Portugeezer
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It is an urban based open world game; those usually don't look as good as other games (due to all the geometry, pedestrians, vehicles, etc).
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Marvels spider-man 2 graphics disappointed
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FunkMiller
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Eh. I don't think HFW is that much of a showcase of the Ps5.
Mind you, fucking hardly anything is.
This is a silly take. Eve watched the 4K video. The miles morales gameplay trailer looks better. The original 30fps Compressed Spider-man 2 reveal trailer looks amazing. Nothing to do with YouTube.
hyperbertha
Member
The open world excuse doesn't cut it after horizon fw. And it's combat really has more going onscreen than Spiderman at times.
DavidGzz
Member
Not the same dev so yes it does. How many open world games look like like that 7/10 game? Maybe they should focus more on what makes a game fun rather than peach fuzz.
GHG
Member
Make it more interactive in some way for a start.
It's worth noting I'm not fond of the other 2 spiderman games either so maybe I'm not the best person to ask, those games are pretty much open world painting by numbers games. It would be nice to see some kind of gameplay evolution/innovation but it looks to be more of the same.
Salty Pickle
Neo Member
Yes I remember the feeling when Halo Infinite was revealed, the result did not match the hype. This is similar except it is in much better shape than what Halo was in.
8BiTw0LF
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Drizzlehell
Banned
It's a cross-gen title that looks objectively mind-blowing on the PS5. I mean, it does, just look at the screenshot thread, and it looks even better in motion. It proves that even if the game was supposed to be cross-gen then it's not an excuse to still look last-gen.
hyperbertha
Member
Ah moving goalposts classic. Good studios achieve both.
DavidGzz
Member
We were talking about games from the same dev, try again.
Fair enough, that explains it then. I'm not sure what more they could have added for the spiderman fans.
They've added a bunch of abilities. They seem to have added gameplay changes like fast flying and instant character switching in different parts of the city. Those gameplay elements were possible due to this gen and they used them to add features to the spiderman formula. I'm looking forward to it personally.
Msamy
Member
No , not look fine at all
TheDreadLord
Member
Tbh, the graphics were the least for me… terrible gameplay footage shown. From what was presented, perhaps 60% was either non-interactive scenes or very linear with low control. They even managed to put a QTE (press O to win) in the middle of it.
Msamy
Member
No , I watched the 4k gameplay and it's disappointing as hell
hyperbertha
Member
So guerilla can achieve great graphics in an open world game, while insomniac can't. You're admitting they are a b tier studio? Thanks for proving my point.
DavidGzz
Member
Yawn, come back when Guerilla starts making games as good as Insomniac. Meanwhile From Software shits on both studios. If the best graphics tech is all it takes to make a studio A tier, we can be done with this discussion. LOL
onnextflix5
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It’s running on the same engine, it looked exactly like we expected to,
hyperbertha
Member
Are you implying Spiderman has better gameplay than horizon, or that insomniac is anywhere near from soft? Wrong both times. Spiderman's gameplay is just downgraded Batman. Filled with ubisoft style open world bloat to boot. Horizon offers something unique.
DavidGzz
Member
Well, there you go. We can agree to disagree. I think Horizon is pretty mediocre. And yes, I like the gameplay of Spiderman way more. And I just said From Software shits on both, so no to your second question.
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Infested Goblin
Member
Same as witcher 3 and Cyberpunk
Drizzlehell
Banned
Apples and oranges. Besides, you could say something similar about Horizon too because it doesn't really do anything that games like the Assassin's Creed series haven't done already. Arguably the only USP is the area-based damage aspect to the combat but Spider-Man has it's own USP in a form of web-swinging.
Although I enjoyed the gameplay in both games so I don't care either way. All I'm saying is that there are no clear-cut winners here.
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hyperbertha
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I just think fighting the dinosaur robots in horizon is a more unique and highly varied experience compared to the repetitiveness of humanoid enemies in sm. Each robot has very different ways of dealing with them, and it's a much more challenging game, tho heavily flawed.
Why not expect a gen leap after demon souls, hfw, ratchet and the Matrix demo?
fran.fernandez
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Is not bad but nothing new either. I kinda was hopping “lumen” “nanite” level…. Yes yes I know that’s unreal engine but still.
Drizzlehell
Banned
You can keep telling yourself that but for those of us who have some standards, we'd expect a bit more from a numbered sequel that took 5 years to make.
Check out the differences between the games in a previous franchise developed by Insomniac:
And this was all on the same console. Where's that kind of an upgrade between sequels in Spider-Man?
Not that Resistance made some huge strides but each of those games at least felt different from one another, and you could actually see some decent upgrade to visuals and gameplay.
A Most Virtuous Cat
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I despise boot lickers. Let the man have his thread, if there is need, mods will take action.
Msamy
Member
Sadly , I watched and I am more disappointed idont understand how this looks ? Try watch hfw burning shores or star wars jedi survivor òr even cyperpunk overdrive and you will understand what I mean
Skifi28
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That's great. You can also make comparisons about going from 2D to 3D in a span of two years between sequels back in the 90s, but it would still be an out of touch comparison. We live in the present of great visual diminishing returns, but people are free to set their expectations through the roof and then get disappointed and start yelling at clouds. You simply won't be seeing the visual advancement that happened in the PS3 generation again, if the last three years haven't made it obvious to you yet.You can keep telling yourself that but for those of us who have some standards, we'd expect a bit more from a numbered sequel that took 5 years to make.
Check out the differences between the games in a previous franchise developed by Insomniac:
And this was all on the same console. Where's that kind of an upgrade between sequels in Spider-Man?
Not that Resistance made some huge strides but each of those games at least felt different from one another, and you could actually see some decent upgrade to visuals and gameplay.
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Luigi Mario
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Msamy
Member
Sony first party titles should have locked better than unreal engine games as they did in the past , I don't know what's wrong with them this gen
Drizzlehell
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That's why I say it's apples and oranges. Horizon ensures that there's enough variety to the gameplay by making you fight vastly different enemy types which force you to switch tactics on the fly. Spider-Man, on the other hand, provides variety by frequently jumping between different activities with vastly different mechanics. Usually during a single mission you will go from web-swinging across town to stealthy Batman-style sneaking, to full contact brawls, to investigating clues, to solving puzzles, to car chases, to swinging challenges, etc. It's very different from Horizon's approach to mission design and hence why it doesn't require such a huge variety in enemy types - it does just enough to make the brawls short and intense.
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VN1X
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HAHAHAHAHAH
Drizzlehell
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Nah, I think it's just complacency on the developer's part because it's not just about the visuals but also about the gameplay being literally the same and not doing enough to iterate on its predecessor.
It's also not always about the sheer horse power but also what you do with your art style. If you want to set a different tone for the game or make it stand out somehow, then you can do so much more than just increase the LOD and slightly bump texture resolution. At least Miles Morales had snow and a holiday setting that already makes it stand out more from the first game than an actual sequel.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Skifi28
Member
Perhaps, perhaps not. I'll wait for the full game to judge the gameplay. I don't think the 5 minutes that were shown is enough and I liked some of the new traversal stuff that was shown.
Unknown?
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You can thank everyone who asked for 60fps and 4K native. Spider-Man PS4 used very good temporal injection tech that meant it didn't need to be native. 60fps means not targeting high fidelity graphics.You can keep telling yourself that but for those of us who have some standards, we'd expect a bit more from a numbered sequel that took 5 years to make.
Check out the differences between the games in a previous franchise developed by Insomniac:
And this was all on the same console. Where's that kind of an upgrade between sequels in Spider-Man?
Not that Resistance made some huge strides but each of those games at least felt different from one another, and you could actually see some decent upgrade to visuals and gameplay.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Let's hope another Sony 1st party studio can really show off the PS5.
I'll give props to the musician nailed it.
I'll give props to the musician nailed it.
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Schmendrick
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I despise wannabe warriors defending all kind of spam just because.
This discussion is now being held in x threads simultaneously.....
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Msamy
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That's really laughable