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[Explosive Zombie]

All he meant was games will come to PC, a platform dominated by Microsoft's Windows platform and many of the games only being accessible via Windows store or XBOX Gamepass for PC. So... he kinda meant nothing.

 

[LazyParrot]

I've said in another thread already but take Hellblade's example where it was on PS4 first before Ninja Theory's acquisition and the sequel is console exclusive. Why would it be different with the new studios?

How much did they spend on Ninja Theory? The more you spend, the bigger the pressure to recoup your investment.

I can't help but feel like MS overpaid when they put down 7.5 billion for Zenimax. Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 were a disappointment and a disaster respectively, and most of the other games they published sold below expectations despite good reviews, and that's with them being available on PS4, a console with twice the install base of Xbox. If they keep new games exclusive they will not be cheaper to develop, but their audience and number of potential buyers will be much smaller due to Sony being out of the picture. I can see them releasing games like TES on PS5 eventually (although probably with a significant delay) just to make their money back.

 

[Slothbeing1209]

Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo Will Remain Timed-Exclusives for PS5 in Light of Xbox Acquisition

Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo will still be coming to PS5 first, Xbox's Phil Spencer has confirmed.

www.dualshockers.com

no one update this???

 

[Bryank75]

My favourite is when Bryank75 calls Microsoft "Spiteful" for their recent actions.

Imagine being a grown as man and thinking this aquisition was spiteful haha.

I hope future games go to PS5 same day. In saying that I can understand if Microsoft don't want to.

Stop being spiteful!

 

[Knitted Knight]

Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo Will Remain Timed-Exclusives for PS5 in Light of Xbox Acquisition

Deathloop and Ghostwire: Tokyo will still be coming to PS5 first, Xbox's Phil Spencer has confirmed.

www.dualshockers.com

no one update this???

They can't break the contract. Stuck with that whether they like it or not. They knew that when they bought them. You can make the thread if not already made.

 

[kuncol02]

Phil wanted to avoid an internet tantrum so he gave a "we'll see" type answer like you would tell a little kid.

He basically said to all Sony fans:
"We can still be friends."

 

[Portugeezer]

Phil "Lie" DiSpencer is probably bullshitting.

 

[danielJackson]

If/when PS5 sells 2-3:1 vs xbox, are they willing to lose millions of customers?

Xbox+pc is bigger user base, but on consoles it is like they would give away 60-80% of their sales.

If they do business for money, they have only timed exclusives

 

[The Cartographer]

There's no way the new games will get the Minecraft treatment.

 

[Bryank75]

If/when PS5 sells 2-3:1 vs xbox, are they willing to lose millions of customers?

Xbox+pc is bigger user base, but on consoles it is like they would give away 60-80% of their sales.

If they do business for money, they have only timed exclusives

Gonna be over 3:1 this gen.
It has already begun.

 

[sid2vicious]

 

[Knitted Knight]

Gonna be over 3:1 this gen.
It has already begun.

No gif?

 

[Bryank75]

No gif?

Thank you, my friend!

 

[Leyasu]

Microsoft dropped big bucks to have more content on their service. They are not going to put that on PlayStation.

It’s over

 

[thelastword]

Well we know Phil is not the most honest, the king of 180's. But after their contractual obligations with Ghostwire and Deathloop, I expect MS to clutch all the newly acquired IP's as exclusive.....Doom Eternal and ports of Doom 2016, if they already have a remake of Prey and Evil Within in the works it should make it's way on PS....

 

[Leyasu]

Gonna be over 3:1 this gen.
It has already begun.

This gen is in the bag for Sony.

Things will start to change in about 5 yrs and the the gen after won’t be the same.

Bookmark this post

 

[Bryank75]

This gen is in the bag for Sony.

Things will start to change in about 5 yrs and the the gen after won’t be the same.

Bookmark this post

You expect Xbox to continue with hardware?

 

[Cockles & Whelks]

Starfield *might* it's a new IP and the grunt work is done.

Fallout 5 and Elder Scrolls on the other hand...

 

[Orky]

If Sony allows Game Pass on the PS5 without taking a 30% cut then MS would do it. They might even sell the standalone games on PS5 as a way to promote Game Pass, just like they do on Steam. But I don't see Sony and MS coming to an agreement on this anytime soon.

dude. They didn’t even allow ea access back then. They will NEVER allow game pass. NEVER.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I don’t see MS big dick dropping 7.5 billion dollars to keep all those games multi platform.

They want Xbox and gamepass to look better.

 

[Starfield]

Buy gamepass and play fucking Starfield on your phone if you're concerned about having to buy new equipment. That's what gamepass and xcloud is about.

Fortunately there is a product for you if you don't have access to an internet connection, it's called, real life.

 

[Gandih42]

I doubt they'll be putting much of Bethesdas IP out on PS in the future. Perhaps games currently in development or smaller games that are unlikely to draw people into the Xbox ecosystem. It just seems like a much more long sighted plan to keep their newly acquired strong IPs such as Fallout and Elder Scrolls on PC/Xbox, unless the Series X flops horribly (which I personally don't see happening).

I'd be sad to not play ES6 on a PS5 but I'm hopeful Microsoft will be stronger next-gen to give Sony more competition. I don't really care about whatever PR speak Phil Spencer says, seeing what actions Microsoft takes is what I'm looking forward to.

 

[Starfield]

Sony has no games so they had to buy some timed exclusives from MICROSOFT to have some games on their console

 

[Achillias]

You have to buy a Xbox if you want to play those games. Don't be delusional, otherwise release Gran Turismo 7 on the Xbox platform as well. But that won't happen. Same for you Playstation fans, you won't be playing new titles from that studio anymore on your console. From now on its Xbox console exclusive. And if you want to play it then buy it on pc.

 

[Leyasu]

You expect Xbox to continue with hardware?

Of course. There is still money to be made. What do you think that they won’t? It is nothing more than a fanboys wet dream that Microsoft drop the hardware. They won’t. All about subscriber numbers

 

[sixamp]

It's truly amazing how this acquisition affected people. I mean it's post after post about phil lies, it's not fair, things need to change blah blah. A big company bought another company to service their platform . Buying exclusives suck but buying the company that makes the exclusives is investing in your future. There's a difference so I don't think phil lies or is a sith Lord

 

[Hendrick's]

When Phil says other platforms, what he is really saying is wherever there is Game Pass.

 

[Drewpee]

To preface lets bring forth the words of wise salesman Phil Spencer when discussing exclusive games and exclusivity in general:

"It's completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy a specific device"

Further:

“As a player you are the centre of our strategy,” Spencer said. “Our device is not the centre of our strategy, our game is not the centre of the strategy. We want to enable you to play the games you want to play, with the friends you want to play with, on any device.

“On TV, the Xbox console is going to be the best way to play console games. Xbox Series X is the most powerful console out there and it will have absolutely the best versions of our console games. But that’s not to exclude other people from being able to play.”

“Sorry, I am a bit soapboxy with this one. Gaming is about entertainment and community and diversion and learning new stories and new perspectives, and I find it completely counter to what gaming is about to say that part of that is to lock people away from being able to experience those games. Or to force someone to buy my specific device on the day that I want them to go buy it, in order to partake in what gaming is about.”

With that clear philosophical stance in mind do you think; after Deathloop (A PS5 Console timed exclusive), and Ghostwire Tokyo (a PS5 Console timed exclusive) that future Bethesda games will release on the PS5? Games like the rumored Starfield, a future Doom, Elder Scrolls VI or Fallout?

Was Phil simply BSing and lying trying to buy his time by sweet talking his base?
Will Phil hold true to his word and release the games on all systems?
Will Phil do what's counter to what gaming is about and make those future titles Gamepass exclusives?

Interesting to see what the future will hold. What do you think?

For the Sony fans not coping well....... you can at least take consolation, for the time being, in the fact that you'll get to enjoy the next two Bethesda titles, Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo first over any other console. After that well..... betting odds say you shouldn't bet on Phil Spencer's words.... but no one will blame you for holding out on 1/250 odds - never impossible - just improbable.

This article really caught my attention in the mist of the opinion chaos.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/i...bethesda-isnt-about-exclusivity/1100-6482479/

I hope the games come to Playstation and Sony gamers have a chance to play them as well but let's be clear about something; if Sony bought Bethesda this wouldnt even be a conversation, Sony wouldn't share the games and their fans wouldn't want them too.

If the new MGS remake is true, how many on here are going to push for it to not be a Sony exclusive?

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

I am sorry OP, but both the Boss of microsoft and the Boss of xbox, they clearly stated that these are INVESTMENTS THAT AIM TO ENHANCE THE CONTENT OF THEIR PLATFORM.

You should just feel good that microsoft is still letting the time exclusivity deal for the two games on ps5, then just forget about any of the big bethesda games coming to playstation.
Games that are online gaas games, like elder scrolls online, sure. anything more than that, I really don't see it happening.

 

[Bryank75]

I am sorry OP, but both the Boss of microsoft and the Boss of xbox, they clearly stated that these are INVESTMENTS THAT AIM TO ENHANCE THE CONTENT OF THEIR PLATFORM.

You should just feel good that microsoft is still letting the time exclusivity deal for the two games on ps5, then just forget about any of the big bethesda games coming to playstation.
Games that are online gaas games, like elder scrolls online, sure. anything more than that, I really don't see it happening.

How does it enhance, when those games were always going to be on Xbox?

 

[The Leaked Truths]

Phil Spencer NEVER said that he will release games on the PlayStation platform!!!

What he meant was XBox, PC and Mobile Phones (xCloud). And every device where Game Pass is on.

There will be a few exceptions for Nintendo platforms because of the good relationship and because Nintendo is not Microsoft's direct competitor, but Microsoft will not release further games on PlayStation until Sony allows Game Pass on their PlayStation platform.

These false informed Threads where OP's try to spin words to let good persons like Phil Spencer look like a liar and with 0 Minutes of research is a new low even for NeoGaf!!!

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

How does it enhance, when those games were always going to be on Xbox?

I am pretty sure you can figure this out if you think about it for a minute or two

 

[Bryank75]

I am pretty sure you can figure this out if you think about it for a minute or two

Naaa you have to figure it out...'

It diminishes other platforms, it doesn't enhance anything on Xbox because they were always going to get those games anyway.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

Gonna be over 3:1 this gen.
It has already begun.

I think Series X and PS5 are going to be putting identical sales numbers within first two months from their launch. From 2021 Q2 we will know ifthe sales gap is there or not!

 

[CrashNBurn_281]

I fully expect after contract obligations, Bethesda games will be Xbox/PC exclusive.

If Bethesda is important to you, buy a PC or Xbox. After the announcement I bit the bullet and preordered the Series X for Bethesda games as I dont PC game much.

A lot of salty people, adapt. At least PC is an option for Xbox owned IP.

 

[Mr. PlayStation]

I fully expect after contract obligations, Bethesda games will be Xbox/PC exclusive.

If Bethesda is important to you, buy a PC or Xbox. After the announcement I bit the bullet and preordered the Series X for Bethesda games as I dont PC game much.

A lot of salty people, adapt. At least PC is an option for Xbox owned IP.

Oh hellz yeah now I have a real reason to buy a Series X, can't wait to own one post getting a PS5 on launch day. I always wanted to own more than one console and perhaps next gen might finally allow me to do it. Fingers crossed on seeing life head towards better financial improvements!

 

[Leyasu]

How does it enhance, when those games were always going to be on Xbox?

In a subscription service, content is king. Microsoft knows this. They are getting themselves into a position where
A, they don’t have to rely heavily on third parties

B, I f someone else throws their hat into the sub service market, Microsoft will be far ahead of them , thus making the entry fee to prohibitive.

 

[Bryank75]

In a subscription service, content is king. Microsoft knows this. They are getting themselves into a position where
A, they don’t have to rely heavily on third parties

B, I f someone else throws their hat into the sub service market, Microsoft will be far ahead of them , thus making the entry fee to prohibitive.

Could have made a contract for that...

 

[Tiamat2san]

He said case by case .
some might be released on other system, maybe games with online multiplayer.

 

[Leyasu]

Could have made a contract for that...

Not really. Because once that contract is finished and the game released, you need to have the next game in development.

Why waste time on contracts, when you can have Your own studio make the game

 

[Leyasu]

He said case by case .
some might be released on other system, maybe games with online multiplayer.

Maybe nothing. I am not getting my hopes up for games being anything other than exclusives going forward

 

[Bryank75]

Not really. Because once that contract is finished and the game released, you need to have the next game in development.

Why waste time on contracts, when you can have Your own studio make the game

Longterm contract... 10-20 years.

 

[brian0057]

I mean... the Switch is getting XBOX games so why wouldn't they also come to PlayStation?
It's also hard to call a game "exclusive" when it also releases on PC.

 

[quest]

How does it enhance, when those games were always going to be on Xbox?

When? Sony was money hatting every zenimax game one by one. If Phil thinks about releasing starfield on playstation he will be eaten alive by his warriors. Sony went after starfield and it would of been money hat 3. So maybe Microsoft gamers get these but years later and have a dead content starved platform from Sony going way over the top on money hats.

 

[TheGreatWhiteShark]

I mean... the Switch is getting XBOX games so why wouldn't they also come to PlayStation?
It's also hard to call a game "exclusive" when it also releases on PC.

I predict that this starting generation, it will be the biggest generation of port-begging than ever before in gaming history

 

[Drewpee]

How does it enhance, when those games were always going to be on Xbox?

This just made me Lol, I have used this EXACT argument when explaining how Sony pushing for exclusivity with games like FF16 is an issue. Sony was trying to do the same with Bethesda games and has two timed exclusives coming out as a result.

I dont see many Sony fans coming out against the exclusivity practice. It is the same action Microsoft took, but Microsoft can play the game in ways Sony can only dream of. I think this should be a lesson for Sony about who they are really competing with.

 

[Bryank75]

This just made me Lol, I have used this EXACT argument when explaining how Sony pushing for exclusivity with games like FF16 is an issue. Sony was trying to do the same with Bethesda games and has two timed exclusives coming out as a result.

I dont see many Sony fans coming out against the exclusivity practice. It is the same action Microsoft took, but Microsoft can play the game in ways Sony can only dream of. I think this should be a lesson for Sony about who they are really competing with.

It's costing them billions to compete. To even try and catch up....

What if Sony buys a building near Bethesda and just offers better salaries and jobs? and drains them dry for a fraction of the money?

 

[Drewpee]

It's costing them billions to compete. To even try and catch up....

What if Sony buys a building near Bethesda and just offers better salaries and jobs? and drains them dry for a fraction of the money?

Why would Microsoft allow that to happen?

 

[Leyasu]

It's costing them billions to compete. To even try and catch up....

What if Sony buys a building near Bethesda and just offers better salaries and jobs? and drains them dry for a fraction of the money?

You need to drop the war mentality at the door.

Phil wasn’t lying when he said they are not rivals.

Microsoft are planning to be the platform with THE subscription service, that’s almost fully stocked with 1st party.

They need lots of quality content , and they are going to get it. They ain’t even looking at Sony this gen. They are getting their pieces in place and are seeing how much more they need to be self sufficient and getting all the monies for themselves.

They are moving in a different direction to Sony and Nintendo. Once people realize that, then the stupid console warring can hopefully stop to

As well, you are embarrassing yourself now. Just let it go

 

[Bryank75]

You need to drop the war mentality at the door.

Phil wasn’t lying when he said they are not rivals.

Microsoft are planning to be the platform with THE subscription service, that’s almost fully stocked with 1st party.

They need lots of quality content , and they are going to get it. They ain’t even looking at Sony this gen. They are getting their pieces in place and are seeing how much more they need to be self sufficient and getting all the monies for themselves.

They are moving in a different direction to Sony and Nintendo. Once people realize that, then the stupid console warring can hopefully stop to

As well, you are embarrassing yourself now. Just let it go

As long as they are making consoles, they are rivals. As long as they are pulling content from PS, they show that they consider themselves as rivals.