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Pandora012
Member
Maybe with this game, Tales will be in recovery. I think people have said it's better than Zestiria.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Eh, assuming PS4 slim is coming out on the day of the PS meeting or the day after, Persona 5 will be fine. At the latest it is rumoured 15th of September, which is fine too, since Persona 5 is releasing on the 15th.
I think there's no hope of it not bombing in Japan at least. Non licensed fighting games have been underperforming for years now.
PS4 has shortages in Japan.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Sad times in Japan when a 5 year old system is still kicking your ass in the time period your platform normally starts to approach it's peak sales, granted that also happened in the US, I guess Sony isn't too bothered about sales and is more concerned about maximising profitability. Certainly an understandable decision when your success is undisputed.
I wonder how much of an affect that really has not like PS4 has ever really sold significantly more than this, It'd it's capped it by 5 to 10k at most which would probably be generous.
redblack85
Member
Shortage for PS4?
Can you find it or not?
BluePikmin11
Member
How many copies has YW1 sold in Japan, sooner or later, I think YW3 will surpass YW1 in sales, at least by the end of the year.
If the Wii U hadn't been supply costrained at the beginning of the year then it'd have been closer to 2017 than September (or maybe even in 2017 knowing that Nintendo HW sells better on Christmas).
Anyway if Slim release coincides with Persona 5 then PS4 should pass Wii U that week or the next one at the latest.
Sounds like it'll be about a week apart.
Put a bit brutally but yeah. Berseria is still higher than a bunch of past entries and the series didn't die back then. I imagine they'll probably have a small resurgence again at some point, maybe even with the next release if they manage to give the appearance of increased production values.
1.2m iirc, so that will not be very hard to beat.
That's the lowest start ever for a mothership title on Sony home console
It's sold out in some places, but still available in others. It's far of being completely sold out. But you can have problems especially if you live in a small village.
Always found pretty amusing that the 3DS XL outsold the 3DS pretty much right out of the gate, but once the New 3DS models were launched, sales dropped like a rock... while the OG 3DS kept going.
Total opposite of the west where OG 3DS sales pretty much died when the XL launched, and the model was actually discontinued after a while.
OG 3DS really is Japan's 2DS, when you think about it.
Then even if there are some lost sales they are insignificant.
YW1 is 1.3 though, same about the current shipment of YW3.
Bad for Tales, and this week is gonna be a mess all around.
Coming back to the roots!
Coming back to the roots!
didn't know about PS4 shortages, even if thery are not THAT significant could have caused part of the non-existent bump I was expecting
But at the end, even the actual Tales sales are not THAT relevant, so probably we woudn't have seen any significant bump
PS4 will surpass the Wii U LTD probably not with FFXV as I expected, but with Persona5, thanks to the FFXV delay
Wii U '16 sales could have been slighlty better without those initial-year issues, but at best they could have delayed the surpass of PS4 maximum at the FFXV new date
3DS OG 10 millions LTD, congrats. 3DS family over 21 millions, congrats: it still is the most relevant console in Japan, this bodes well for NX, if it is (primarly) a portable imho
At the end YW surely is facing a big decline, but probably the third episode will still beat the first one and sell around 1.5 million LTD or more. diluited, but still powerful.
the most important thing for L5 to me is being able to find another big success (even if not THAT big...) among Snack World or Megaton Musashi (I doubt that Inazuma could replicate the previous 1+ million success, even if we must remember how that franchise was the first non-SE [FE or DQ] RPG to surpass the million mark in Japan since the last...10 years? The last one was (still SE) KH I think..?
But at the end, even the actual Tales sales are not THAT relevant, so probably we woudn't have seen any significant bump
PS4 will surpass the Wii U LTD probably not with FFXV as I expected, but with Persona5, thanks to the FFXV delay
Wii U '16 sales could have been slighlty better without those initial-year issues, but at best they could have delayed the surpass of PS4 maximum at the FFXV new date
3DS OG 10 millions LTD, congrats. 3DS family over 21 millions, congrats: it still is the most relevant console in Japan, this bodes well for NX, if it is (primarly) a portable imho
At the end YW surely is facing a big decline, but probably the third episode will still beat the first one and sell around 1.5 million LTD or more. diluited, but still powerful.
the most important thing for L5 to me is being able to find another big success (even if not THAT big...) among Snack World or Megaton Musashi (I doubt that Inazuma could replicate the previous 1+ million success, even if we must remember how that franchise was the first non-SE [FE or DQ] RPG to surpass the million mark in Japan since the last...10 years? The last one was (still SE) KH I think..?
Tales is pretty much exactly what people in lastweek's thread expected. Zestiria seems to have damaged the series quite a bit.
I hope the next installment will do better due to the influence of Berseria's positive word of mouth.
I hope the next installment will do better due to the influence of Berseria's positive word of mouth.
here's to 'it'll be better in the future' for at least another 2 years!
I don't think that's as bad as it seems though. Sony home consoles aren't as popular right now and it's a cross gen game so it probably has less of an upgrade appeal. Plus it's launched before FF and DQ.
It's not like it cratered to Graces levels.
edit: Better comparison might be Star Ocean 5. That's what a dead series walking looks like.
While I do agree with the general state of Sony home consoles (almost everything is in decline after all) they could have managed the IP in a much better away to avoid, or at least alleviate, the sales decline.
As for Graces they were able to bounce back with the PS3 port, here they have nothing more to do.
I see what you did there.
I think they just need to look forward. Drop the baggage of the PS3-era releases for the next game. Go for a different look and style.
As I edited in(as you replied) there's a big difference between Tales and Star Ocean.
Drop ~1/3 of your consumer base with no guarantee they'll follow for a series in decline? I'd sooner suggest they just put the next game on Vita day and date.
But, but... Tales will always live with us!! No way it could disappear!!
Yeah, I'd say something between the 80k to 90k. The market is not made for home consoles to do 100k aside release day, imho.
^_^
But the true champion of this week is of course dragon ball and kirby lol. Dragon ball is holding like Goku while Kirby is showing his Gundam Leg.^_^
.....Suddenly, Animal Crossing show up again lol.^_^
I just checked a few of major online retailers in Japan and nearly all of them are already out of stock.
Amazon.co.jp
https://www.amazon.co.jp/b/ref=amb_...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=350557349&pf_rd_i=637394
Tsutaya
http://shop.tsutaya.co.jp/game/news/ps4/?sc_int=game_pc_center-kishu01
Joshin
http://joshinweb.jp/game/25278.html
Bic Camera
http://www.biccamera.com/bc/disp/CSfDispListPage_001.jsp?dispNo=001210127005&q=playstation%81%404
Yodobashi Camera
http://www.yodobashi.com/プレイステーション4用ゲーム機本体/ct/140019_000000000000001848/
. Black 500GB PS4 is still available, but the 1TB version and White 500GB are gone.
You're right! I say drop all of the ecosystems, and just release it on that one machine we all keep near and dear to our hearts.
The SNES.
Or, even better, the SNES Mini Expansion Pack!
Eolz
Member
I think we still to wait on P5 and FFXV for this, just in case. DQXI will likely have an impact too.
DQXI isn't a PS3/PS4 release nor is FFXV.
Well I'm thinking it's at least a year away in which case PS3 and Vita releases are going to be a bit fewer and far between and FF and DQ should have released by then which would hopefully help other RPGs.
3DS, NX, and PS4 being day and date is going to eat into the latter if that actually occurs as planned. The 3DS was already going to greatly dominate the sales but throwing in another handheld is going to make the proposition all the worse in this market for the latter.
Should still help though, even if it's diminished.
The Praiseworthy
Member
Noooooo!!!
Tales :"(
Barely 250K.... I was hopping for 300k or 350k.
I sense one of my favorite franchise in danger :"(
Tales :"(
Barely 250K.... I was hopping for 300k or 350k.
I sense one of my favorite franchise in danger :"(
Bruno MB
Member
I have taken a look at September releases for the prediction league and there isn't anything worthwhile outside Persona 5. So I have decided there will be a special Persona 5 week launch prediction league instead of a monthly edition.
Hopefully the PS4 Slim release date will be leaked a couple of days before the press conference for Japan (September 13th) to have a few more days to predict.
Hopefully the PS4 Slim release date will be leaked a couple of days before the press conference for Japan (September 13th) to have a few more days to predict.
Eolz
Member
My bad, misunderstood what you meant then.
It's funny to hear you say that 250K is a bad number for TOB on its first week when DS version of TOH did about the same total but "at that point of time, that is actually not a really bad number".
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=214680810&postcount=339
DriftingSpirit
Member
So, we went from "PS4 doesn't have shortages" to "If it does, the impact is minimal". Amusing.
Right, it is still the next mainline DQ. It'll be big regardless.
Nah its fine I wasn't very clear, haha.
I guess I don't know what you are actually expecting from this on the PS4 if it gets launched day and date against the 3DS (which will eat up like 70%-80% of the sales total sales) and a next gen handheld. Even if they (PS4/NX) split it in half or if the NX eats more into the 3DS, how much are you expecting here and how does it compare to the already present audience?
It will "help" in that it will sell to the audience that already exists at this point.
Kresnik258
Member
You just made me realise that Tokyo Xanadu PS4 is two weeks from release. Eep.