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It's not for you.
I know a few people that have one and they love it. It's for them.
It's not for you.
I know a few people that have one and they love it. It's for them.
It just makes no sense. If you want the next-gen experience, why not get the PS5 Digital for $400 that's 2.5x stronger?
If you can't afford $500, then you can't afford $300. It's a marginal difference and a console is purely a luxury item that no one really "Needs."i
This. There are a million people out there who play Fortnite and other f2p games that don’t care about 4K or anything else. They want something inexpensive that does the trick, that’s the Series S.The Series S is not made for you or anyone on this forum. Its made for people that:
- Only play FIFA/Madden/2k/Fortnite/COD every year and thats it
- A gamepass machine
- A secondary console
It should never be anyone's primary console if you are a gamer
Yes everyone we know are tech enthusiasts.
Juggle 6 plus games? I don’t know if it can even juggle 2 CODs. It’s neutered and can’t even juggle it’s own balls.This is such a bizarre thread, OP.
You don't notice that it has an SSD and can juggle 6+ games on Quick Resume with instant loading and swapping on the fly? I don't see how that's actually possible.
The console is £249. I don't know what you expected for that kind of money, but clearly you've set your expectation level to silly.
I have a Series X, but I love Series S because it goes in my backpack and travels with me so ridiculously easily. It's clearly not what you're looking for in an Xbox, but I'd suggest it fits well as a Game Pass box, a second console for PS owners, an emulation machine or, like for me, a great option for commute.
PS5 DE has Game Pass now? Sweet.
Yes everyone we know are tech enthusiasts.
This. There are a million people out there who play Fortnite and other f2p games that don’t care about 4K or anything else. They want something inexpensive that does the trick, that’s the Series S.
PS5 DE has Game Pass now? Sweet.
If you don't have an Xbox One then XSS is a great box to buy for Game Pass. PS5 doesn't make anything irrelevant except PS4. That is unless you can play 3 generations of Xbox games on PS5.You Don't need the XSS for that. Game Pass is a good value, but its not something you buy an XSS for. You can just stay on the One S or One X for that.
Again the PS5 DE makes the XSS irrelevant.
Let me be clear, I'm in no way hating on Microsoft or the console I'm just stating my own opinion on what I experienced from using the console for a couple of months.
For me, the console feels like any other Xbox system that has been out when it comes to the Xbox One. It feels just like the Xbox One and plays like it too. I don't see any difference in performance and visuals, maybe that's because I still don't have a 4KTV yet maybe that's the main issue I'm having but let me be clear. If that's the case then I don't find it fair to those who still haven't upgrade yet to 4K. I thought the Series S was meant for both 1080p and 4K tv and monitors. I played games that are meant for "next-gen" and I don't see anything brand new, not even 60fps. I can understand the lack of 120Fps because you are supposed to have a tv or monitor that supports 120hz. Even my gaming PC does that, in order for me to see beyond 120fps, I have to activate 144hz which is what my monitor has running.
I don't know maybe I'm doing it wrong and really need to upgrade but I feel like having the Series S is a waste of time and I don't understand why Microsoft made it. Hardly anyone talks about it and that to me is a big turn off because it feels like I made a mistake in buying it.
No One who doesn't have an Xbox is going to pick up a new console to play old xbox games from 12 years ago.If you don't have an Xbox One then XSS is a great box to buy for Game Pass. PS5 doesn't make anything irrelevant except PS4. That is unless you can play 3 generations of Xbox games on PS5.
Its sold out every where.Except it's not selling well at all.
Units plz.Its sold out every where.
They mostly refer to Europe..... Just to say it's not selling well.Its sold out every where.
You're not really this dense are you?Units plz.
UNITS PLZ.You're not really this dense are you?
4k and 60 fps stole next-gen's lunch ..
Remember when Mark Cerny said 8 TFLOPS is needed for true 4K gaming. That was during last gen when AAA games were 90% 30fps. Now people expected 60 so double that to 16TFLOPS.. Add checkerboard/upscale/variable_rate_shading to get that back down to ~10TFLOPS and there's no horsepower left over for new games. Similar for CPU - they have 4x power, but half of that could be lost to doubling frame rate..
I think it is still a relevant factor to Microsoft from the Gamepass perspective. But we'll see what consumers make of its value proposition.Nice assessment. IMO the PS5 DE makes the XSS irrelevant.
Netflix is also entertainment, a PS5 or XSS is a luxury no one ever needs.Now tell us how poor people don't deserve entertainment.
Its sold out every where.
Yeah, I rather get a PS5, I feel burned out because of the Series S. The Series S seriously disappointed me and turned me off for gaming in general. The lack of games also killed it for me too.Sell it and get the Series X
Capable and Value are very subjective. To me, PS5 doesn't offer anything remotely close to the value of xbox game pass. PS5 might have better resolution than Xbox series s, but in terms of how many games you can get through xbox game pass day one vs what a normal spender can get through PS5 isn't even close.OP - You say you don't notice performance improvements but doesn't the Series S load games MUCH faster than Xbox One, and hold framerates much more consistently?
I have never used Series S but I thought a few analysis breakdowns did show it offered marked improvements over Xbox One in a few areas, or no? I think there is one game that offers Ray Tracing on the S, but I don't remember which.
Bingo.
The issue with the Series S is that it is only 100 bucks cheaper than the PS5 DE, which is significantly more capable/powerful/valuable. (edit: someone correct me if I am wrong, as I failed high school algebra 3x, but comparing XsS to PS5 DE ends up like: 25 percent cheaper price tag but 2.5x less GPU power, less RAM, 50% less SSD space, 50% slower SSD, 35% less RAM, assuming I am correct then it is hard to find the value proposition, even with the excellent Game Pass library)
If not $199, then $249 at the most.
In hindsight, I wonder if MS wishes they had just done a discless XsX and not gone with two polarized SKUs in terms of power/performance. edit: Or, at least made the Series S more powerful, closer to 8TF instead of 4.
Well I'm sure the PS5 will reinvigorate your love for gaming. If you were so interested in PS5 why didn't you get that in the first place? Most of the people here would have suggested the PS5 from the beginning.Yeah, I rather get a PS5, I feel burned out because of the Series S. The Series S seriously disappointed me and turned me off for gaming in general. The lack of games always killed it for me too.
I highly doubt there will be a mid gen console refresh seeing how these systems are gimped from the beginning of the generation. We'll also have to see how downgraded the XSS will be seeing how it is already doing things last gen consoles could not.I wonder if Sony and Microsoft were hedging their bets a bit and worried that the pandemic and current recession would make it hard to sell a $500 console? Sony’s implementation was probably better as it won’t force Sony to create downgraded versions of future games.
With the incredible success of the $500 price point, I wonder if Microsoft will quietly walk back the S? Or will they force support for three versions of their games when the inevitable Series XX or whatever comes out?
First off this has nothing to do with being able to afford it. It has to do with the availability of what they had. The PS5 is extremely hard to get. People will jump you if you have one while walking around the store or out. My boy, this has nothing to do with pricing lolIt just makes no sense. If you want the next-gen experience, why not get the PS5 Digital for $400 that's 2.5x stronger?
If you can't afford $500, then you can't afford $300. It's a marginal difference and a console is purely a luxury item that no one really "Needs."
Yeah if the PS5 is easy to get. It's not as easy as going to a phone store and getting an iPhone 12 Pro Max. If that was the case, I would've never gotten the Xbox.Well I'm sure the PS5 will reinvigorate your love for gaming. If you were so interested in PS5 why didn't you get that in the first place? Most of the people here would have suggested the PS5 from the beginning.
The XSS is a great console for the audience its for.
I wonder if Sony and Microsoft were hedging their bets a bit and worried that the pandemic and current recession would make it hard to sell a $500 console? Sony’s implementation was probably better as it won’t force Sony to create downgraded versions of future games.
With the incredible success of the $500 price point, I wonder if Microsoft will quietly walk back the S? Or will they force support for three versions of their games when the inevitable Series XX or whatever comes out?
That's not how things work my dude, it's $400 or nothing. Ohh and plus tax and shipping.Well, if you don't want it. I'll buy it from you... And no I'm not paying above retail price
Guess I did.You dun goofed
Some of you guys are delusional, seriously. You think that ms made an entire new console in a matter of months because Sony announced a digital console? Never mind the fact that the console is in the background on a few videos from ms, and also digital foundry were shown it long before the reveal, or the leaks about ms having a 2 console approach to this gen from before any next gen console was revealed, you think it was a reaction to Sony? Lol. Absurd.That's my main issue with the Series S when it comes to value.
Without the existence of the PS5 DE the Series S is a pretty good value. At 200$ less it allows you to play next gen games at Upto 1440P which is enough for many people.
However when it's compared to the PS5 DE it doesn't seem like a good value to me. Especially when the PS5 DE is alot more powerful than it at only 100$ extra.
And your last paragraph is pretty interesting. I'm wondering if Microsoft only made the Series S because they were just expecting one SKU from Sony. I'm wondering if the PS5 DE caught them off guard.
You heard it here folks $200 is basically nothing. Most of my bills are under $200 so I am going to stop paying them and when the creditors complain I'll just say 'c'mon, there is only a marginal difference between $0 & $150'.
Some people rather spend the extra 200 dollars on games rather than 4k resolution.He's right, and you aren't. There's a difference between $1,000 and $10,000. But $300 and $500? It's basically the same price over the period of 7 years. If you can't walk to the store right now and pay $300 for something without breaking a sweat, you shouldn't be spending the money.
Have a look at the price of the One S. Have a look at the price of the PS4 and Xbox One S.Which casual gamer rushes out to buy a new console without new games in the first month its out?
Some people rather spend the extra 200 dollars on games rather than 4k resolution.
Depends. For a casual (only buys one or two games a year) it is a lot of money because consoles aren't a necessity and depreciates in value fast. Besides cheap and convenient gaming, consoles doesn't offer anything that you can't get elsewhere. It isn't like before where consoles offer a lot of value with its features.And that's fine. That wasn't his argument. His argument was that $200 is not negligible and is a substantial amount of money. If it is to you, then you need to be more responsible with your money before spending it on game consoles.
Absolutely, but people are not good with money in general, and almost double the price for the big boi consoles is a significant jump that is beyond many people. Like others have said, if you’ve budgeted $300 for a console, $500 is out of the question. Even people that can afford it won’t spend $500 if they’re only budgeted $300. Where does it stop - oh if you can afford 500 you can afford 900? If you can afford 1000 you can afford 1500?And that's fine. That wasn't his argument. His argument was that $200 is not negligible and is a substantial amount of money. If it is to you, then you need to be more responsible with your money before spending it on game consoles.
Depends. For a casual (only buys one or two games a year) it is a lot of money because consoles aren't a necessity and depreciates in value fast. Besides cheap and convenient gaming, consoles doesn't offer anything that you can't get elsewhere.