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zomgbbqftw said:
But at least you can feel safer now with Turkish heroin dealers patrolling your streets.
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But at least you can feel safer now with Turkish heroin dealers patrolling your streets.
Now I am sort of glad UK has all those CCTV cameras all about. Nice looking place. As for this "poor and disenfranchised" bullshit excuses, I have yet to see anyone in these photos that fit the tag. They all seem to be able to afford nice hoodies and carry around cell phones.
Plus the race talk is all wrong. This is about a culture but as we say in America among us black folk. Its Black Culture vs *Igga culture and the latter is winning among the youth.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-catches-rioters-caused-havoc-Britain.html
Plus the race talk is all wrong. This is about a culture but as we say in America among us black folk. Its Black Culture vs *Igga culture and the latter is winning among the youth.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-catches-rioters-caused-havoc-Britain.html
zomgbbqftw
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Cunts.
soundscream
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Got there to late and had to grab the floor samples?
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Some people looted charity shops.kamspy said:
The Technomancer
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Fuck them up the ass with a chainsawB_Rik_Schitthaus said:
I am not literally advocating this
zomgbbqftw
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avaya said:
More Asians are conservative now than not. Once you get out of Tower Hamlets and Brent leftist Asians are less common because most run businesses and are interested in lower taxes and lower government spending. David Cameron did very well to shake the 'Cons are racist' image, and Asians responded by voting for them.
You still get a lot of brow beating from leftists Asians saying that Cons are racists and Labour deserve our support regardless of how much they tax our businesses but their voice is not as respected as it used to be since DC became leader. Also many Asians were disgusted by the appointment of Phil Woolas to the Labour front bench by Ed Miliband after he ran a very, very BNP-alike campaign at the GE.
Believe me, Asians aren't as Labour supporting as they were in the 80's and 90's, most are affluent and well educated. Indians specifically have a lower rate of unemployment than the national average and Indians specifically break to Cons because they are very pro-business.
zomgbbqftw
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avaya said:
Therein lies the problem, there isn't lot of specific polling done specifically for Asians in the UK now, but my mum reads Asian Voice and they backed David Cameron at the last election. Most of the Indians I know voted Con/LD. A lot of Indians didn't like the look of the NI rise because it would cost their business money and when DC and GO came out with their £6bn in year cuts to fund it's abandonment they went Con instead of Lab.
Black Republican
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damn and most those countries are as white as snow too, i mean norway!?!? Spain? haKitschkraft said:While I didn't agree with every conclusion you made, this point definitely goes unnoticed far too often.
I saw this a few days ago and didn't think much of it. After reading the last page of this thread, I can't help but laugh :
I know you have to squint, but the chart shows where Kanye West/Jay-Z "Watch The Thrown" is number 1. Fucking blacks spreading materialism....
Some of these issues were discussed a bit in that vanity fair topic. The gaf answer seemed to be "tough luck".
How dare white people like what they didn't create.Kitschkraft said:
"Black people" are not dying for a better portrayal of themselves. Maybe a few middle class are, but the most popular, most emulated, most sought after are still gangbangers and thugs, celebrating wealth, easy sex and power.
Yeah Kanye and Jay-Z are the top acts in the world right now. Who got them there? Who spread their mixtapes around and called them the kings of the genre?
Okay seriously the left needs to stop with this shit. This "capitalism created a consumer culture that fueled the riots" arguments is more stupid than anything I've heard on the right. A Nike slogan didn't brainwash anyone to do this.
These kids have a sense of entitlement. They don't care about their community, they don't really care about their country. They just want what they think is owed to them. They saw a chance open up. A chance to get what they want without retaliation, they took it.
Instead of looking at why so many kids int hat country are on benefits. Instead of wondering why a sense of entrepreneurship is so dead in that country, compared to places like America where the safety net and second chances are much less readily available, this riot has turned in a political soccer game. One one hand the authoritarian right and a shell-shocked left who are scrambling for anything in their playbooks.
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FreeMufasa said:
Are you being serious? Sorry if my sarcasm meter is broken.
He's actually defended blacks in the past : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28185578&postcount=15
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RedSwirl said:
It died down days ago but now we are in the most important phase where we complain a lot about things we were already prejudiced against and secretly hope that nothing has to change.
Actually, my point in posting the editorial piece was simply to point out that you lot should stop running around like headless chickens while playing the blame game and think calmly for a bit, instead of getting carried away in a feverish, fear-fueled authoritarian right-wing fantasy.remnant said:
Because Gods help us all if some of you idiots got your way regarding civil liberties, race relations and law enforcement. It's gonna be bad enough in the real world in a few months, we don't need martial law and tanks on the streets as well!
Introspection. Do some of it.
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It's fake. Or a bug.Black Republican said:
FreeMufasa
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Kitschkraft said:
This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Et1siZhTk&ob=av2e
From a user called nourali2. Could be a lurker that copied his post and added extra.
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Black Republican said:
Well, they are two of the biggest pop stars on the planet right now. I didn't post it because I found it surprising, I was just cosigning SSJ1Goku's point about blacks having very little actual control over which individuals or aspects of our culture become mainstream or not.
At best, we can give someone a solid base for them to build upon, and we tend to be more loyal to "our" celebrities than other people are towards them. Even that seems to be changing these days though. Up and comers don't seem to need our community at all. Tyler The Creator/OFWGKTA for example...I don't listen to this shit but from what I can tell, this entire clique seems to be a product of white interest. In other words, before ragging on us about violent/decadent imagery in popular culture, worry about who your own children, nieces, and nephews are supporting.
Yes, especially by those who supposedly govern us.remnant said:
Or are you condoning the innocent families of rioters being made homeless by councils trying to look "tough on crime" with actions that couldn't jerk any more knees if they tried? Or by David Cameron, the supposed vanguard of our freedoms as Prime Minister, saying that the government should block Facebook and Twitter in times of "national emergency", which would make us no better than China or Syria? Or by the perennially useless Theresa May saying that she had "ordered" the police to toughen up their tactics, when she apparently had nothing to do with their tactical change, and even now merrily continues to stoke the embers of the political tensions between the police and the government with her ill-thought-out statements? Or the ludicrous "fast track" trials of the walk-by hooligans who got caught, with six-month sentences for stealing a £1 pack of chewies*, all in the name of deterrent? Or the fact that the police budget is still due to be savagely cut, even after all this? All of which has actually happened, or is due to happen.
Six months to a year from now, we're all going to look back on how we, as a country, reacted to this whole thing and feel very silly
unless it happens again during the Games, in which case, the Right'll probably call for martial law and a police state
which won't happen then either
And enough talk about hip-hop and its purportedly negative social impact already. It's a racist red herring, and detracts from the real issues - of why, why then and there, and why did it spread.
*might not be totally correct, just listing from memory.
zomgbbqftw
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Dambrosi said:
I think it was £3.50 water from Lidl.
Even so, let the punishment fit the crime, as Gilbert & Sullivan once wrote. Make the tosser pay for the bottled water and clean up/repair the damage to the shop he stole it from as community service, sure (might even teach him a few new skills!), but actual incarceration? For months, at that? Who the fuck does that help?zomgbbqftw said:
The sentence will probably be reduced on appeal anyway, but still...
zomgbbqftw
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Dambrosi said:
Oh, I get what you're saying. I think theft of £3.50 water doesn't really deserve six months in jail, it is much better to give the person a community sentence and force the humiliation.
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was coming home the other day and there was at least 2 police officers on every street. i spoke to one of them and they said they plan on doing this for atleast another week so thats cool
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
So is there a shit tonne of stuff on ebay like there was in the Canada riots. Can they use that to track people, along with serial numbers?
Jail every one of the thieving looters, MP's (expense scandal) and corrupt officials in both the Government and Police. Far as I see it they're all aiding to the failure of British society, but if you ask me things would have a far more effective message if they happened top down, not bottom up.
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See you all soon in the next riots thread!
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Dead Man said:
It won't be introduced. They are going to debate it in the house because of the petition and pay it some lip service. The simple fact is they would be unable to introduce such a measure without being taken to court over breach of human rights.
This conservative Government is more idiotic and irresponsible than I originally thought possible. Can't believe they're actually even considering this idiotic proposal to withdraw benefits, signed by people who have little to no foresight, but instead a whole lot of pent up anger or knee jerk reaction induced madness.
If some of these lads don't have means to any income, you're basically asking them to riot, thieve and commit further crime. As much as people like to spring the whole "get a job" line, news flash, it isn't that easy. There's some stores I know in East London that get 20-50 job applications a day, others where managers don't even want to hire Black kids and worse. Heck, I know people with first class degree hons that can't even find jobs in London right now, so this whole sentiment is quite audacious.
It's a lose lose situation.
If some of these lads don't have means to any income, you're basically asking them to riot, thieve and commit further crime. As much as people like to spring the whole "get a job" line, news flash, it isn't that easy. There's some stores I know in East London that get 20-50 job applications a day, others where managers don't even want to hire Black kids and worse. Heck, I know people with first class degree hons that can't even find jobs in London right now, so this whole sentiment is quite audacious.
It's a lose lose situation.
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Removing all benefits is just the most fucked up thing I can think of, even if they did break the law. How the hell can they possibly survive? It's not like many of them are short term unemployed, so they can't just go and get a job. All it's going to lead to is more anger and violence.
Fuck this government and their bullshit kneejerk reactions. What they need to do is go away for a few months, let it all sink in and then come back with well thought out proposals in order to stop this happening again and making people feel like they need to riot. Otherwise they'll be doing the same things that lead up to the original ones.
Utter shit.
Fuck this government and their bullshit kneejerk reactions. What they need to do is go away for a few months, let it all sink in and then come back with well thought out proposals in order to stop this happening again and making people feel like they need to riot. Otherwise they'll be doing the same things that lead up to the original ones.
Utter shit.
If we need to work out the logistics then I'm assuming it's full steam ahead on Operation Rentokill?nib95 said:
I'll fetch my shooting pipe and slippers.
Edit: My shooting pipe appears to have cannabis resin in it. Now that's just irresponsible. I'll clean it especially for the occasion.
SmokyDave said:
glol
I agree with the principal that knee jerk reactions are not the way forward, much like they weren't the way forward for anything ever (9/11 for example).
Problem is the "public" (vocal Daily Mail readers) want things done TODAY OMG TODAY!
Stamping out gangs? Good luck Dave.
guys we need to slow down and think about this. i've been playing the witcher over the weekend and it teaches many valuable lessons, that life is not black and white but shades of grey, and choices we choose now may not have the consequences we desire.
if this game has taught me anything about life, we need to think this through first.
if this game has taught me anything about life, we need to think this through first.
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The Met should learn a thing or two from Strathclyde Police and how they've been approaching the gang problem.SteveWD40 said:
http://www.strathclyde.police.uk/index.asp?locID=1494&docID=-1
zomgbbqftw
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SteveWD40 said:
Without legalising drugs the government will never stamp out gangs. Where one gang is arrested and banged up in jail, another will come along as long as there is money to made selling drugs.
If people were able to buy drugs over the counter in Boots or other pharmacies gangs would have no reason to exist and would make no money.
You know what I learned from The Witcher? That life doesn't have pad support so you should say 'fuck it' and play Borderlands instead. I'm still trying to work this knowledge into a witty aphorism.
Cheers! I was thinking more 'shooting' than 'stamping' though. You can't stamp filthy proles from a safe distance.SteveWD40 said:
Parfait. Best part of the film.StuBurns said:
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The FT have to have it wrong. They are probably 'considering' it in the sense that they are going to give it a debate, which is what they promised for all petitions with over 100k signatures. Any one of us here can tell that the proposal is empty rhetoric and can't actually be implemented. Giving popular angry sentiment a bit of acknowledgement and 'considering' it would be a very populist move, and make them sound tough even if they don't actually do it. I bet that's what they've been advised. I also bet that barely anyone in parliament actually has the desire or will to see it done.
If any of the rioters were claiming disability allowance though and things like that -- things which getting up off your ass and looting proves as bullshit -- then those benefits should be taken away. And I bet there's good odds that some of the people convicted were. If by booting in a door they found multiple claimants for housing benefit, or some other fraud like sub-letting going on -- then they should address that too. Those are the kind of benefit fraud clamp downs they should be doing anyway.
If any of the rioters were claiming disability allowance though and things like that -- things which getting up off your ass and looting proves as bullshit -- then those benefits should be taken away. And I bet there's good odds that some of the people convicted were. If by booting in a door they found multiple claimants for housing benefit, or some other fraud like sub-letting going on -- then they should address that too. Those are the kind of benefit fraud clamp downs they should be doing anyway.
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