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[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

What are your thoughts on this GAF? Do you side with the dev or the customer in this specific instance?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

If only he had 1/10th of a AAA budget game

 

[kvltus lvlzvs]

I hope that his game gets delisted from steam and that he is barred from making future steam games. Off to epic games store or game pass with you, whiney millenial.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

This thread pairs great with this one:

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/revisiting-jonathan-blow-devtalk-we-dont-expect-software-to-work-anymore.1656312/

 

[tusharngf]

Dev guy seems salty to me

 

[BrunoCoel]

Damn he's really hot though.

 

[acm2000]

the consumer is nearly always to blame, especially gamer nerds

 

[diffusionx]

If you can’t support it then don’t sell it. That simple. Also: indie game devs really exposed themselves to be narcissist cunts on Twitter in a way that few other professions did (also: journalists).

 

[digoutyoursoul]

The tail wags the dog these days, social media phoneys have seen to that.

 

[Optimus Lime]

I was reading the thread and I thought 'I bet this guy has pronouns in his bio', scrolled up, and sure enough...

 

[MidGenRefresh]

My advice to this gentleman is: learn to code.

 

[Fuz]

 

[Puscifer]

If you can’t support it then don’t sell it. That simple. Also: indie game devs really exposed themselves to be narcissist cunts on Twitter in a way that few other professions did (also: journalists).

Phil Fish alone did some serious damage to the indie scene. I never wanted to buy an indie game after the way he behaved and acted he was superior to literally everyone else including Japanese developers who have a back catalog that on a bad day eclipse Fez on its best

 

[Heisenberg007]

If only he had 1/10th of a AAA budget game

 

[Raonak]

Dude is an absolute ass.

Getting mad about reviews of a 6 year old game that he doesn't maintain anymore...

 

[Gorgon]

Steam has a list of requirements for games, right? As long as that is clearly stated then he doesn't have any obligation to further support the game beyond the original requirements. If it's not clear what hardware/software the game requires and he doesn't support it anymore, than it's on the dev: don't sell it.

 

[SJRB]

I just feel kinda sad when I see meltdowns like these.

I mean, jesus dude, relax. Go out and touch some grass.

 

[Fuz]

I hope that his game gets delisted from steam and that he is barred from making future steam games. Off to epic games store or game pass with you, whiney millenial.

Before reading the twitter sequence I disagreed with this. I don't anymore.
He's been an ass and the other guy was even too civil.
And surprise surprise! A millennial with pronouns.

 

[Generic]

I hope that his game gets delisted from steam and that he is barred from making future steam games. Off to epic games store or game pass with you, whiney millenial.

Not gonna happen, Epic Store and Gamepass are more curated than Steam. Valve allows millions of shovelware to be released on their platform.

 

[TheDreadBaron]

Totally understand this guy’s private thoughts, probably shouldn’t have made them public. There’s an endless supply of whiny dorks who will whine, you have to just put on your customer service face as a dev or ignore them.

 

[Mozzarella]

I dont fault the dev here if he feels his work is not giving him the returns anymore and that its all by himself and its old and all that, but the best case to do here is simply ignore the review. The way he responded is not the best.

 

[Killer8]

If you program your software right the first time, then pending any major fuck up your software should be able to work fine years, even decades down the line.

 

[Optimus Lime]

Totally understand this guy’s private thoughts, probably shouldn’t have made them public. There’s an endless supply of whiny dorks who will whine, you have to just put on your customer service face as a dev or ignore them.

It wouldn't hurt him to not be an utter embarrassment, and to have his effemine friends show up to loudly scream about how 'gamers' are bozos, morons, etc. Is there a reason why this was needed to be made public, or is this some zoomer shit that I'm just not across?

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Even though video games is my favorite thing in the whole world, the industry (indies and AAA) is beyond insufferable and probably the worst I've ever seen from any other industry.

 

[Mozzarella]

It wouldn't hurt him to not be an utter embarrassment, and to have his effemine friends show up to loudly scream about how 'gamers' are bozos, morons, etc. Is there a reason why this was needed to be made public, or is this some zoomer shit that I'm just not across?

A lot of western devs are like this, a lot of them are rude to their customers, meanwhile a Japanese dev will literally bow and tell you im sorry i hope you enjoy our game, the western dev will give you the middle finger and tell you buy it or fuck off. lol. (Obviously im generalizing)

 

[OmegaSupreme]

I was reading the thread and I thought 'I bet this guy has pronouns in his bio', scrolled up, and sure enough...

I came into this thread to ask that same question. Never fails.

 

[NickFire]

I understand why a small dev would drop support on a tiny game after several years. But if they are still letting the game be sold that is not fair to the consumer in any respect. Ending support at some point is fine, but not if you keep selling new licenses for the software.

 

[Disco Dave]

This dev has a long way to go if he wants to dethrone Mr Fish.

 

[Wildebeest]

Selling broken software for a dollar just so he can belittle people who buy games that cheap and call them "little buddy"? Why does this guy want to get a reputation as another salty dude who uploads shitware on steam? Just take it off and make it freely downloadable somewhere if you don't care about the few cents you are making from it.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Damn he's really hot though.

 

[Optimus Lime]

A lot of western devs are like this, a lot of them are rude to their customers, meanwhile a Japanese dev will literally bow and tell you im sorry i hope you enjoy our game, the western dev will give you the middle finger and tell you buy it or fuck off. lol. (Obviously im generalizing)

I don't think anyone should be bowing and scraping when being abused and insulted by one of their customers, but also, openly mocking someone who has a legitimate issue - if even if it's something HE doesn't care about, in broken achievements - is utterly pathetic. And having imbeciles like Mitch Dyer show up to radiate that simpering, frightened, beta nerd energy just makes the whole thing embarrassing. And that's before you get to the fact that their wear pronouns like fucking swastikas.

 

[MiguelItUp]

The dev needs to know how to take feedback and criticism better. His response most certainly didn't make the situation better. It didn't need to go on and on like that either.

 

[BrunoCoel]

 

[StueyDuck]

you can almost smell the pronouns

 

[The Cockatrice]

Ignorance is bliss. I'm gonna side with the dev only because he's comments are hilarious. He could've just ignored that forum post/steam review like many do and nothing would've come out of it, but damn he went full on rage lmao. Awesome.

 

[JC 1080P CRT]

The dev needs to know how to take feedback and criticism better. His response most certainly didn't make the situation better. It didn't need to go on and on like that either.

Failing that, get a handler. It feels like some devs could sure use one.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Failing that, get a handler. It feels like some devs could sure use one.

Honestly it's why so many studios have a well experienced community team. They're the ones that talk with players, no one else on the team, haha.

When it's a 1 person team, you should know better. Cause in some cases not responding is much better than responding at all. Guess this guy woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or he's just kind of a dick, lol.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If only he had 1/10th of a AAA budget game

That first post,

 

[TheDreadBaron]

It wouldn't hurt him to not be an utter embarrassment, and to have his effemine friends show up to loudly scream about how 'gamers' are bozos, morons, etc. Is there a reason why this was needed to be made public, or is this some zoomer shit that I'm just not across?

I think he took the person’s very harsh review as a personal attack, which makes sense to me that he would feel that way when he’s invested so much time into creating something and someone is publicly lying telling people it doesn’t run and not to buy it when apparently it was just a broken a broken achievement. He should have just laughed at the ridiculousness of some random kid’s opinion, responded publicly very politely addressing the issue, and boom that’s an easy win for him. Instead, he played into this person’s negativity and came across as a prick, really own-goaled himself.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This is the nu male.

 

[Solidus_T]

On one hand, he says he doesn't care because the game is 1 dollar and 6 years old, but he cares enough apparently to go harass negative reviewers. Dude is a total jerk and making himself look worse with every move.

 

[Blitzmangoman]

Damn he's really hot though.

Are you Joe Wintergreen?

 

[mitch1971]

I dunno why I'm having this conversation across a forum thread, a review's comments section, and my own Steam profile.

Yet you decide to add twitter to that list.

 

[Clear]

With the dev in this instance if the product is labelled as being unsupported.

Also refunding a 99c game... be still my heart!

 

[Darkmakaimura]

With the dev in this instance if the product is labelled as being unsupported.

Also refunding a 99c game... be still my heart!

No it wasn't. In fact that was the issue is that the game has no disclaimer that it might not support newer hardware or there's issues with the achievements.

 

[CanYouFlyBobby?]

indie devs are the biggest kunts on the planet, they all act like mother theresa martyrs because they are game developers.

 

[IAmRei]

i dunno, seems suspicious

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

He's an asshole: if he doesn't want to support anymore, that's ok, but in this case put at least a disclaimer in description to warn people and don't try to fight legitimate users comments warning about a game that may not work with recent hardware.
As ridiculous is the price, that's not a donation, people buy a product and should not be scammed if the product doesn't work. That's a store, not a charity.

He should just

instead of make it a pathetic public drama crusade.

Damn he's really hot though.

 

[justiceiro]

I bet this dev is one more of those side hustle bros hoping one of their shit games suddenly start to produce "passive income" so he can retire at age 30. When will solo devs understand that they are running a business, that need customer support, pr to talk to the public and what not?

 

[Clear]

No it wasn't. In fact that was the issue is that the game has no disclaimer that it might not support newer hardware or there's issues with the achievements.

That's a bit iffy then, but objectively... I really couldn't give a toss either way really.

Here's the thing though; how much of your time would you consider worth charging $1 for? And how would you feel about somebody yanking your chain about it 6 years after the fact?

There are too many gamers who think every dev is Richie Rich swanning about in luxury, when the reality is that they often find themselves working for months for an end result that earns them less than minimum wage.

If you harangued somebody flipping burgers you'd be unsurprised if they curtly told you to go suck a dick!

The moral of the story being don't expect micro-indie devs caring enough about your custom to always be "nice".