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[GDJustin]

Trying to guess the last 20, in no specific order:
Planescape
BG2
Fallout 2
FF6
Chrono Trigger
Dark Souls
WoW
Deus Ex
Diablo 2
KotoR
FF Tactics
Witcher 3
Pokemon Red/Blue
Persona 4
Mass Effect 2
Earthbound
Secret of Mana

I'm tired and can't think of three more.

You did very good.

 

[SarusGray]

Trying to guess the last 20, in no specific order:
Planescape
BG2
Fallout 2
FF6
Chrono Trigger
Dark Souls
WoW
Deus Ex
Diablo 2
KotoR
FF Tactics
Witcher 3
Pokemon Red/Blue
Persona 4
Mass Effect 2
Earthbound
Secret of Mana

I'm tired and can't think of three more.

Imma laugh when all of these are the top 20. This is very good haha

 

[Buckle]

*sees placement of Lunar games on the list*

The hell.

Silver Star Story is not better than Eternal Blue. I will fight you, IGN.

 

[Squire]

Dragon Age: Inquisition is a great game and deserves to be on this list.

Same for Origins. The salt is real though lol

 

[massoluk]

Trying to guess the last 20, in no specific order:
Planescape
BG2
Fallout 2
FF6
Chrono Trigger
Dark Souls
WoW
Deus Ex
Diablo 2
KotoR
FF Tactics
Witcher 3
Pokemon Red/Blue
Persona 4
Mass Effect 2
Earthbound
Secret of Mana

I'm tired and can't think of three more.

You probably just nailed it

 

[raven777]

Valkyrie Profile has to be in top 20 since it's not anywhere else in the list. They can't not put it on top 100....

 

[Scoops]

Xenoblade all the way down at 49?

I'm triggered.

 

[TatteredHat]

I don't see how you can evaluate Eve Online against Persona 5, this list makes no sense. "RPG" is way too broad a term to base a tier list on, it's like making a Top 100 "3rd person camera" games of all time.

 

[Drillary Clinton]

Same for Origins. The salt is real though lol

This place hates bioware

 

[FF Seraphim]

Chrono Trigger better be first

My thoughts as well. Only game I play every year.

 

[wondergorls]

I don't mind FFIV but it is a very basic RPG in my mind. I'm sure it was good for it times in terms of story and characters, but most FF are so I don't really get the placement above the others.

 

[Sephimoth]

FF4 and 12 higher than 7? What are they on?

 

[Megawarrior]

Ok I was being hyperbolic, but you get the point. Titanic is too janky in terms of characterization, etc. to be among the greats though.



The DQ series has been about being picky over who to gear out, since you seldom have the money to pimp your party every time you reach a new town. It's an additional layer of strategy.

Personally, I just grind for money outside the town to get what I want.

 

[Lord Panda]

Is Chrono trigger number 0?

Chrono Trigger is a fantastic game too so I will allow it if it makes you happy.

I've never played Ultima games myself so can't comment on those, but everything else on your list are games I can approve! Well done.

Ta, these games really shaped the way I viewed and enjoyed games in general

 

[eot]

Why do these lists never acknowledge KotOR 2?

 

[CloudWolf]

Skyrim is still way too high, but at least it's more reasonable than Game Informer's list

Why do these lists never acknowledge KotOR 2?

Same reason nobody ever acknowledges Alpha Protocol. It reviewed badly back in the day and people don't like backpedalling.

 

[hidys]

Why do these lists never acknowledge KotOR 2?

People were burned by how it was released, even if it is ultimately one of the greatest games ever made when modded.

Maybe it will be in the top 20 though I doubt it.

 

[Dynasty8]

FF4 and 12 higher than 7? What are they on?

Ya...it's really dumb. I never complain about "top lists", but it's sad that people have forgotten the importance of this game and what it did for the genre.

 

[massoluk]

FF4 and 12 higher than 7? What are they on?

Uh... Planet Earth

 

[Trigonometrize.]

Uh... Planet Earth

In that case...

 

[kromeo]

XII above VII is how it should be, you know it to be true.

People can have IV if they want, I never got a chance to play it until quite late, I'd already played VI and the three ps1 games by then so it didn't have a huge impact on me

 

[FallenGrace]

Ya...it's really dumb. I never complain about "top lists", but it's sad that people have forgotten the importance of this game and what it did for the genre.

Which is not the same as best. It no doubt paved a huge way for JRPGs in the west but that doesn't in itself make it the best RPG ever.

Don't get me wrong, I like the game a lot and replayed through it last year but there are better games in the genre in my opinion that haven't made the impact that VII did.

 

[Lanrutcon]

35. Baldur's Gate.
29. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

Unless the goddamn metric is "Dinosaurs fought" then I don't see any way this shit makes sense.

 

[1st Course]

FF4 and 12 higher than 7? What are they on?

These days it's cool to rank FF7 lower and have FF6 at #1.

 

[Murkas]

Nice to see MH4U, that was surprising to see.

 

[hidys]

35. Baldur's Gate.
29. Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

Unless the goddamn metric is "Dinosaurs fought" then I don't see any way this shit makes sense.

Baldurs Gate 2 is almost certainly going to be higher.

 

[Kill3r7]

Skyrim is still way too high, but at least it's more reasonable than Game Informer's list


Same reason nobody ever acknowledges Alpha Protocol. It reviewed badly back in the day and people don't like backpedalling.

People were burned by how it was released, even if it is ultimately one of the greatest games ever made when modded.

Maybe it will be in the top 20 though I doubt it.

Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines makes top 20 lists frequently and that game released in much worse shape. I like KOTOR 2 well enough but the story never seemed as epic as KOTOR.

Baldurs Gate 2 is almost certainly going to be higher.

BG2 is one of the best games ever made regardless of genre. So yeah one would think so.

 

[cartman414]

Nice. After seeing the GameInformer list snub TTYD in favor of the original Paper Mario, I was starting to wonder if this game was sliding through the cracks in terms of mindshare. Glad to see it get some more recognition.

It would mean admitting they were wrong.

 

[Dami3N]

Suikoden II on number 1, let's go.

This man gets it!!

 

[Rad-]

Suikoden 2 better be in top 20.

 

[Lothar]

Ya...it's really dumb. I never complain about "top lists", but it's sad that people have forgotten the importance of this game and what it did for the genre.

FF4 did more. Unless you're talking about popularity and how many games it sold which would be silly to consider for a best list. Before FF4, I remember having to grind in every RPG and none of them being worthwhile for story. After FF4, you had to grind in almost no RPG and it became expected for RPGs to have a huge focus on story. FF4 was the game to first give us ATB, which FF7 continued to use. FF4 was the first RPG I can remember where the soundtrack was amazing. After FF4, it felt like that became a requirement for all in the genre.

FF4 was more of a leap and more mind blowing for its time than FF7 was for its time.

 

[FinalAres]

FF4 did more. Unless you're talking about popularity and how many games it sold which would be silly to consider for a best list. Before FF4, I remember having to grind in every RPG and none of them being worthwhile for story. After FF4, you had to grind in almost no RPG and it became expected for RPGs to have a huge focus on story. FF4 was the game to first give us ATB, which FF7 continued to use. FF4 was the first RPG I can remember where the soundtrack was amazing. After FF4, it felt like that became a requirement for all in the genre.

FF4 was more of a leap and more mind blowing for its time than FF7 was for its time.

No it just wasn't. FF4 is an RPG with a story, those had come before. FF2 for example has a story that is just as intricate as FF4s, but even that was far from the first.

FF7 pioneered cinematic gaming full stop. It's a completely different level.

 

[Nictel]

Will update whenever it updates: http://www.ign.com/lists/top-100-rpgs//100

58 - Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals

Already better than the GI list.

 

[lawtowler]

FF12 over FF7 - I'm so triggered right now.

Bloodborne classed a better "RPG" than Persona 5. - I'm nopeing the fuck out of this now

 

[Greddleok]

MH4U is an RPG? 🤔

 

[HashtagLapsed]

Ultima IV and VII are more important than most FF games in my opinion. Ultima VII succeedes at stuff modern games still fail at matching to be honest.

Its a shame the series is overlooked so much these days.

 

[Aleh]

FFIX not better than IV and XII? Well... No... But I have to keep in mind all lists are subjective and as such, inherently wrong.

 

[J-Skee]

Brave Fencer Musashi never gets any love.

 

[Antiwhippy]

FF12 over FF7 - I'm so triggered right now.

Bloodborne classed a better "RPG" than Persona 5. - I'm nopeing the fuck out of this now

Like stats actually matter in bloodborne so yes?

 

[Elman]

I promised myself not to click on this thread, surely it can't be-

96 - Torchlight II
95 - Pillars of Eternity
90 - Divinity: Original Sin
89 - Dragon Age: Inquisition
77 - Valkyria Chronicles
76 - Icewind Dale II

Um... Alright, you know, to each their own, what's next-

75 - The Legend of Dragoon

 

[TheKastorian]

These days it's cool to rank FF7 lower and have FF6 at #1.

This. Hipster gamers, it's uncool to say that FF7 is the best Final Fantasy -let alone RPG- of all time.

 

[barybll]

Aslong FFXV dont appear im happy

 

[Vincent Grayson]

Like stats actually matter in bloodborne so yes?

Barely. Bloodborne is an action game with RPG elements, like all Souls titles.

 

[notaskwid]

Aslong FFXV dont appear im happy

Mean.

 

[Greddleok]

This. Hipster gamers, it's uncool to say that FF7 is the best Final Fantasy -let alone RPG- of all time.

Of course. Hipsters. Damn hipsters with their terrible taste.

 

[kswiston]

Trying to guess the last 20, in no specific order:
Planescape
BG2
Fallout 2
FF6
Chrono Trigger
Dark Souls
WoW
Deus Ex
Diablo 2
KotoR
FF Tactics
Witcher 3
Pokemon Red/Blue
Persona 4
Mass Effect 2
Earthbound
Secret of Mana

I'm tired and can't think of three more.

I'll guess Suikoden 2, Final Fantasy X, and Fallout 3 for the missing entries, in addition to everything you list.

Edit: Actually, cut one of the fallouts (probably 2) for Pokemon.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Barely. Bloodborne is an action game with RPG elements, like all Souls titles.

And their stats have heavy implications on the way you play and what equipment you can use?

 

[Aleh]

Also if Pokémon Red and Blue make the list at this point I don't know what to say. They certainly aren't better than Sun and Moon, or ANY other game in the series. Except maybe XY.

 

[lawtowler]

And their stats have heavy implications on the way you play and what equipment you can use?

So stats don't matter in P5? You could beat the game without worrying about any stat building? I think they matter a hell of a lot more than they do in BB.

 

[Antiwhippy]

So stats don't matter in P5? You could beat the game without worrying about any stat building? I think they matter a hell of a lot more than they do in BB.

I've beaten the whole game doing exactly that.

Had 0 trouble doing it too.