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Nintendo Going Mobile: Smartphone Game Deal with DeNA [First Games Fall 2015]
- Thread starter TheGreatDirector
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Jawmuncher
Member
I'm not expecting much. I don't see Nintendo cannibalizing their own handheld.
balladofwindfishes
Member
This is exactly what they said they're not going to do.
Basileus777
Member
The idea that this doesn't have the potential to influence the resources they put into traditional games is idealistic at best. After all, Nintendo is already going to to use internal development resources for this.
You might want to read this post:this seems appropriate:
What if there isn't even another dedicated Nintendo handheld hardware.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=156268654&postcount=762
Empyrean Heaven
Member
About time.
Before you Ninty fanboys start freaking out, relax, this is probably just going to be shit like Puzzle and Dragons with Mario and Pokemon Shuffle. In short, cheaply-made F2P shit that Nintendo can use to promote their larger content base on 3DS and Wii U. You aren't going to see classic stuff like Super Mario Bros. or Zelda 1 anytime soon unless things get REALLY desperate.
Also, expect this shit to be Android-only. No way Nintendo teams up, even by association, with Apple or Microsoft.
Either way, Nintendo is going to make bank off of this. This is a necessary move.
Before you Ninty fanboys start freaking out, relax, this is probably just going to be shit like Puzzle and Dragons with Mario and Pokemon Shuffle. In short, cheaply-made F2P shit that Nintendo can use to promote their larger content base on 3DS and Wii U. You aren't going to see classic stuff like Super Mario Bros. or Zelda 1 anytime soon unless things get REALLY desperate.
Also, expect this shit to be Android-only. No way Nintendo teams up, even by association, with Apple or Microsoft.
Either way, Nintendo is going to make bank off of this. This is a necessary move.
Holy crap, reading this thread a lot of people are already expecting lackluster, half-assed efforts, and we haven't even seen a single game yet. It's best not to assume anything.
What happened to brand dilution? are some of you thinking Nintendo is going to suddenly drop their core development philosophies when they begin to develop on a new platform?
What happened to brand dilution? are some of you thinking Nintendo is going to suddenly drop their core development philosophies when they begin to develop on a new platform?
Some post here are so laughable. They are still going to make wiiu 3ds games.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Except that Pokemon Shuffle is a lot of fun. Has better music then a lot of games as well.
this seems appropriate:
What if there isn't even another dedicated Nintendo handheld hardware.
If you are posting it to show you are a bitter old grumpy person who is unwilling to accept change and the industry trends? Then yes, it is appropriate. A lot here have a "GET OFF MY LAWN!" mentality which is just embarrasing.
Nintendo themselves is developing mobile games, and Iwata said they are committed to making some of the best on the platform. That is great news to everyone.
If there is much more money to be made on mobiles, why would the continue supporting their own consoles.
Anyone?
Well not putting games on non-nintendo platforms was part of their core philosophy as well so there's that.
There's a serious lack of "vision" going on in this topic. Everybody is actually convinced that mobile offers nothing of value or originality. The reputation of mobile is so low that even Nintendo doesn't reverse the cynicism.
YuriLowell
Member
Welp this is the beginning of the end.
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
It is
To be fair that's not strictly Nintendo
chicagocubsfan
Member
Not looking forward to Reggie holding an iPhone in the E3 direct. 
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Infinity Blade is an example I like to point to; it was made by a 12 man team from Epic/Chair in 5 months. The game used the Unreal 3 engine...you really think it's going to take a ton of time/resources for Nintendo to throw mini game collections on an App Store? I saw this argument used all the time when people were saying Nintendo would never go mobile and it has never made sense.
Not looking forward to Reggie holding an iPhone in the E3 direct.
Oh boohoo. This is fanboyism at its worst.
first thought:
Fuck!
second thought:
There might be hope, they are partnering with DeNa instead of doing it all by themselves. This could be something like Nintendo and Sega/Namco developing Arcade games that were based on Gamecube or WiiU games. Those games didn't replace the GC Version of F-zero or the WiiU version of Mario Kart, but they were another avenue for getting money from people who might recognize the IPs but wouldn't buy hardware to play it on.
I don't think a new Nintendo console and Smartphone games are mutually exclusive: The consoles for the 10-20 million hardcore Nintendo fans that will buy tons of Amiibo just because they love the characters and smartphone games for the Blue Ocean Wii crowd, just with recognizable IPs.
edit: Just saw the other thread about their "Project NX" thing. That sounds a lot like a new console with an account system for the core. This could have been a lot worse, they could have focused solely on smartphones...
Fuck!
second thought:
There might be hope, they are partnering with DeNa instead of doing it all by themselves. This could be something like Nintendo and Sega/Namco developing Arcade games that were based on Gamecube or WiiU games. Those games didn't replace the GC Version of F-zero or the WiiU version of Mario Kart, but they were another avenue for getting money from people who might recognize the IPs but wouldn't buy hardware to play it on.
I don't think a new Nintendo console and Smartphone games are mutually exclusive: The consoles for the 10-20 million hardcore Nintendo fans that will buy tons of Amiibo just because they love the characters and smartphone games for the Blue Ocean Wii crowd, just with recognizable IPs.
edit: Just saw the other thread about their "Project NX" thing. That sounds a lot like a new console with an account system for the core. This could have been a lot worse, they could have focused solely on smartphones...
Piston Hyundai
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this seems appropriate:
considering the themes of that movie, it's far more appropriate than you probably wanted, dude
I say it depends on how big a success it will be. If it is a huge success, why be in the risky and low-margin console-buisness at all?
Only very simple games that are easy to copy get endless copycats. Was there endless copycats for Oceanhorn? GTA? Walking Dead? Scribblenauts? Minecraft?
I'm sure there were a couple, but nothing like Flappy Bird that nearly anyone can make.
The statement that F2P is for the most part absent on console gaming is false?
Ah ah ah.
So a 33% stake in Pokemon will allow them to associate with Apple, but a 10% stake in DeNA will not?
The assumption that Nintendo is going to just allow their IPs to be in tons of shit software is head scratching.
Masquerader
Member
Pokemon on mobile would probably help alleviate its rapidly aging (and therefore dying) fanbase.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
In the contrary they acted swiftly before things got bad.
infiniteloop
Member
Nintendo are doing this to make money.
Interfectum
Member
lol what.
It's mobile's rep. What if Nintendo puts out great games and actually pulls the reputation of mobile software out of the mud a little bit?
Yuuup. A perfectly appropriate GIF for the negative reactions in this thread. A bunch of old negative nancies without much actual thought recoiling simply because they have no clue just how far smartphone games have come and just how much potential for consumers and producers are in that market.
Great news for gamers and for Nintendo.
lol at the idea this wont be on iOS. iOS is still much more lucrative in terms of revenue for games than Android (iPhone users more willing to spend money on apps than Android users). It is why to this day games still tend to come to iOS first before Android. There is no way Nintendo wouldn't release the titles on the most profitable of the two mobile platforms. So many dumb posts in this thread, its unreal. It's like this news caused fanboys to lose any grasp of reality they had.
There are dozens of GTA clones and Millions of Minecraft clones on the Play and ITunes stores.
Samurai_Heart
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Gucci Messiah
Banned
Never seen it but isn't he just a grumpy old man who is threatened change?
Seems about right for some of the posts in here. I laugh every time I see somebody say they are boycotting Nintendo for diversifying their business. It's not like they are just going to pull a SEGA and abandon dedicated hardware.
Nintendo games have been cloned since before I was born, yet Nintendo never seems to be threatened or dethroned. It's hard to replicate a Nintendo game's quality. Heck, it's hard to replicate a Nintendo game's feel. Cheap cloners might as well be putting out different games altogether.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I just don't think the tcg makes for a good argument. It's been on PC for a while etc.
My comment really should've been "to be fair it's the tcg"
Yea I guess you're right there's no precedent for it.
Let me just say I'm not really that negative about it more cautiously optimistic I genuinely hope it works out for them without replacing their core hardware business. IE it strengthens their brands and encourages sales of the dedicated platforms.
That's a business strategy, not philosophy.
Business strategy can change with the times but a good company/development philosophy can be easily adapted to work within those changes. A sentence like "let's make good products instead of bad ones" works whatever happens to the strategy.
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