Arun1910
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Expect this for most games until 2023/4.
The majority of players are still on last gen and a lot of games started development before the new consoles were announced.
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Horizon: Forbidden West State of Play announced for May 27th
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The majority of players are still on last gen and a lot of games started development before the new consoles were announced.
THEAP99
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I like the tropical route they're going, reminds me of uncharted 4
Techno_Inked
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I hope so, except for sales bragging. I don't feel sales bragging should be done around this time. It's better to do this another time with blog posts.
The concern for me is that Playstation decides to not do an event at all after this State of Play. I doubt they would act like this. But it's a possibility.
Bo_Hazem
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I'm happy that it has many different biomes like desert, sea/underwater, jungles! Just watched a movie on Netflix yesterday that brings some of this (Love and Monsters).
Loved the indoors and abandoned ruins in HZD as well.
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Classicrockfan
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Maybe it’s time for me to platinum zero dawn?
Bo_Hazem
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I think that should've been done way back, but would be nice if combined in this event.
FunkMiller
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This is excellent news. I’m not actually sure that Forbidden West is a game I’ll buy, because I couldn’t get into the first game, but it’ll be great to see some gameplay footage to assess how it’s shaping up as a cross gen game. Is it going to look and play significantly better on Ps5?
GuinGuin
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Which hardware Kraken and Oodle decompression PS5 is more like 17.3 GB/S
GuinGuin
Banned
From what we have already seen it's far better looking than the original.
TheTechnician
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i dont know , i see a PS4 Game in these Screenshots..
mxbison
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If those are anywhere close to real screenshots, that's absolutely nuts.
How are they planning to run this thing on a PS4?
Bo_Hazem
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Downgrade it, of course, and run it at 1080p@30fps.
GuinGuin
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Hobbygaming
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Playstation are masters at being strategic around their competitors announcements. They will have amazing games to show
SinDelta
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Yeah I would get a PS5 for this, games I've already said I want aside.Just a reminder of this masterpiece! (PNG direct feed from PS Blog flickr account)
First HZD looked much better on retail than the reveal, would it be the case now? And how far can they go from here?
Excitement!
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Well this a weird announcement considering how close E3 is. This gives me some hope that the game will release this year. I do question why they didn't just put this on their E3-ish show. I'm still looking forward to seeing the game coming out even though it is a last gen port since I really did enjoy the first game.
SinDelta
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Very smart of Sony to get all this attention now, while E3 may have possible megatons that have been MIA for the past 3+ years at least that could overshadow this (Half-Life 3/Elden Ring/Breath of the Wild 2/Metroid Prime 4/Bayonetta 3 to name a few of many possibilities.) There is also the Dragon Quest 35th anniversary event this week.
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SlimySnake
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It's still the same exact game. Visuals look identical aside from ray traced reflections and you get more traffic density and crowd but other than that everything is the same.
Gameplay is identical too.
Here is what I expect from PS5 games. Cross gen or not.
- Destruction. Trees need to cut down. They need to burn down if you are using fire arrows. They need to explode if you are using explosive arrows. Foliage needs to react accordingly. I want to leave a giant mess behind after every fight.
- Flying. Cant stress this enough. If the PS4 version comes out and doesnt have flying. Good. But that doesnt excuse flying not being in the PS5 version. Fast Travel isnt good enough. I cant jerk off to that.
- Way higher quality character models. Character models in Miles look identical. Not good enough.
If Sony delivers another Miles like game then they are no better than Ubisoft who shipped an identical version of Watch Dogs with RT being the only differentiator. And arguably worse than the money hungry whores over at Take2 and EA who added brand new modes, brand new character models, brand new cutscenes and stadium models in NBA and Fifa. THAT is what cross gen should be. Not Miles, RE8 or Watch dogs.
Balducci30
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Yesss. Finally it starts
CamHostage
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If the game is actually coming out this year, then not really. E3 will probably be mostly about future games in 2022 and beyond, or things we haven't had a chance to see yet. (Also, although E3 will be "digital" this year, probably some of these publisher events will have a few journalist hands-on sessions now that things are opening up, and so something like Horizon FW would have playable previews scheduled since it's that far along.
Evilms
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SinDelta
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As someone who loves the Legend of Zelda series, if Nintendo does not improve on the flaws that Breath of the Wilds shift in design entailed (and it did discard a lot of good elements from prior Zelda titles along with the bad) and build on its strengths for BotW 2, I may actually prioritize getting Horizon Forbidden West.
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That's the thing I was really thinking the game was going to come out early next year since Ratchet and Clank was coming out next month. Sony releasing it this year is a good move since it would be competing with Halo. The only thing now is when is starfield going to come out. If it comes out early next year will god of war be duking it out with it.
Bo_Hazem
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Sony is planning to keep the GOTY award for the whole generation. Glad they're reportedly pushing GOW:R for next year instead of competing in this too easy for Sony year where R&C and Horizon FW will compete for the GOTY alone.
SinDelta
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Both of those games will likely be great to possible masterpiece but I would not count out Monster Hunter Rise. That game I think is a strong contender for GOTY especially once patch 3 hits. Also Returnal should be in the running I think? I've seen people say Village also, but eh. The year is still ongoing, and a lot of huge announcements and reveals likely have yet to drop.
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Varteras
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Bo_Hazem
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Both MHR and Returnal will win respectful genre awards, but doubt they'll be GOTY.
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AlexxKidd
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Fingers crossed.
Now you got me wondering what will be Sony's GOTY for 2023.
GuinGuin
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In no universe will Monster Hunter get GOTY
SinDelta
Member
Opinions. I personally think Rise is one of the best games I've played this year, but that could change. Horizon Forbidden West could very likely be the game that surpasses it for me (if it is releasing this year. Also comparing apples and oranges, but I'll be happy both games exist regardless of GOTY outcome.)
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BatSu
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Just a reminder of this masterpiece! (PNG direct feed from PS Blog flickr account)
First HZD looked much better on retail than the reveal, would it be the case now? And how far can they go from here?
Excitement!
mortal
Gold Member
Oh I'm aware, as that's par for the course with the start of every new console gen.
However, Horizon 2 is the odd one out as far Sony's 1st party is concerned. I doubt GOW Ragnarok will be crossgen, but I could be wrong.
Last gen Guerrilla started with both feet fully planted into next gen with Killzone Shadowfall. So it's surprising and slightly disappointing for me to see them designing Horizon 2 with nearly decade old hardware in mind.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the retail PS5 version of Horizon 2 will look absolutely gorgeous and run wonderfully, but PS5 exclusive would've be even more promising. The prospect of Guerilla being unfettered by last gen is more enticing imo. They are a very resourceful and ambitious studio no doubt, but there's only so much the PS4 can do. We're talking about nearly decade old hardware here after all.
Maybe you're right, and they already had most of the foundation laid down before transitioning development over to the PS5.
That revelation certainly tempered my expectations so maybe that's for the better.
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Bo_Hazem
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They're silent for a reason.
SLB1904
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what are you talking about?
Bo_Hazem
Banned
I think it'll win something. As long as a game wins something in the Game Awards and it's well-received globally that's an easy indication of a quality game. GOT didn't win the the main GOTY but the fan voted GOTY, and it's my 2nd best game of all time after GOW 2018 (TLOU2 comes 3rd).
The most fierce competition was between GOW and RDR2 in 2018.
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Salmon Snake
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I predict that they also announce Horizon Zero Dawn 60fps PS5 update downloadable NOW.
Shortly after that we'll get Death Stranding PS5 update just because Decima.
Shortly after that we'll get Death Stranding PS5 update just because Decima.
We’ve only seen a cgi trailer so far, though. The game was made to run on PS4, first and foremost, so it can’t look that much better than the first one.
GuinGuin
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That was realtime, brother.
CamHostage
Member
Timelines were a little different then. They put out KZ2 in 2009, 3 in 2011, and SF in 2013. Probably they were working on 3 while prototyping Shadowfall and building the PS4 engine. (I think Horizon was also in nascent stages somewhere back around that time too.) Now, Decima is a major technology loaned to other studios. So it's a different focus.
If they went full-on with Horizon as just a PS5 game, it would have gained some qualities (although like I said, I do believe it would have been less of a big deal in breakthrough next-gen tech than people assume looking at the specs, it's just too early in the gen to make the most of it,) but it would not have been a 2021 game if it had been made on a next-gen Decima instead of an improved version of the current engine. And if the current engine can kick down a PS4 version, so be it.
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