Neither Russia nor NK would survive the retaliation that would be heading their way in that event, so it's probably not something you need to worry about.
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NBC News: U.S. May Launch Strike If North Korea Reaches For Nuclear Trigger
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BreezyLimbo
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Russia has no horse in NK except for them to cause destabilization. If the US goes at NK, and if a deal was made that China would simply rebuff refugees, then NK has no allies at all. They will be alone on their exit, and Russia will have no reason to step in.
As for NK's capabilities, they don't have many. Other than the artillery aimed at SK, they've only recently been able to launch certain missiles past Japan(IIRC) and unless they want to face the full force of the Chinese Power, they dare not fire through China.
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There is certainly far more justification to enter a conflict with North Korea, who has demonstrated nuclear capabilities, has continually been improving their delivery capabilities, and loves to threaten nuclear death and destruction on the United States every chance they get than there was with Iraq, which is also concerning.
Trumps gonna have a whole lot of US troops blood on his hands besides just Koreans.
US attacks-> NK retaliates by bombing seoul with artillery
What happens after is the question. If Kim backs off we might be OK, if not we'll see a offensive onto SK.
Bobnob
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I believe the the USA as a missile defence system in the UK.
R10Neymarfan
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This one is the gem to break out
TheBryanJZX90
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I don't understand why this is happening now. NK has been crazy and playing around with missiles for years without requiring any kind of response like this. What changed?
Sorry, didn't mean for that to be taken seriously. Should have been more sarcastic.
Just like he did not strike Syria or drop a MOAB today? Trump is an imbecile, but he is not afraid to order military action and instead seems incredibly anxious to do it.
This is more an example of a military without a president to reign them in doing what it wants. Given how history has revealed military leadership to be, it's kinda shocking they haven't gotten Trump to sign off on using Nukes.
This one is the gem to break out
Subtitle aside, that image is fucking terrifying.
We just recently elected a manchild just as crazy as NK's leader as President of the United States.
Nothing will happen. Big talk then NK gets a last minute aid package to get them to not test for a little bit (so Trump can pretend to be a master negotiator) and this gets repeated next year.
RPGCrazied
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Trump becoming President. He is unhinged. He probably would strike first.
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Bobnob
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There testing longer range missiles and developing shrunken warheads is what i read.
JordanN
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Except, I don't recall any country calling for the "World Police" to do something.
North Korea is crazy but they've been that way since the 1950s. Throwing in a new war will just result in chaos without a permanent solution. Just like we saw when Bush II said "It's time for Saddam to go" and "Mission accomplished" but the region still hasn't fixed itself. How is North Korea going to be any better?
Kill Your Masters
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Trump doesn't care. America first. We the rest of the world are just collateral damage.
Insane Metal
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Trump?
Mr. Wonderful
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I'm trying to imagine what the end state of this would be, and how it could end in any other way than North Korea being an "Eastern Block" to China, or (maybe after a long period of time), annexed into China under some BS "One China" imperialism move.
China would have to play really nice with the International community to allow a unified Korea with a strong US ally now on their border.
China would have to play really nice with the International community to allow a unified Korea with a strong US ally now on their border.
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Well the solution here will likely be Korean unification.
It'll be a long, costly struggle to get there though.
BreezyLimbo
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Yup, and they keep doing it. Over and over. And over. The more they do it the more refined their weapons get. So if they test their capabilities again, that's a test that leads to better tech for them.
Sooner or later we're going to have to react. Rather sooner whilst their still in an infantile stage of missile warfare than later.
Is Seoul is bombed I don't see a reality that doesn't involve going all in on NK from the SK perspective.
That would be the most "peaceful" solution.
do you have any idea how many folks are in the reserves? its an insane amount........even if we went to war with Russia, china and NK there probably still wouldn't be a draft
US got caught kinda suprised by NK apparently being close to having working ICBMs that could reach the west coast
Well that's the question.
If NK bombs seoul is SK willing to retaliate and risk getting nuked or not
LegendofJoe
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And that is yet another major consequence of the Iraq war. While Cheney and co. were destabilizing the ME North Korea was allowed to become a nuclear power.
You know what? after seeing the news from the MOAB and this one I think this is correct. The only people that Trump "respects" enough to hear are the military (Mattis and McMaster for example). And while I prefer them to have the ear of the president than Bannon I think we have a problem of "if the only tool you have is a hammer you treat everything as if it were a nail". The U.S. military is certainly capable but they only know how to solve problems in a certain way.
thehypocrite
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Don't worry. I'm sure they'll find creative ways to get as many people as possible to fight for "freedom" and America.
Trump has to get the hang of that president thing, and that means taking his military out for a test drive. Obama was willing to listen to his advisors and let the NK money and food for peace and quiet deal continue. If NK went hard, the US would have acted as the policy was clear. Trump doesn't have the same advice, and thinks NK isn't as boxed in as the rest of the world does. So he's going to risk it, and by it I mean the local area if they do have usable nukes, and of course South Korea to whatever retaliation strategy NK has had cooked up for the last 50 years.
whatever he does, he can't take back, can't tamp down, can't pull out of, and won't finish in his presidency. but he still might start something. even if he doesn't have the will to finish it.
ArkkAngel007
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More like Trump and his administration are doing the same thing, both to keep up the fear of the 'other' to bolster support of their isolationist and xenophobic policies, as well as to put on a face for the nationalistic/militant corner.
That said, if the PRK does utilize this test as an act of aggression, it is the US' place to halt that. Unless those who are so worried about South Korea and Japan facing retaliation/fallout from the US initiating only care from that angle and the PRK is free to do what they will against others.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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If we went to war with a billion and a half people I'm pretty sure there would be a draft.
Trumps more concerned about adding the achievement to his Twitter profile than he is about seeking political capital.
China isn't going to war over NK. They couldn't give two shits about it as long as it stays a buffer between the US and china.
Don't they need satellites to guide the missiles which they don't have?
But there's gonna one helluva profit gain, baby!
Trump is a narcissistic asshole who wants to show how "strong' he is. No other president would attack NK so he wants to in order to show he's better then them. It's about his ego and damn the consequences.
Mkay. I think I'll be safe.
smokeandmirrors
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any land war with north korea involved will require more than that.
either way i dont trust republicans to not go HEY WE NEED PEOPLE TO FIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY TIME FOR A DRAFT for the fuck of it because republicans are stupid.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Except not? This isn't WWII and storming the beaches Normandy. People launch rockets and drones.
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