cheebdragonite
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Great reviews! Looks like I'm going to play my 3DS again. 
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Metroid: Samus Returns Review Thread
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TheDinoman
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Metroid 2 is sort of the interesting transition point between Metroid and Super. It's more refined in comparison to the first, giving Samus more control options and adding in save points and missle/health refill stations, and yet it's still really clunky and archaic compared to what came after.
I played through it all the way on my 3DS a few years ago and I did enjoy it, which is a lot more than I can say for the original Metroid, but it's not something I'd really go back to after AM2R and now SR.
I'll take a solid classic metroid after the hot vomit that were the 'risks' of Federation Force and Other M.
The changes to combat seem substantial enough to me, anyway.
LincolnSixEcho
Member
I preordered as soon as it was announced. CANNOT WAIT! NEW METROID BABY! Friday at work is gonna suck.
Neoleo2143
Member
Frankly, I think it takes quite a few Risks. The change to combat design alone (melee parry + Aggressive and very damaging enemies + 360 degree aiming) is quite noteworthy and potentially alienating to fans of previous Metroid games.
But the Fundamental design is complex area traversal like previous 2D entries that maintain generally smooth pacing.
It's a fantastic maze game.
It's one of the few games that doesn't rely on graphical prowess to get the atmosphere right.
Metroid 1 is BS with the 30 hp restart but otherwise it's kind of trying to kill you every screen it can.
Metroid 2 is much more manageable, no sandtrap at the bottom of the screen. Most enemies aren't that active.
It's still a maze, although feels smaller in a way. The most dangerous part are clearly the Metroids that are expected to kill you.
the last versions are relentless!
I don't really want to play that game with standard Super Metroid QoL that makes the game too easy.
the game ain't even hard or confusing, just need a memory to remember where you went and have some quick reflex to deal with the bosses and the game is rather easy even on a 1st try.
hikarutilmitt
Member
I think M2 "suffers" a bit from the Game Boy resolution in the same way the Mega Man games do. They're not bad, they're actually (mostly) very good but the experience suffers slightly because they wanted the same detail in the sprite s as the NES game(s) but doing that means you're making things too large for the space given.
It's funny because as much crap as I will talk about IGAvanias he at least got that right for the portable CV games he made. Hell, all 3 Game Boy CV games, themselves, work well enough because of this (the slow pacing of the first game notwithstanding).
SinCityAssassin
Member
From the reviews, seems like you're gonna need them.
Pre-boss checkpoints are a good thing in my book.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
SAMUS IS BACK
METROID IS BACK BOYS
As a Metroid fan I used to be like "Why I gotta wait" but after these reviews Im like "lemme smang it girl. Smash it and bang"
I agree honestly. I guess there is one thing I actually like about Other M after all.
Several of the reviews laud the game's visuals. I think some people here just see that it's on the 3DS and is 2.5D and automatically write it off, which is a shame; artistically this seems like a major step up from Federation Force.
In a game like Dark Souls having a run to the boss works for me because the game constantly saves, so every run to the boss room is relevant for the souls and gear you pick up, and if you lose health you can't just grind it back by beating enemies. But in Metroid, any run to the boss room is completely null and void if you die, and losing health just means you spend time grinding enemies.
They were in Prime 2 and 3 as well in a few instances (Most notably the final boss of Prime 3).
In a game like Dark Souls having a run to the boss works for me because the game constantly saves, so every run to the boss room is relevant for the souls and gear you pick up, and if you lose health you can't just grind it back by beating enemies. But in Metroid, any run to the boss room is completely null and void if you die, and losing health just means you spend time grinding enemies.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Backgrounds look great and elevate the context of environments, platforms don't float anymore.
The 3D effect is also one of the best the system has seen, highly recommend playing with 3D on!
nicolasacmf
Member
YEAH BOI, I'm excited.
I've always procrastinated on playing Metroid II and I really don't like fan-games, so I skipped AM2R. Glad I did it as this was announced soon after I decided not to play it and MAN, am I excited for it. Derrick from GameXplain saying he likes Samus Returns better than AM2R makes me feel even more comfortable in my decision.
lol christ
I've always procrastinated on playing Metroid II and I really don't like fan-games, so I skipped AM2R. Glad I did it as this was announced soon after I decided not to play it and MAN, am I excited for it. Derrick from GameXplain saying he likes Samus Returns better than AM2R makes me feel even more comfortable in my decision.
lol christ
It was an inside job I tells ya!
Almost as great as Nier Automata getting 89 when the original Nier got 68
Ah didn't know that. The only boss I died to in Prime 2 was the final boss (played the Trilogy version and bosses were nerfed) and I didn't die to any Prime 3 bosses (only played on normal).
Bloodporne
Member
Shit, now I'm going to have to somehow get my hands on a 3DS...
Give AM2R or the original Metroid 2 a try some time in the future after you beat Samus Returns. It's good even if you just want a point of reference for how impressive Samus Returns is.
Neoleo2143
Member
I'm curious as to how good speed runners are going to get with the aiming system and managing missiles and Aeion energy thanks to Lightning Armor. Makes me excited.
bryan12112
Member
I'm pumped. I ordered the Amiibo pack when it was announced, too.
Codiox
Member
Got this game today, really liking it so far,but man this 3ds hardware... The sound quality is so bad, but the OST itself is glorious. Graphics are really pixelated.
The game is also really holding back because it's a remake. I can't imagine how good a new 2d Metroid will be with this engine.
If this ever will get a switch Version I will double dip for the graphic and sound upgrade alone.
The game is also really holding back because it's a remake. I can't imagine how good a new 2d Metroid will be with this engine.
If this ever will get a switch Version I will double dip for the graphic and sound upgrade alone.
They never went away/SAMUS IS BACK
METROID IS BACK BOYS
Jonneh3003
Banned
I thought the sound design was phenomenal! Plug some headphones in, maybe that'll help.
AM2R is still fantastic regardless. This and it don't make each other irrelevant. They can coexist, and AM2R is basically on par with the best Metroid games in terms of quality.
Codiox
Member
Yeah that will help I think. The speaker are just crazy I think
SinCityAssassin
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davidwhangchoi
Member
yo, i heard this is a great game.
glad i pre-ordered
glad i pre-ordered
If anyone was was wondering about controls and how the transition to 2,5D worked...well, you guys are in for a treat. This game is as snappy as classic installments, counter mechanic feels great and traversal is a pure joy.
And that's coming from a person who didn't enjoy 2D platformer in like 20 years. Incredible stuff.
And that's coming from a person who didn't enjoy 2D platformer in like 20 years. Incredible stuff.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
How long is this game supposed to be?
Neoleo2143
Member
About 7-8 for any%, about 10-12 for the 100%.
Neoleo2143
Member
The base difficulty was regarded as difficult by most reviewers, some cited that basic enemies were generally rather aggressive and damaging. So probably closer to Fusion than Zero Mission.
After BotW I think using the Metacritic score in an OT title would be unwise.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Perfection.
Where did you get early?
Glad it's being well received all around. I hope this is the start of a new era of 2D Metroids running alongside the Prime game.
I am now in that awkward situation, when I've just finished a game and I don't want to start another one because I know come Friday it's gonna be left behind.
I am now in that awkward situation, when I've just finished a game and I don't want to start another one because I know come Friday it's gonna be left behind.
Neoleo2143
Member
But we have been inundated with Metroidvania type Games like Axiom Verge, Hollow Knight and AM2R and others. Metroid has to stand out in some way. I think the purity of Metroid and how all the power ups are almost guaranteed usage in some (mostly pretty creative) way for progression is why the series is so strong. It's short and Punchy, 100% completion is satisfying and not hugely tedious most of the time and often has unique challenges throughout to provide consistent variety.
