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[Metallix87]

With Vita TV and God Eater 2, 100k is possible?

I honestly think Vita TV is being overhyped by a lot of people. God Eater 2, though, will be massive. I think 100k is within reach next week, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't hit it.

 

[Fabrik]

Big drop for WiiU! The real and second to last test is Super Mario 3D World.
PSVita is slowly becoming another PSP (But worse and without MH) destined to a niche Otaku audience and dead everywhere else.

 

[lefantome]

What made the 3DS sell 100k more last year?

 

[FreedomFighter]

Actually, I'd be surprised if ANYONE released a new dedicated console after this gen. I see more of a transition to other devices and streaming.

I don´t know who will be in charge of Nintendo a year from know and if the company as a whole sees a future in the console business (at least as a hardware manufacturer). So i will wait and see.

Ok, in this context, I see what you mean.

 

[Mpl90]

What made the 3DS sell 100k more last year?

Animal Crossing.

 

[zroid]

expected, sad to say

 

[Bo130]

 

[Into]

Back to reality for the Wii U, at least World and the holiday season will spike it again in a few weeks.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I see. We're attacking Vita the week before God Eater 2 are we. Marvelous.

This deserves its own "Bwahahahaha" really due to it's irony.

 

[Atram]

Big drop for WiiU! The real and second to last test is Super Mario 3D World.
PSVita is slowly becoming another PSP (But worse and without MH) destined to a niche Otaku audience and dead everywhere else.

more than expected

 

[AOC83]

lol, even when the gamecube sold the least amount Nintendo still made the most profit.

the wii u will be making a nice profit by next year (not wii numbers).

a new console in 4 years is a def.

The Gamecube was a full fledged disaster and Nintendo sure as hell didn´t make any profit with it and the WiiU is a Gamecube on steroids in that regard.

 

[Kyon]

Poor WiiU

 

[Raist]

Will Famitsu, M-C track Vita TV sales?

I don't see why they wouldn't. The question is, will they give separate Vita / Vita TV sales numbers.

 

[jmood88]

The Wii U is a decent bit of kit. It deserves better

No it's not and it doesn't deserve anything. A year old system on par with 6 and 7 year old systems with a gimmick that even Nintendo can't justify.

 

[gogogow]

The Wii-U drop was larger than I anticipated, I guessed that it would hit 24-25k this week. Vita staying above 20k is good as they're keeping that momentum going into the release of the Playstation Vita TV and God Eater 2 combo.

Man next week can't come soon enough, curious to see if God Eater 2 can top the first in sales.

Nintendo or Bamco should have released a game last week to have a smaller drop in sales or keep it at the same level. I'm not sure why Nintendo/Bamco are releasing SM3DW/Taiko on the same day.

 

[FreedomFighter]

The Wii-U drop was larger than I anticipated, I guessed that it would hit 24-25k this week. Vita staying above 20k is good as they're keeping that momentum going into the release of the Playstation Vita TV and God Eater 2 combo.

Man next week can't come soon enough, curious to see if God Eater 2 can top the first in sales.

Of course it will.

 

[StreetsAhead]

By December 31st, Nintendo have published 17 games at retail this year in Japan across their two platforms (16 if you insist on not counting Luigi U), plus digital only stuff like Dillion's Rolling Western 2, and Pokemon Rumble U. We know about 9 projects (see spoilers, correct if wrong) they are intending to publish at retail in 2014, with presumably more unknown announcements. I'm aware they need more studios, and possibly smarter targeting of developer resources, but I don't think volume, by number of titles, is a huge problem.

Spoiler

Wii Fit U, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Yoshi's New Island, Mario Golf World Tour, Bayonetta 2, X, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS

 

[allan-bh]

I honestly think Vita TV is being overhyped by a lot of people.

Maybe not, is very cheap.

 

[daxgame]

I believed more in Wii U recover than Vita, but the opposite is happening.

I'm not sure why you would believe that, considering Vita comes after a machine that sold past 20 million, while Wii closed with "just" 12 million.

 

[Caronte]

Bullshit.
It's the second best selling platform YTD, no? That's not 'terrible' when the rest of the market sells low numbers.

Dreamcast, Gamecube and Xbox had good numbers then?

 

[Nibel]

 

[Kyon]

No it's not and it doesn't deserve anything. A year old system on par with 6 and 7 year old systems with a gimmick that even Nintendo can't justify.

fffff

Clocked

 

[Lexxism]

Looks like 3ds will be down yoy again in a few weeks courtesy of animal crossing.

I think vita might outsell 3ds next week due to ge2 + vita tv.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

Bwahahahaha!

Are you saying he's wrong? A few decent weeks of sales doesn't make Vita a healthy platform. Sure it has the games, but not the sales.

 

[FreedomFighter]

Will Famitsu, M-C track Vita TV sales?

Did they track Super Gameboy sales or the Cube GBA player?

 

[Metallix87]

No it's not and it doesn't deserve anything. A year old system on par with 6 and 7 year old systems with a gimmick that even Nintendo can't justify.

So much vitriol. Wow.

Wii U is more powerful than those old systems, and I'm so sick and tired of the word "gimmick" being tossed around as though it means "something bad for gaming".

 

[sörine]

The Gamecube was a full fledged disaster and Nintendo sure as hell didn´t make any profit with it and the WiiU is a Gamecube on steroids in that regard.

Gamecube wasn't a net money loser like Dreamcast, Xbox, PS3 or Wii U so far. It didn't make much but it did make something.

 

[airmangataosenai]

Iwata stated many times 3DS is exceeding Nintendo forecast in Japan.

..... How? Next week the 3DS is most likely going to be down YoY, and that gap is unlikely to shrink after it happens. And the downward trend only gets worse if you only look at the beginning of the fiscal year, sales from that quarter received a huge boost from Luigi and Dragon Quest. I doubt Nintendo has anything set for the coming quarter comparable to Dragon Quest in system selling potential.

 

[Atram]

Are you saying he's wrong? A few decent weeks of sales doesn't make Vita a healthy platform. Sure it has the games, but not the sales.

He is just joking around.

 

[lefantome]

Animal Crossing.

thanks.

with these data it's likely that 3ds is going to sell less units than last year despite MH4 e pokemon.

 

[Metallix87]

..... How? Next week the 3DS is most likely going to be down YoY, and that gap is unlikely to shrink after it happens. And the downward trend only gets worse if you only look at the beginning of the fiscal year, sales from that quarter received a huge boost from Luigi and Dragon Quest. I doubt Nintendo has anything set for the coming quarter comparable to Dragon Quest in system selling potential.

They have a new Dragon Quest game, with a Dragon Quest themed 3DS XL.

 

[Nibel]

Bwahahahaha!

Good post btw

 

[Scum]

I think that's a great idea. I thought this is what would happen back in the day when Nintendo opened up NST staffed with Digipen students. Lockdown that talent and have them pumping out games in the West. But they just stopped there, and NST haven't been working on any big games anymore lately.

Well, that was Godlike Arakawa idea. I believe he was a big fan of Nintendo having devs associated with the other branches, but I think Iwata & his hired goons dismantled that idea. Silly bugger. :-/

I do think what I mentioned earlier has a chance of happening, whether Iwata likes it or not, or someone is brought in to do it. It'll be these best thing for Nintendo in the long run.

 

[Kyon]

So much vitriol. Wow.

Wii U is more powerful than those old systems, and I'm so sick and tired of the word "gimmick" being tossed around as though it means "something bad for gaming".

The irony

Also if it was then why does it have inferior multiplats and non of the exclusives look better than PS3 exclusives? And yes the WiiU is a gimmick like the Wii.

 

[Shinriji]

Nice Vita hold. 2 million LTD achieved!

Of course it will.

Maybe. But Winning Eleven 2014 PS3 could be first as well.

 

[Atram]

..... How? Next week the 3DS is most likely going to be down YoY, and that gap is unlikely to shrink after it happens. And the downward trend only gets worse if you only look at the beginning of the fiscal year, sales from that quarter received a huge boost from Luigi and Dragon Quest. I doubt Nintendo has anything set for the coming quarter comparable to Dragon Quest in system selling potential.

ironic because they have a Dragon Quest Game in the first Quarter...+ Zelda

 

[Pie and Beans]

This deserves its own "Bwahahahaha" really due to it's irony.

what irony specifically?

 

[Screamapillar]

Now more than one year after release in Japan, Animal Crossing is still charting in the Top 25. Holy cow.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

The Gamecube was a full fledged disaster and Nintendo sure as hell didn´t make any profit with it and the WiiU is a Gamecube on steroids in that regard.

If you want people to take your constant Nintendo hatred seriously, you have to at least try to be subtle.

 

[GreenMakoEyes]

at this point I think LRFFXIII will chart above SM3DW..

 

[BlackJace]

Why the hell are we talking about power in a sales thread. Stop, please.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I'm actually expecting a Streambox/WiiU TV and a Gamepad/New Gameboy combo, to be honest.

Ninty consolidating hardware teams certainly points to that being the future and I think it's a great idea.

I think if this was how it was a few years ago, we would've had a consolidated VC, crossbuy/play functionality, and Miiverse on 3DS already.

 

[Jamix012]

The Gamecube was a full fledged disaster and Nintendo sure as hell didn´t make any profit with it and the WiiU is a Gamecube on steroids in that regard.

I'm gonna have to ask for a source because I'm like 95% sure that's bullshit (=

 

[AOC83]

Gamecube wasn't a net money loser like Dreamcast, Xbox, PS3 or Wii U so far. It didn't make much but it did make something.

Yeah no it didn´t. Nintendo was barely in the plus during the gamecube era most of the time although they had a massively successful handheld with the GBA.

 

[SmokyDave]

Are you saying he's wrong? A few decent weeks of sales doesn't make Vita a healthy platform. Sure it has the games, but not the sales.

Where are people getting sales from?! I bolded the relative parts of the joke. Now, I'll explain it and ruin the giggle. Frillen called the 3DS a healthy platform. Frillen then pointed to the Vita's revised forecasts as a sign that the platform was unhealthy. The 3DS has missed every forecast Nintendo have ever set, even when they've revised them. That's the joke. This does not mean that I believe the Vita sells well (it doesn't) or is a healthy platform (it isn't) or that the 3DS is unhealthy in Japan (it is healthy).

I hope that clears things up.

 

[AOC83]

I'm gonna have to ask for a source because I'm like 95% sure that's bullshit (=

The Gamecube was sold at a loss for the major part of it´s existance.

 

[Type-Zero]

Maybe release an exclusive or two? Or games that aren't just ports of older titles?
Vita's had a fairly impressive recovery, but Square and Capcom have not ever shown interest.

I'm sorry but you don't send a gift to a girl your not interested in, even if the gift is cheap.

Why go to through the trouble to have time and money be used to do something your not interested in? Before 3DS received Monster Hunter 4 it started with MH3 which is a port. Square started off the PSP with Valkyrie Profile port before going onto KH:BB and Crisis Core. Lastly, why would Sony make a bundle with a FFX/X-2 themed 2000 model for someone slightly interested?

 

[gngf123]

The Gamecube was a full fledged disaster and Nintendo sure as hell didn´t make any profit with it and the WiiU is a Gamecube on steroids in that regard.

Nintendo made quite a lot of profit on the Gamecube. Actually, if my memory serves me right they made more money that gen than Sony did with the PS2. Even though the PS2 sold many more units.

 

[spatenfloot]

Why the hell are we talking about power in a sales thread. Stop, please.

WiiU sales are balanced.

 

[Scum]

By December 31st, Nintendo have published 17 games at retail this year in Japan across their two platforms (16 if you insist on not counting Luigi U), plus digital only stuff like Dillion's Rolling Western 2, and Pokemon Rumble U. We know about 9 projects (see spoilers, correct if wrong) they are intending to publish at retail in 2014, with presumably more unknown announcements. I'm aware they need more studios, and possibly smarter targeting of developer resources, but I don't think volume, by number of titles, is a huge problem.

Spoiler

Wii Fit U, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Yoshi's New Island, Mario Golf World Tour, Bayonetta 2, X, Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS

Oh, I agree. But I just think the "heavy" reliance on NCL is too much. Involve NoA and NoE more. Maybe the added responsibility at NoA will give them the deserved kick up the backside.