Ellie.
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Grildon Tundy
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Ulysses 31
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If I had to guess it's done to weaken Joel's case considering that we don't see Ellie resisting the operation before she sees Joel again lending more credence she wants it to happen.
But then they also give people like ammo with their "We didn't tell her" and that it "could" be a cure.
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DelireMan7
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Damn ! I always forget about this double sense.
Not the first time I get caught like this xD
There is:
Almost false advertising.
Catphish
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Finished it last night. Fucking loved it.
I lost count of the amount of times I said, "Holy shit. That's right out of the game," whether it was music, dialogue, a shot, or a complete scene. The show stayed very true to its game roots.
I got the same mixture of bleakness & awe from the show that I got from the game. I actually wish there would have been another episode showing more of this new world; how nature reclaimed much from civilization, how once famous landmarks had crumbled, or faded into obscurity under a canopy of green. I feel like there wasn't quite enough of that.
I don't have much else to complain about, except the handling of Bill. I don't get why they had to kill him off before Ellie & Joel showed up. I felt cheated having not been able to see him and Ellie do a little verbal sparring. While the episode was very well done, and brought me to tears multiple times, I feel like it was robbed of potential, since it was basically an isolated subplot that didn't interact much with the rest of the story.
Overall, I really enjoyed it, and I'm thankful that it wasn't sexed up like most HBO shows, so I was actually able to watch it with my daughter. We both loved it, and are looking forward to the next season.
9/10
I lost count of the amount of times I said, "Holy shit. That's right out of the game," whether it was music, dialogue, a shot, or a complete scene. The show stayed very true to its game roots.
I got the same mixture of bleakness & awe from the show that I got from the game. I actually wish there would have been another episode showing more of this new world; how nature reclaimed much from civilization, how once famous landmarks had crumbled, or faded into obscurity under a canopy of green. I feel like there wasn't quite enough of that.
I don't have much else to complain about, except the handling of Bill. I don't get why they had to kill him off before Ellie & Joel showed up. I felt cheated having not been able to see him and Ellie do a little verbal sparring. While the episode was very well done, and brought me to tears multiple times, I feel like it was robbed of potential, since it was basically an isolated subplot that didn't interact much with the rest of the story.
Overall, I really enjoyed it, and I'm thankful that it wasn't sexed up like most HBO shows, so I was actually able to watch it with my daughter. We both loved it, and are looking forward to the next season.
9/10
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PaddyOCanager
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Yeah people seem to forget that the "cure" will be exclusively in the hands of the Fireflies. They are a fractured, incompetent, brutal guerilla group, not some benevolent savior of humanity. Those who think Joel is a monster are incapable of logically playing out what would happen next had he let Ellie die.
Anyone who thinks Joel was wrong for what he did is a mental toddler. I really want to expand further on this sentiment, but it would spoil Season 2 unfortunately.
Eiknarf
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https://people.com/tv/melanie-lynskey-husband-jason-ritter-secret-the-last-of-us-cameo-hbo/
That’s pretty cool ^^^^^
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That’s pretty cool ^^^^^
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VulcanRaven
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Edit: Spoiler tags just in case. Pedro Pascal posted behind the scene photos on Instagram:
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Aggelos
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Wētā FX talks all things ‘The Last of Us,’ including the iconic bloater and giraffe scenes | TechCrunch
Wētā FX worked on six out of nine episodes for "The Last of Us," bringing the total of visual effects shots to 456.
techcrunch.com
‘We got them running full tilt and acting all crazy, but then we also sped it up 8%’ - befores & afters
How practical and digital combined to make that crazy episode 5 ‘Last of Us’ clicker battle.
beforesandafters.com
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Aggelos
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DNEG made a procedural tool that let artists create bomb-shaped holes in Boston buildings for ‘The Last of Us’ - befores & afters
Behind the scenes of the VFX studio’s environment and character integration work in the series.
beforesandafters.com
VulcanRaven
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VulcanRaven
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They probably feel some kind of ownership of the characters because they have played them for a long time so it must have been odd to see someone else play them.
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VulcanRaven
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How long is the making-of documentary? Looks like the Nordic countries are getting it on Monday.
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FunkMiller
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30 minutes.
Fools idol
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There is:
that is a beautiful cover art. Damn.
Fools idol
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this has been the sob story for many a voice actor for decades.
it's kinda the same for books - when a good adaption comes out, no one remembers the author and the director and actors get all the credit.
In the rare cases it doesn't happen, like GRRM example it's cause the creators made a huge effort to credit the books in every interview they gave, and always got george involved in making the series.
Even then, most people dont even know who GRRM is even if they know the show came from a book series.
Beastclaw Raider
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Yeah but Abby killing Joel is also something everyone would of done. Really hated it when the first game came out but it just makes sense, she isnt in the wrong and she isnt a villain for doing so. Joel killed her father, he deserved it, even though we loved him.
TaylorSwiftFan
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To me, Ashley Johnson and Troy Baker are still Joel and Ellie. Pedro Pascal’s portrayal is not Joel from the game and Belle Ramsey’s acting chops do not allow her to be Ellie from the game.
TaylorSwiftFan
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She’s not in the wrong but the writing is plain stupid. That he’s able to find Joel and that Joel trusted her group. That was stupid.
Beastclaw Raider
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Joel didnt trust her group, an event led them there and it's actually his brother who spilled the beans. But yeah, the chances of that event happening and them ending right in the devil's lair is farfetch and lazy writing, I agree.
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Ulysses 31
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Eh, being saved when you could've been left for horde food/distraction should give any grateful person a moment of pause when they're also looking to torture their savior. She went on to have a dragged out torture session anyway which made it nearly impossible for me to ever root for her.
Beastclaw Raider
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I disagree, she spent all these years having this fixation on killing her father's murderer. No one would let that go that easily, I would of done the same.
Ulysses 31
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I guess some people are wired differently to be grateful when their life is saved and with others it counts for nothing.
Where did I say she should've given up on getting revenge? The nuance I would've added to her character that she tells Joel what she dreamt of doing to him all these years but because he saved her, she will give him a quick death.
Beastclaw Raider
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Yeah, I guess people are different. I would of tortured him just the same, it was also cut short by Ellie showing up. It really sucks that it happened, and I was very frustrated and disliked the game for it but I'm replaying it right now with a different mindset.
VulcanRaven
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Beastclaw Raider
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Cringe AF
John Marston
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Late to the party and just finished the season.
As much as I was sceptical about Pedro Pascal the man fuckin' nailed it.
Bella Ramsay did a good job of emanating Ellie with her voice and mannerisms.
But I did miss the game's Ellie "model" as Ramsay for me did not look even close to 14 years old.
She also looks like Down Syndrome decided to tag her at birth but changed its mind and only left a sprinkle.
I also fast forwarded through most of the DLC Left Behind episode.
But overall great atmosphere, story and cinematography!
As much as I was sceptical about Pedro Pascal the man fuckin' nailed it.
Bella Ramsay did a good job of emanating Ellie with her voice and mannerisms.
But I did miss the game's Ellie "model" as Ramsay for me did not look even close to 14 years old.
She also looks like Down Syndrome decided to tag her at birth but changed its mind and only left a sprinkle.
I also fast forwarded through most of the DLC Left Behind episode.
But overall great atmosphere, story and cinematography!
Tripolygon
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So like how Joel was saved by the fireflies but he went ahead and killed all of them anyway because to him they were going to kill his surrogate daughter? It's almost like revenge overrides almost all sane thought.
Ulysses 31
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That and getting knocked out, forcefully separated, robbed, kidnapped and threated with death burned all the good will with them.
It's not insane for Joel to come to Ellie's defence. Abby still having a drawn out torture session after being rescued does make it a lot harder for me to root for. Especially when later on we see she is capable of gratitude for being saved, even by those she's used to killing.
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VulcanRaven
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This is not directly related to TLOU but this great short film starring Bella Ramsey was uploaded on Youtube not long ago:
ricardo_sousa11
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This is much better than her performance in TLOU, which leads me to strongly believe her performance is damaged by the terrible cinematography in the series.
DragoonKain
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In fairness to Joel, Joel had way less time to ponder his actions than Abby. Joel was informed of Ellie’s situation and was asked to go along with it in the span of like 2 minutes. He didn’t have time to warm up to it or think about it. And this is all coming off an ultimate bonding moment and also Ellie saving his life back in the winter arc. So I’m sure there’s a sense of gratitude he feels like he owes Ellie as well. And then when he refuses to accept this plan in a couple minutes, they assault him and threaten his life.
Now, I think Joel would’ve probably done the same thing even if given a month to think about it, but it’s still a bit different than Abby planning for her moment over a much longer period of time.
Captain Toad
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It's almost surreal how well they replicated the look and feel of the game's world with their sets.
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VulcanRaven
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I wish it was longer. Editing made it feel like the clips were cut from a longer documentary. The upcoming 4K/Blu-Ray release will have more so its possible.
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Eiknarf
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yeah, after all that they ended up going CG with the bloater.
VulcanRaven
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I wish they hadn't replaced it with cgi. Good thing is that now they have the suit so they can use it in season 2.
VulcanRaven
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MTV Movie & TV Awards nominations:
https://deadline.com/2023/04/mtv-mo...-last-of-us-2023-nominations-list-1235317050/
BEST HERO
• Diego Luna — Andor
• Jenna Ortega — Wednesday
• Paul Rudd — Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania
• Pedro Pascal — The Last Of Us
• Tom Cruise — Top Gun: Maverick
BEST KISS
• Anna Torv + Philip Prajoux – The Last Of Us
• Harry Styles + David Dawson – My Policeman
• Madison Bailey + Rudy Pankow – Outer Banks
• Riley Keough + Sam Claflin – Daisy Jones & The Six
• Selena Gomez + Cara Delevingne – Only Murders in the Building
BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE
• Bad Bunny – Bullet Train
• Bella Ramsey – The Last Of Us
• Emma D’Arcy – House of the Dragon
• Joseph Quinn – Stranger Things
• Rachel Sennott – Bodies Bodies Bodies
BEST DUO
• Camila Mendes + Maya Hawke – Do Revenge
• Jenna Ortega + Thing – Wednesday
• Pedro Pascal + Bella Ramsey – The Last Of Us
• Simona Tabasco + Beatrice Grannò – The White Lotus
• Tom Cruise + Miles Teller – Top Gun: Maverick
https://deadline.com/2023/04/mtv-mo...-last-of-us-2023-nominations-list-1235317050/
BEST HERO
• Diego Luna — Andor
• Jenna Ortega — Wednesday
• Paul Rudd — Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania
• Pedro Pascal — The Last Of Us
• Tom Cruise — Top Gun: Maverick
BEST KISS
• Anna Torv + Philip Prajoux – The Last Of Us
• Harry Styles + David Dawson – My Policeman
• Madison Bailey + Rudy Pankow – Outer Banks
• Riley Keough + Sam Claflin – Daisy Jones & The Six
• Selena Gomez + Cara Delevingne – Only Murders in the Building
BREAKTHROUGH PERFORMANCE
• Bad Bunny – Bullet Train
• Bella Ramsey – The Last Of Us
• Emma D’Arcy – House of the Dragon
• Joseph Quinn – Stranger Things
• Rachel Sennott – Bodies Bodies Bodies
BEST DUO
• Camila Mendes + Maya Hawke – Do Revenge
• Jenna Ortega + Thing – Wednesday
• Pedro Pascal + Bella Ramsey – The Last Of Us
• Simona Tabasco + Beatrice Grannò – The White Lotus
• Tom Cruise + Miles Teller – Top Gun: Maverick
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