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Hello Games Announces Light no Fire | The Game Awards 2023
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
I hope this one planet has the diversity of every single NMS planet combined.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
This looks dope and it should provide heavy competition to both Ark and its sequel, but...
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I'm not sure what else there is to add to that game that requires a lot of development time. It has naturally wound down and the team seems to have worked on other things in the meantime.
Lokaum D+
Member
No Man Sky vanilla was their first try 8 years ago, they know what to do now, at least with their procedural generation tech.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Same. I don’t particularly enjoy NMS art style anymore, feels dated. I’m mostly not a fan of brimming with fucking life procedurally for every goddamn square feet. I don’t like their procedural recipe basically.
NMS is basically a Minecraft in space backdrop, and this seems like more building/crafting.
I thought only PC bros enjoyed that genre?
Holammer
Member
Ah yeah! Baby light my fire! That's the distillation of everything they learned and technologies developed for NMS.
That thing is Minecraft on steroids and it's going to entertain for a decade. They can expand with new planes of existence (standard fantasy fare), underworlds and never run out of space.
That thing is Minecraft on steroids and it's going to entertain for a decade. They can expand with new planes of existence (standard fantasy fare), underworlds and never run out of space.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Hello Games just schooled everyone by making a trailer where the game did all of the talking - not a fancy cinematic movie.
I’m getting Valheim vibes but this obviously goes beyond that. Incredible work.
I’m getting Valheim vibes but this obviously goes beyond that. Incredible work.
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RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
It looks good and they've definitely taken their NMS tech to the next level but try as I might I just cannot get deep into NMS, this I'll be willing to give a shit if I can get a group to play with
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
The artful mincer
Member
I'am amazed people are doubting Hello games this far in.
Seriously this isn't the same as before. They have 100 million in the bank, there getting recurring revenue from No man's Sky. They don't need to rush this out the door to get revenue.
Do you seriously think they want a repeat of No Man sky's?
Use your fucking Brains people.
Seriously this isn't the same as before. They have 100 million in the bank, there getting recurring revenue from No man's Sky. They don't need to rush this out the door to get revenue.
Do you seriously think they want a repeat of No Man sky's?
Use your fucking Brains people.
Magic Carpet
Member
VR that for me please.
CamHostage
Member
Still seems weird to me what people "expected" No Man's Sky to be, versus what it delivered and then what it eventually became.
Most of the outrage over the launch was about it not being the multiplayer experience people imagined, which A) is not really there in the trailer (albeit there are other ships and you'd assume those are other players... there's no interaction with them other than proximity, so I'm not sure why that mattered?), and B) even before launch there was a lot of downplay effort to make sure it was clear that this was designed initially as a single-player experience, with ties to servers of other players for exploration recording and other progress features but not necessarily a game for players seeking time with other players. (That changed as the game evolved, but the game is still not dependent on MP and you can play it just fine offline.)
Yes, technically the launched product was datamined to reveal it apparently didn't have any actual player relation systems in the day one launch app (which has been remedied over time, but was certainly bad for a long time if that was important to buyers,) that was an ugly time for the game. Today, that first hit might be different because games constantly evolve and a simple, "Not at Day 1 but we're working on it" message before launch could have made all the difference, but it didn't work out that way.
However, it's always been strange to me how much the "Sean Murray lies!" ferocity continues when so much of it was based on players' ideas of what the game would be that this game wasn't made to be. It was almost three years between reveal and initial launch, and realistically, not a lot was said about the actual gameplay in that time; most player's thoughts on the game before it came out was , "Looks cool, but how the heck does it play?" From my memory of that time, it feels like a lot of that got answered by other players making assumptions, and then when the game came out and it was this simple wander-about space exploration thing with few Star Wars-style thrills and no MP interaction, the reaction was fiery. I never understood it; I knew from reading about the game that it probably wasn't for me at the time, then it came out and I read some of the heat against it and thought, "Wait, they're describing pretty much what I thought this game was going to be, what's the problem?"
www.gameinformer.com
www.theguardian.com
Light No Fire is probably not for me either since I mostly like SP and structured experiences (but both beckon me to waste lots of free time with them if I ever do get around to either game in the "No" franchise...), but already there are some weird reactions about "story" and "quests" and RPG systems that I think are going to miss the point again...
Most of the outrage over the launch was about it not being the multiplayer experience people imagined, which A) is not really there in the trailer (albeit there are other ships and you'd assume those are other players... there's no interaction with them other than proximity, so I'm not sure why that mattered?), and B) even before launch there was a lot of downplay effort to make sure it was clear that this was designed initially as a single-player experience, with ties to servers of other players for exploration recording and other progress features but not necessarily a game for players seeking time with other players. (That changed as the game evolved, but the game is still not dependent on MP and you can play it just fine offline.)
Yes, technically the launched product was datamined to reveal it apparently didn't have any actual player relation systems in the day one launch app (which has been remedied over time, but was certainly bad for a long time if that was important to buyers,) that was an ugly time for the game. Today, that first hit might be different because games constantly evolve and a simple, "Not at Day 1 but we're working on it" message before launch could have made all the difference, but it didn't work out that way.
However, it's always been strange to me how much the "Sean Murray lies!" ferocity continues when so much of it was based on players' ideas of what the game would be that this game wasn't made to be. It was almost three years between reveal and initial launch, and realistically, not a lot was said about the actual gameplay in that time; most player's thoughts on the game before it came out was , "Looks cool, but how the heck does it play?" From my memory of that time, it feels like a lot of that got answered by other players making assumptions, and then when the game came out and it was this simple wander-about space exploration thing with few Star Wars-style thrills and no MP interaction, the reaction was fiery. I never understood it; I knew from reading about the game that it probably wasn't for me at the time, then it came out and I read some of the heat against it and thought, "Wait, they're describing pretty much what I thought this game was going to be, what's the problem?"
Stop Thinking Of No Man’s Sky As A Multiplayer Game
Hello Games explains exactly what multiplayer is and isn’t and teases the player character design.
www.gameinformer.com
No Man’s Sky developer Sean Murray: ‘It was as bad as things can get’
Murray and Hello Games coded a near-infinite universe and survived a harassment ordeal. For two years, they’ve stuck by the game that put them on the map – and led to death threats
www.theguardian.com
Light No Fire is probably not for me either since I mostly like SP and structured experiences (but both beckon me to waste lots of free time with them if I ever do get around to either game in the "No" franchise...), but already there are some weird reactions about "story" and "quests" and RPG systems that I think are going to miss the point again...
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Games of Today
Member
To me it's pretty cool that the theming of the name is basically like a sequel to NMS.
This could be interesting.
This could be interesting.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
I chuckled after 'more ambitious' too; it was a funny dialogue. Doesn't seem like a game I'd enjoy, but I'm glad Hello Games is still standing strong and creating more games. Somehow I like these guys.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Stafford
Member
It's nice that they really righted that ship with NMS with all those updates, but I'm still.......we'll see with this new game. It does look really good!
But what can I expect here? It seems there's combat, but are there quests, story? Remains to be seen if this will be my thing. NMS wasn't, not into building shit. Give me a good story, fun quests to take on etc.
But what can I expect here? It seems there's combat, but are there quests, story? Remains to be seen if this will be my thing. NMS wasn't, not into building shit. Give me a good story, fun quests to take on etc.
Lokaum D+
Member
About that
100% this, no "unparalleled freedom" bs
Lokaum D+
Member
u mean, the most amazing "open world" "space exploration" game out there? if the 8 years of continuous support didnt change you mind about them, nothing ll. No Man Sky is one of the best games out there in the market right now.
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GHG
Member
naguanatak
Member
Hello Games are a bunch of lunatics. I get it that NMS isn't everyones cup of tea. But to me there is no game that comes close (even though I rarely play it anymore fot different reasons). Light No Fire might change that.
When Murray revealed two or three years ago that they are working on a new title I told my coworker how awesome it would be if they would take their engine and knowledge of procgen and just made a rpg on one planet.
The idea of one planet is there...it might not be an rpg with quests, a story, voice over etc and end up as an action adventure with the written lore and sparse story like NMS...but the concept alone and Hello Games' track record when it comes to ideas, passion and continuosly working on it and updating it...man, I didn't think it would be possible to be as excited again as I was 2013 at the VGX stream when I saw the first trailer for NMS, but here we are
When Murray revealed two or three years ago that they are working on a new title I told my coworker how awesome it would be if they would take their engine and knowledge of procgen and just made a rpg on one planet.
The idea of one planet is there...it might not be an rpg with quests, a story, voice over etc and end up as an action adventure with the written lore and sparse story like NMS...but the concept alone and Hello Games' track record when it comes to ideas, passion and continuosly working on it and updating it...man, I didn't think it would be possible to be as excited again as I was 2013 at the VGX stream when I saw the first trailer for NMS, but here we are
Majukun
Member
i don't care.
if you spit in my eye and then pass 8 years cleaning it up, you are still the guy who spit in my eye.
what they did pre release is unacceptable, no matter how much "amend" they can do; if it wasn't , why would any studio be honest ever again,if you can just fix the game afterwards with the money you made by lying to your customers, and be treated like a hero for doing so?
Killjoy-NL
Member
Imagine being stuck in the past and grumpy, while the rest has moved on and enjoying themselves.
8 years have passed and NMS might be the biggest comeback in gaming history.
Still being butthurt in 2023 seems rather childish.
lughnasadh123
Member
The ambition and procedural generation is iffy to me. It sounds incredible IF they can pull this off.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
The artful mincer
Member
Is there anything they could do to make you happy? Forgiveness is kinda important in life.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
I think he mistook this thread for the random thoughts thread. It's the only explanation that makes sense.
Also, this game just oozes fun. Can't wait.
Tommi84
Member
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The artful mincer
Member
If you are still concerned about what this game will be like at launch.
Don't Fucking buy the Fucking game at Fucking Launch you Fucking idiots!
Thanks have a good day!
Don't Fucking buy the Fucking game at Fucking Launch you Fucking idiots!
Thanks have a good day!
SirTerry-T
Member
This...and the fact the poster is getting that wound up over a videogame.
GHG
Member
Just don't pre-order.
We will know what state it's in at launch. If it's good enough you can just buy on day of release.
EDMIX
Member
No trust day 1, but long term.......this is the team to trust for that support lol
Killjoy-NL
Truth. I think they are right to not buy day 1, but I disagree with the idea that it took 8 years. The biggest missing feature that was talked about was Multiplayer, all the other stuff was small and fixed before that release anyway. So release on August 2016, MP released summer 2018, so roughly 2 years. I have no clue where that person is getting 8 years lol
It was cleaned up within 2 and then the proceed to add a fuck ton a features on top of that, for free...that was never even talked about or promised.
Thats like getting everything in CP2077, trains, working ai with cars, car customization, apartment customization, return to the original RPG features 3rd person swappable, all in 2 fucking years, then cry for several more years as they add base building, multiplayer, space travel, gang wars, all free mind you. Shiiiiiit I'd STFU if they did all that lol
Hello Games should have been transparent about their issues, but the meat of what was being talked about at launch was given and then some within those 2 years, everything else after is a cherry on top and beyond what I'd ever expect any developer to even do post launch.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
Fair enough.No trust day 1, but long term.......this is the team to trust for that support lol
So release on August 2016, MP released summer 2018, so roughly 2 years. I have no clue where that person is getting 8 years lol
It was cleaned up within 2 and then the proceed to add a fuck ton a features on top of that, for free...that was never even talked about or promised.
Thats like getting everything in CP2077, trains, working ai with cars, car customization, apartment customization, return to the original RPG features 3rd person swappable, all in 2 fucking years, then cry for several more years as they add base building, multiplayer, space travel, gang wars, all free mind you. Shiiiiiit I'd STFU if they did all that lol
Hello Games should have been transparent about their issues, but the meat of what was being talked about at launch was given and then some within those 2 years, everything else after is a cherry on top and beyond what I'd ever expect any developer to even do post launch.
Didn't know the exact timeline and noticed 8 years being mentioned, so I went with that.
Given HG trackrecord irt support, I have little doubt they won't fix any launch-issues and add onto the game, like they did with NMS.
This could even far exceed NMS if they have social multiplayer from day 1.