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[ShadyAcshuns]

OMG gurl! Working a full time job is a privilege! Boo hoo you can't work out and lolly around all day. Look at all the homeless and the poor. Be glad you have an education and life structure. Makes me furious to see people of privilege not being appreciative of the wonderful things they have right under their nose.

 

[kiphalfton]

Dudes ridiculing people pointing out the obvious probably would have ridiculed the men and women fighting and dying at the hands of corporate defending police and other government forces to establish the 8 hour "standard" that nowadays keep getting stretched further further away from that.

Or the good ol, I suffered (naw I just loved my job so much that I didn't have time for anything else, I was good at it, I'm proud of it, lul) and so should everyone else.

Definitely.

But I've seen enough "wfh" or similar arguments on here, I know where this is probably going to go.

Like you said, you'll get the people who waste however many hours at work defending corporate practices. Or using shaming tactics and acting like you're a loser or immature if you don't accept that. Or giving some stupid ass suggestion oversimplifying the issue (i.e. "well if you don't like it then [insert some useless suggestion, that is far easier said than done]")

People complain because there's not much else that can be done. That's all they have left, as all agency has been taken away and they don't have enough influence to change anything.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

This is how we all probably feel, but going on social media and crying about it isn’t going to fix it. This is capitalism unfortunately and I’m not sure if there’s a better system. From looking around the world at other countries this seems like the best we can do and we are all very lucky in the grand scheme of things.

Work life balance is fucked up in general though and especially in Japan.

 

[cireza]

When you think about having only like 4 hours to yourself, that's not a great feeling.

Don't even think about having kids.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

With a company in the midst of generational change from the Miyamoto generation passing on everything to younger generations, anyone joining Nintendo has big shoes to fill. You're literally talking about the gold standard/ masterclass software publisher and developer, the envy of the world. Anyone joining has a lot to live up to, but they also recently raised all their starting salaries for their developers, and let's be honest Nintendo doesn't have an issue with finding good talent.

 

[jufonuk]

This is how we all probably feel, but going on social media and crying about it isn’t going to fix it. This is capitalism unfortunately and I’m not sure if there’s a better system. From looking around the world at other countries this seems like the best we can do and we are all very lucky in the grand scheme of things.

Work life balance is fucked up in general though and especially in Japan.

I agree with your post. In Europe it’s a lot better, with work life balance. Also Getting taxed more if you work two jobs and free health care. Meaning you can’t get forced into stuff. Usually better workers rights and a shed more holiday and maternity leave than the USA. But yeh nowadays shit is expensive.

I feel sorry for a lot of workers in the US with the crap they get forced to do.
However
I do feel we are not meant to be stuck at a desk for hours at a time.

But we have to do what we have to do to provide. You shouldn’t make work the be all and end all. Work to live. Not live to work.

 

[diffusionx]

The reality is I think most of us had these thoughts when we started workking, we just didnt have narcissistic social media to cry about it.

She is a pretty young woman who has a way out the workforce if she wants it, but that's a whole other kettle of fish and this is how it is for working people. If she's not willing to do the work then someone will.

 

[March Climber]

The employee: "Nintendo is a great company full of smart and creative individuals. I managed to accomplish a goal in working there for a while but moved on to something I excel at."

People in this thread who just read the headline: "Why is the employee whining about needing talent in a field where talent is necessary?"

Me: "I didn't see any whining? They had a moment of self-realization, then did the right thing and left without complaint."

 

[Hudo]

Yet none of these "geniuses" managed to make a new F-Zero.

 

[Murdok]

His statement was very vague, I wish he had elaborated more.

What would have been his difficulty? High work demands and commitment? Long workload? Overly ambitious goals? Too much competition and pressure? What do you think his problem was?

 

[PanzerCute]

His statement was very vague, I wish he had elaborated more.

What would have been his difficulty? High work demands and commitment? Long workload? Overly ambitious goals? Too much competition and pressure? What do people think?

Yeah definitely, he doesn't say anything in the end.

 

[Alexios]

His statement was very vague, I wish he had elaborated more.

What would have been his difficulty? High work demands and commitment? Long workload? Overly ambitious goals? Too much competition and pressure? What do you think his problem was?

Someone ate half of his thanksgiving leftover turkey sandwich and now he'd rather put those days behind him, live a quiet life and forget all about its moist maker.

 

[NikuNashi]

Nintendo sure knows how to pick them and they seem to like working there. The Employee retention and longevity of working at Nintendo is well known. Also, we have not heard much about disgruntled employees but we’ve heard the opposite and many people have confirm the pay at Nintendo is above industry standard(even in this article). It’s not like Koichi Miura is an unknown, he’s been in the industry for a very long time.

Not saying Nintendo developers are the greatest but it’s more proof of high quality of developers working at Nintendo.

Japan on the whole is unique for employee retention, once you become seishaine (permanent employee) it's very difficult to fire somebody and people see a good company as a job for life.

However even given that Nintendo is unique. It has the highest retention rate amongst major companies in Japan, it's retention is close to 99%. Which is amazing. It's also the reason it's practically impossible to get a job there, people do not leave.

 

[cireza]

What do you think his problem was?

Whichever his problem might have been in the past, right now this problem is being able to run fast enough to not be caught by the ninjas chasing after him.

 

[Ronin_7]

Valve is the same way.

Well for everyone else there's always Ubisoft.

Valve is top tier talent indeed.

 

[daxgame]

In slow news day, average joe realized he wasn't cut to the level of his former company.

 

[Scotty W]

This is offensive. We need to bring Nintendo down so that it is more average.

 

[fart town usa]

What he said makes complete sense and it's not a snipe at Nintendo. You might be a good fit and meet qualifications at an employer but if they are working at a level that just isn't natural to you, it's going to be stressful.

The stress comes from yourself, not necessarily from bad culture at the employer. If you truly care about the business, your teammates, etc. you're going to want to be on their level and if you aren't, it would be "hell" for yourself because you'd feel like you're not contributing as much as you should be.

People who aren't at the level and don't care that they aren't would love being at Nintendo, let everyone else do the heavy lifting while you skate. It wouldn't be hell for them.

This guy is just being thoughtful and people shouldn't read into it as something negative. He's being critical of himself, not Nintendo.

 

[nkarafo]

That's great. Some jobs require special talents/skills.

If you are an average person there are tons of jobs that don't require you to be a genius or have special skills.

OMG gurl! Working a full time job is a privilege! Boo hoo you can't work out and lolly around all day. Look at all the homeless and the poor. Be glad you have an education and life structure. Makes me furious to see people of privilege not being appreciative of the wonderful things they have right under their nose.

I hate my day job too. Most do.

Now, i won't cry about it on social media but i do cry inside.

Now, you are free to lower your standards and compare yourself to the less fortunate so you can feel better.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I hate my day job too. Most do.

Now, i won't cry about it on social media but i do cry inside.

Now, you are free to lower your standards and compare yourself to the less fortunate so you can feel better.

Or, maybe you're just being ungrateful and entitled? Look outside your windows and see the state of the world we live in, and then re-assess your thoughts.

 

[nkarafo]

Or, maybe you're just being ungrateful and entitled? Look outside your windows and see the state of the world we live in, and then re-assess your thoughts.

You just proved my point.

 

[GigaBowser]

if I worked at nintendos I would do good decisions

 

[Gambit2483]

I worked for a major corporation straight out of college.

I'm done with corporate life. Not for me.

 

[LordOcidax]

This is offensive. We need to bring Nintendo down so that it is more average.

Can’t wait for ERA to make a shit storm about this, lol.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Can’t wait for ERA to make a shit storm about this, lol.

Who cares what they do? Oh, and I was told by a mod NOT to talk about that place here.

 

[Codeblew]

Sounds like he had Impostors Syndrome. It is pretty common in software development. I had it early in my career until I realized I wasn't as dumb as I had originally thought.

 

[bender]

Yet none of these "geniuses" managed to make a new F-Zero.

The new F-Zero is my favorite game this year.

 

[RoboFu]

Don’t be average and normal then.

 

[AJUMP23]

Nintendo is full of geniuses that know when to release and re-release all their games.

 

[T-0800]

What she says is true though...

Who fucking cares if she's crying, it IS a big fucking deal. When you think about having only like 4 hours to yourself, that's not a great feeling.

And I don't know how the whole "9-5" schedule keeps getting perpetuated, as that shit doesn't exist anywhere I've ever seen. It's always 8-5, with a mandatory lunch break. But I can see why people like to say 9-5, as it better fits their narrative; as well as ignoring commute time, traffic, etc. that also lends to more time wasted.

I worked a job 18 years that was 9 to 5.

 

[March Climber]

I worked for a major corporation straight out of college.

I'm done with corporate life. Not for me.

Without being too revealing, what type of work did you end up doing after?

 

[Gambit2483]

Without being too revealing, what type of work did you end up doing after?

I live in the DMV (District/Maryland/Virginia) area. I went into the governmental department area.

 

[Sojiro]

I worked a job 18 years that was 9 to 5.

And I worked at at a restaurant for 8 years of my life all through college and a bit after working 50+ hours a week very often. But I am not going to shit on her for voicing about a situation that is stressful and sucks. Granted I just did what I had to do, but it doesn't mean everyone else should have to tough it out with a smile

 

[Killer8]

Looking at the results, ie. releasing banger after banger and the Switch being on track to become the best selling console of all time, it's hard to really argue with the results of the Nintendo meritocracy. If I was Shuntaro Furukawa, I would change very little in how the business is run.

 

[T-0800]

And I worked at at a restaurant for 8 years of my life all through college and a bit after working 50+ hours a week very often. But I am not going to shit on her for voicing about a situation that is stressful and sucks. Granted I just did what I had to do, but it doesn't mean everyone else should have to tough it out with a smile

Huh? Did you mean to quote me because that doesn't make any sense in response to what I said?

 

[Rhazkul]

Great to see that some companies still value meritocracy and excellence and don't hand out participation trophies to pink and blue haired snowflakes. This is why i love Nintendo.

 

[Rhazkul]

Been there. I feel for her. Lady, change your job. It seems like she has a job that she hates. If she had a job she enjoys, she wouldn't even feel like working.

 

[Tams]

Valve is the same way.

Well for everyone else there's always Ubisoft.

No they aren't. They barely make and release any games these days.

 

[bronzodiriace]

Valve is the same way.

Well for everyone else there's always Ubisoft.

ahahahahhha you win

 

[Chronicle]

That's seems common everywhere. I've never been good at school and I suck at learning and man I've tried. Thankfully I found a job at a large production facility that pays a living wage with great benefits. I can handle that. But the smart guys there do waaaay better.

 

[Hudo]

Thankfully I found a job at a large production facility that pays a living wage with great benefits.

That's the real genius right there.

So, you're a genius as well, imho.

 

[Woopah]

Japan on the whole is unique for employee retention, once you become seishaine (permanent employee) it's very difficult to fire somebody and people see a good company as a job for life.

However even given that Nintendo is unique. It has the highest retention rate amongst major companies in Japan, it's retention is close to 99%. Which is amazing. It's also the reason it's practically impossible to get a job there, people do not leave.

Their new buildings and massive expansion should help with that.

 

[eNT1TY]

He should have transferred GameFreak...

 

[MLSabre]

The employee: "Nintendo is a great company full of smart and creative individuals. I managed to accomplish a goal in working there for a while but moved on to something I excel at."

People in this thread who just read the headline: "Why is the employee whining about needing talent in a field where talent is necessary?"

Me: "I didn't see any whining? They had a moment of self-realization, then did the right thing and left without complaint."

People just love making drama out of nothing. Reading too much into something that isn't there can be a detriment.

 

[StueyDuck]

Not really seeing all the drama,
Dude had a job, wasn't cut out for it and found a new one.

Everyone's had that one job where no matter how good or bad you are, something just doesn't work there for you personally at the company, maybe its a boss or a work culture or just the area itself the office is situated in and you leave to find something that suits you better.

Also there are different departments and so on. We don't really know this guys story, he doesn't elaborate much, but he may of had a hard time where he was but working in a different branch or department at Nintendo is probably a completely different experience. You can't really paint these things with broad brush strokes.

 

[Lethal01]

She's right, having work be your entire life is just trash, and I'm happy I never settled for "well atleast It's better than being homeless"
People are free to be thankful for it I'm happy to make what they make with time to actually live.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

One of my good buddies worked at the Nintendo Canada division during the Wii years. He hated it.

He was in Sales and unlike other big companies with lots of support roles and departments, he (a sales guy) had to do everything himself. Financial analysis, category analysis etc.... like each sales guy is one man show.

And the bosses were all lackies who had to listen to what Nintendo Japan dictated. Iron fisted with zero regional autonomy.

 

[Tams]

He was in Sales

Found the main problem.

 

[reektann]

I guess don’t be average?

 

[Hudo]

I guess don’t be average?

That's what she said.