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[ChorizoPicozo]

i just want to know the general vibes.

the more I think on it. the more likely I see MS killing Game Pass.

Cutting to the chase:

Xbox needs to make money fast and furiously.

1. We know Xbox Studios + Zenimax are not contributing to it.
2. Game Pass hasn't grown. and the growth projections for subscription services are not encouraging
3. Hardware will continue to decline
4. ABK is the sole reason for Xbox's growth in the last quarter; without them, Xbox´s revenue would have declined.
5. The dilemma is existential:

If you launch CoD on Game Pass and the strategy doesn't work out, you'd not only lose direct game sales but also one of the most important cash cows in your entire business...a business desperate to make money. The gambit is too damn risky and is not worth it when CoD by itself is working as a sub-service/platform.​

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Edit:​

Now you can change your vote based on the events of the next two quarters ​

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[mitch1971]

No way!

But I still picked 50/50 because...well, it's MS.

 

[Iced Arcade]

no... but xbox also doesn't know how to run shit.


day 1 should have never been a thing, should be all 1st party games on gamepass 6 months or so after launch, and the subscription should be kept at a favorable price.

 

[anothertech]

Every Xbox fan ever: "To hell with sustainability, I still have 3 years of gamepass I bought for a dollar! Give me COD or I'll sue!"

*laugh emoji*

 

[Mobilemofo]

Or they will introduce a tear system, and have cod locked to that higher level.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[tusharngf]

they increased the regional prices of steam games yesterday.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

 

[Three]

They're more likely to raise prices in the hope that people will pay regardless to cover the cost of CoD. The most telltale sign is the 3:1 ratio if registered 3:2 if not. It means they expect a bunch of people to run out at a specific time at which point a price hike is expected. I'd give it till August /September.

 

[bender]

You aren't bender .

 

[Humdinger]

No way. MS is too heavily invested in GP to just kill it. I can see them restructuring or repricing it, but not just ending it.

 

[AmuroChan]

I don't see them killing GP, but I do see them making some substantial changes.

1. They could roll back the day 1 release policy and have 1st party games get a 45-60 day exclusive window of selling a la carte before becoming available on GP.
2. Make an elite tier for GP membership that's $35 a month and you get access to 1st party games day 1. The regular tier will follow the 45-60 day window mentioned in #1.

 

[LordCBH]

There’s no way they kill Gamepass. They aren’t that smart.

 

[Punished Miku]

ChorizoPicozo wrote a ridiculous clickbait headline.

Just getting some vibes. Use reactions on this post for the poll.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I don't see them killing GP, but I do see them making some substantial changes.

1. They could roll back the day 1 release policy and have 1st party games get a 45-60 day exclusive window of selling a la carte before becoming available on GP.
2. Make an elite tier for GP membership that's $35 a month and you get access to 1st party games day 1. The regular tier will follow the 45-60 day window mentioned in #1.

No way. MS is too heavily invested in GP to just kill it. I can see them restructuring or repricing it, but not just ending it.

day 1 should have never been a thing, should be all 1st party games on gamepass 6 months or so after launch, and the subscription should be kept at a favorable price.

Or they will introduce a tear system, and have cod locked to that higher level.

of course, I wanted to be more clickbaity, that's what the internet taught me.

but I think before killing it, we should see the price increase/restructuring.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

ChorizoPicozo wrote a ridiculous clickbait headline.

Just getting some vibes. Use reactions on this post for the poll.

I know is clickbait...at the same time....have you seen the answers from Sarah Bond?

I don't think Game Pass makes Xbox financially healthy in this "transition period"

 

[Pelao]

I voted not a chance, but really nothing would surprise me from Microsoft at this point.
If they really kill it, I hope they at least offer some good deals on the games available before they do, as there are several games in the catalog that I keep coming back to again and again, mostly Flight Simulator, Forza and a bunch of stuff with local coop.

 

[dorkimoe]

if they killed that they would have 0 monies income from xbox

 

[radewagon]

Not any time soon. You don't train your audience to stop buying games only to do a hard 180 and expect them to stick around. For worse or worser, MS is stuck with this business model for a while.

 

[Barakov]

 

[Punished Miku]

I know is clickbait...at the same time....have you seen the answers from Sarah Bond?

I don't think Game Pass makes Xbox financially healthy in this "transition period"

Im just joking around. GP could survive, change, or be canceled. Nothing would surprise me. I'm just waiting. Giving them until December to hint at what their strategy is for hardware and services. PC gamepass seems fine. GP cant affect PS5 multiplat sales either. We'll see.

 

[feynoob]

Gamepass makes people horny here

 

[reinking]

They are stuck with it. I don't think they have a path to kill it without completely destroying their reputation in the gaming space. It would follow them into any future gaming related endeavors. I do see a scenario where they will start holding back premium titles from day one release on the service. I believe we are already starting to see it since the ABK merger.

 

[bender]

You should have centered your conspiracy theory around this:

Microsoft limits Xbox Game Pass subscription extensions in certain countries

Microsoft is limiting Xbox Game Pass subscription extensions in certain countries to deter players from stacking their …

www.eurogamer.net

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Im just joking around. GP could survive, change, or be canceled. Nothing would surprise me. I'm just waiting. Giving them until December to hint at what their strategy is for hardware and services. PC gamepass seems fine. GP cant affect PS5 multiplat sales either. We'll see.

Im kind of half-joking.

The statements from Matt Booty and the closing of Tango are antithetical to what Game Pass should've enabled.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Gamepass makes people horny here

Sadistic and Masochist

 

[Saber]

I doubt, they are way too stubborn.
I would risk a guess that they gonna be on a mass lay off streak and only leave the big ones releasing content on it as a part of it's new strategy.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

You should have centered your conspiracy theory around this:

Microsoft limits Xbox Game Pass subscription extensions in certain countries

Microsoft is limiting Xbox Game Pass subscription extensions in certain countries to deter players from stacking their …

www.eurogamer.net

nope. i dont read those sites.

 

[Topher]

By the end of the year?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Expand its perks by the time COD comes out

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

By the end of the year?

I mean... I thought all of what's happening with Xbox would've occurred like 3 years after the closing of the ABK acquisition, yet here we are.

 

[Topher]

I mean... I thought all of what's happening with Xbox would've occurred like 3 years after the closing of the ABK acquisition, yet here we are.

 

[Clintizzle]

I love Gamepass and hope it stays.

 

[bitbydeath]

Gamepass makes people horny here

You aren’t Homelander

 

[bender]

I mean... I thought all of what's happening with Xbox would've occurred like 3 years after the closing of the ABK acquisition, yet here we are.

 

[havoc00]

Xbox president Sarah Bond has confirmed that the company will continue to launch its first-party games, including Activision titles like Call of Duty, on Game Pass. This news comes in the midst of a period of uncertainty over the subscription service, as recent reports claimed that Microsoft was internally debating whether new Call of Duty titles should be launched on Xbox Game Pass.

Microsoft Provides Update on Call of Duty for Game Pass

Xbox president Sarah Bond provides an update on the prospect of new Activision and Call of Duty games eventually launching onto Xbox Game Pass.

gamerant.com

 

[Nydius]

No way they’re going to kill it but as people have repeatedly pointed out they’ve painted themselves into a corner. They’re going to have to make changes to it, otherwise they end up destroying the profitability of the big name properties they spent $70B to obtain. But making any changes to it will certainly piss off the very people they already have subscribed because “all first party, day one on game pass” was a — if not the — primary selling point.

A price increase drives people away. Diluting it by adding higher tiers will also drive people away. Backtracking on adding first party day one will drive even their most ardent fans away. They’ve royally screwed themselves.

 

[begotten]

Delete Game Pass and make poor people start paying for games again.

If they can't do that then they should go find a more suitable hobby like collecting rocks.

 

[Yoda]

This lady is a McKinsey alum, all they do is fire and outsource. Once Phil is out she's the obvious replacement. Darker times are certainly coming for XBox.

 

[Generic]

Every Xbox fan ever: "To hell with sustainability, I still have 3 years of gamepass I bought for a dollar! Give me COD or I'll sue!"

*laugh emoji*

This but unironically. Charging $70 on a single game should be a crime.

 

[onQ123]

Gamepass is the endgame. They might have tried it too soon but that's pretty much where it's going to end . The kids coming along now don't really care about owning the games as long as they can get the DLC

 

[Gravemind]

Get real.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Gamepass is the endgame. They might have tried it too soon but that's pretty much where it's going to end . The kids coming along now don't really care about owning the games as long as they can get the DLC

Roblox
Fornite
CoD
Diablo
Overwatch
etc

GaaS function as subs-service (season passes) / platforms (multiple types of games) by themselves. a sub service to have access to those is kind of redundant.

 

[Katajx]

They could rethink some of the Day 1 stuff, but that’s probably as far as it goes.

 

[onQ123]

Roblox
Fornite
CoD
Diablo
Overwatch
etc

GaaS function as subs-service (season passes) / platforms (multiple types of games) by themselves. a sub service to have access to those is kind of redundant.

True but if someone was to get ownership of these games & include the seasons in their subscription they will have the kids.

 

[Heisenberg007]

EOY seems too soon for it.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

True but if someone was to get ownership of these games & include the seasons in their subscription they will have the kids.

i think that's unfesable.

there's a reason why those types of games are so aggressive with MTX's... That's where the money comes from. meaning: these devs are insanely pressured to incentive transactions; and we also know that not many people meaningful engage with them, and a lot of people buys MTX's once in while at best.

Giving away some kind of season pass/cosmetics etc.. is a mistake as big as promising day one games on Game Pass.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

EOY seems too soon for it.

that's what I thought until MS decided to put their games on PS and close a bunch of his studios....and counting

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Why does Gamepass existence trigger sone people so badly. If you don’t like it, don’t use it and move on.

 

[Nydius]

Why does Gamepass existence trigger sone people so badly. If you don’t like it, don’t use it and move on.

You’re SO close to having the epiphany as to why Xbox is falling apart but aren’t quite there yet. It’ll sink in, eventually. Maybe.