It doesn’t make sense to you.The Switch Pro doesn't even make sense. First off how is it going to work? Is it going to be an upgraded handheld? Welp there goes the thermal and power consumption envelope not to mention a dramatic uptick in cost merely because of the form factor.
Oh it's going to be a new dock? So essentially they're going to sell you a second console on top of the one you bought but you're going to need to have the Switch arbitrarily for operation when in reality the dock should be 100% standalone.
None of it makes any sense.
Pokemon is the main ingredient for every Nintendo handheld success.Nintendo handhelds (which switch kind of is) always do great.
when was the last time a Nintendo portable system sold bad?
The same way PS4pro and XBX workThe Switch Pro doesn't even make sense. First off how is it going to work? Is it going to be an upgraded handheld? Welp there goes the thermal and power consumption envelope not to mention a dramatic uptick in cost merely because of the form factor.
Oh it's going to be a new dock? So essentially they're going to sell you a second console on top of the one you bought but you're going to need to have the Switch arbitrarily for operation when in reality the dock should be 100% standalone.
None of it makes any sense.
I don't think those consoles can play Pokemon Games.mhm his information is wrong. Wii dropped like a rock the moment kinect and move started selling. Also the Wii aged HORRIFICALLY due to it's horrible xbox specs as the PS4/XONE started launching with tech that was two generations ahead of wii.
If nintendo does not drop a 4K SWITCH PRO that has specs on par with at least a ps4 pro, good luck against the PS5 and SERIES X. Especially if remote play takes off.
Releasing $500 console is really a big gamble for those companies.Nope, for as long as they keep making great games they’ll be fine. It’s only a small bunch of neckbeard nerds who care too much about teraflops.
I don't think those consoles can play Pokemon Games.
3ds sold nearly 75m thanks to Pokemon.
Switch is currently outpacing 3ds+WiiU and PS4 launch alligned.
One thing to note, Wii was heavily owned by casual and soccer mom demographic.
Wii Sport - 83m
Wii Sport Resort - 33m
Wii Fit - 22m
Wii Fit Plus - 21m
Wii Play - 28m
Wii Party - 9m
Zelda Skyward Sword only sold 4m lol while BOTW is the highest selling Zelda and tracking to pass 20m barrier soon.
SMO is already the best selling 3d Mario.
Smash Bros Ultimate is the best selling Smash.
SMP is tracking to be the best selling Mario Party Game.
LM3 is tracking to sell more than 10m
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is going after 37m barrier with 17m more to go.
Switch audience = core Nintendo fanbase and not casual fans that go after smartphone craze in 2010.
true. I don’t expect Nintendo to disappear at all tbh. I think they are at their most popular since the wii era. Switch is the 3Ds and Wii U platform come together. That’s some 80 million or so people as a home base. So I wouldn’t be shocked if switch sold upwards of 80 million units. But there will be a big disparity between it and the ps5 when it comes to visual fidelity and loading times.
Nintendo is in a different boat. They don't even need good third party support. When was the last time they had top notch third party games like PS and Xbox systems have? Maybe Gamecube?Nintendo will thrive while the other two will fail...
The next Nintendo system after Switch..
If it can provide amazing hardware to sustain third party game support ...combined with their amazing first party game...will be the an epic system that xbox and ps would never achieve...
Nintendo is in a different boat. They don't even need good third party support. When was the last time they had top notch third party games like PS and Xbox systems have? Maybe Gamecube?
A good price, a cool gameplay factor and first party games. That's all they need. The brand can live off gamers buying 10 first party games and a handful of small scale games or gimped third party ports.
Sony and MS are different. People expect more games, more power, better online, more system features you name it. Higher expectations.
I would like to see that too. And I'm not even a Nintendo gamer. Haven't been since SNES.There were times when they have power house unit
N64 and Gamecube were ahead of Playstation back then
Would love to see the return of that ( Nintendo to outmuscle the competition )
Nintendo will thrive while the other two will fail...
The next Nintendo system after Switch..
If it can provide amazing hardware to sustain third party game support ...combined with their amazing first party game...will be the an epic system that xbox and ps would never achieve...
A die shrink wouldn't alleviate any of the problems I outlined if your intention was a 'Pro' console.It doesn’t make sense to you.
You do realize there are die shrinks to make things more power efficient and have better battery life.
nVidia doesn’t like being left out of the console market and makes custom SOC for Nintendo like Mariko but better, you ask how it’s going to work? Duh , like the old one just better.
There have been confirmed reports from Sharp and other insiders saying they are suppliers for new IGZO screens which surprise are again more energy
efficient .
This doesn't explain away anything.The same way PS4pro and XBX work
Wow that was such an insightful post.SEX won’t sink anything aside from its owners living rooms with that mini fridge design.
I doubt either Sony or Nintendo are worried about it.
Aren’t you tired of always being wrong?They may not sink it but honestly who will actually care about it? The Switch had the luxury of launching when people were already thinking about new consoles from Microsoft and Sony, when they were on the beginning of a downward trend.
To make matters worse for Switch 3rd party is basically going to cease in its entirety. I mean right now it barely gets anything from the 8th gen and is surviving on first party, old ports from the 360/PS3 and indie games.
I sold mine, it's becoming a shovelware platform like the Wii and getting abandoned by third party like the Wii U.
First post and it's already about Xbox, could you people be any more buttblasted about their console...
You seriously think Series X and PS5 won't hurt business for the Switch in a noticeable capacity?Aren’t you tired of always being wrong?
Nintendo systems are for fans of their first party games, and form factor/gameplay gimmick. And as a diversion, some small scale indie games or shovelware to round out the game library.They may not sink it but honestly who will actually care about it? The Switch had the luxury of launching when people were already thinking about new consoles from Microsoft and Sony, when they were on the beginning of a downward trend.
To make matters worse for Switch 3rd party is basically going to cease in its entirety. I mean right now it barely gets anything from the 8th gen and is surviving on first party, old ports from the 360/PS3 and indie games.
I sold mine, it's becoming a shovelware platform like the Wii and getting abandoned by third party like the Wii U.
First post and it's already about Xbox, could you people be any more buttblasted about their console...
Which plays completely into what I've said, that when those systems release it's going to eat a big portion of Nintendo's lunch. People are going to be thinking about them, talking about them, focused on the games coming out for them, spending their money on them. Sure the Switch will continue to sell but a portion of the finances being poured into their market is going to be diverted away without any shred of a doubt.Nintendo systems are for fans of their first party games, and form factor/gameplay gimmick. And as a diversion, some small scale indie games or shovelware to round out the game library.
If any gamer is buying a Nintendo console expecting top notch third party support, you're about 3 generations too late.
When even money hoarding EA doesn't bother releasing most of their games on a console, you know the audience doesn't care about third party games.
Even when a Nintendo system did have good third party games at release (Wii U), the buyers still didn't give a shit. They'd rather play Call if Duty, Batman, Mass Effect etc.... on MS, Sony or PC. Those Wii U versions were supposed to be pretty good, yet sales still stunk.
I can’t wait to use it as a fridge to store my beer and chips.SEX won’t sink anything aside from its owners living rooms with that mini fridge design.
I doubt either Sony or Nintendo are worried about it.
Yup.Which plays completely into what I've said, that when those systems release it's going to eat a big portion of Nintendo's lunch. People are going to be thinking about them, talking about them, focused on the games coming out for them, spending their money on them. Sure the Switch will continue to sell but a portion of the finances being poured into their market is going to be diverted away without any shred of a doubt.
Nintendo's biggest enemy is Nintendo.Doesn't Nintendo usually stay in their own lane every generation anyway?
They don't pose a threat and they don't have any perceived threats to their business model.
We have gaming market expert like Mat NPD who believed that PS5 and XSX will not going to do anything to Switch and he predicted Switch to be the market leader YOY even with those new consoles on the marketYou seriously think Series X and PS5 won't hurt business for the Switch in a noticeable capacity?
The new consoles will make a dent in it for sure. Not many people have $1000 to just splash on video game consoles this year, and four years into the Switch's life cycle means the majority of people who want it, have it. It's not going to move as many units as it did the previous years unless it receives a deep discount or a pro version releases(which they would be moronic not to.)
Zelda Skyward Sword only sold 4m lol while BOTW is the highest selling Zelda and tracking to pass 20m barrier soon.
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Switch audience = core Nintendo fanbase and not casual fans that go after smartphone craze in 2010.
That's neat, it's simple economics. If you introduce new products into a competing market it will cause run off from existing products. No one is saying the Switch is going to fall off so stop acting all butt blasted about this, merely that it will take a hit as a result of these systems.We have gaming market expert like Mat NPD who believed that PS5 and XSX will not going to do anything to Switch and he predicted Switch to be the market leader YOY even with those new consoles on the market
Dispersal of equityThat's neat, it's simple economics. If you introduce new products into a competing market it will cause run off from existing products. No one is saying the Switch is going to fall off so stop acting all butt blasted about this, merely that it will take a hit as a result of these systems.
Posting dumb smileys isn't some form of rational counter, it's rudimentary as can be. Nintendo may not compete with Sony and Microsoft in terms of the experiences they offer but they absolutely do compete for where money is spent.Dispersal of equity
Same thing can go against the new Systems as well. Why would they spent $500 on a new system when they can get Nintendo Switch+BOTW+MK8D+SSBU+SMO at the same price.Posting dumb smileys isn't some form of rational counter, it's rudimentary as can be. Nintendo may not compete with Sony and Microsoft in terms of the experiences they offer but they absolutely do compete for where money is spent.
Sure it can, but the impact will be extremely one sided. These are new consoles, the Switch is not. It will be nearly 4 years old at the time these release and there's going to be a large financial upheaval as people begin saving money to invest in these new ecosystems.Same thing can go against the new Systems as well. Why would they spent $500 on a new system when they can get Nintendo Switch+BOTW+MK8D+SSBU+SMO at the same price.
New Pokemon, new Zelda, new Mario, and AC will not available on PS5 and XSX.
Oh it wouldn’t , that tells me you have no clue what your talking about then.A die shrink wouldn't alleviate any of the problems I outlined if your intention was a 'Pro' console.
This doesn't explain away anything.
Why would they spent it on XSX instead of playing that library on the existing console?Sure it can, but the impact will be extremely one sided. These are new consoles, the Switch is not. It will be nearly 4 years old at the time these release and there's going to be a large financial upheaval as people begin saving money to invest in these new ecosystems.
Also your example doesn't do you any favors in relation to the Series X because you'll be able to get the console and a breadth of games right off the bat with a subscription so it would effectually cost the same.
We have gaming market expert like Mat NPD who believed that PS5 and XSX will not going to do anything to Switch and he predicted Switch to be the market leader YOY even with those new consoles on the market
I know exactly what I'm talking about, don't delude yourself into thinking you do.Oh it wouldn’t , that tells me you have no clue what your talking about then.
Thanks wasting my time.
Well it's pretty simple really, that period of crossover is extremely short not to mention the results on these varied platforms will be starkly different so it will absolutely sell.Why would they spent it on XSX instead of playing that library on the existing console?
It's time for you to stop using WiiU as a benchmark of what going to happen to Switch, WiiU was a catastrophe from the get go and selling at the snail pace in the first year of release while Switch is currently outpacing PS4 launch alligned without any price drop.
You truly don’t, stop trying to fool people you do because it’s obvious you don’t . You have no idea how technology works and living in your own reality by yourself, thanks for the laughs but I can’t take anything you say seriously anymore.I know exactly what I'm talking about, don't delude yourself into thinking you do.
You want to cram 3-4 times the compute into roughly the same form factor and you think a die shrink is going to make that possible without dramatically increasing cost not only because of the hardware itself but also how it has to be engineered around the form factor, plus the obvious thermal and power consumption issues....
But I don't have a clue what I'm talking about? Go back to your toys.
Well it's pretty simple really, that period of crossover is extremely short not to mention the results on these varied platforms will be starkly different so it will absolutely sell.
Nice hot take, saying a whole lot of nothing in many words. What would the power profile of a Switch Pro be in your eyes exactly?You truly don’t, stop trying to fool people you do because it’s obvious you don’t . You have no idea how technology works and living in your own reality by yourself, thanks for the laughs but I can’t take anything you say seriously anymore.
Who says it has to be 3-4x the power, your just making up stuff as you go and talking through your ass....again.
BOTW consistently selling 4.5m units every year.After Zelda and Mario the switch lost a lot of appeal. They don't have good legacy support and the ones that exist are overpriced. It's very underpowered, which is okay, but it makes the longevity questionable going into next gen. Nintendo will always have a spot, but they seem less impactful as I grow older.
Dude where is the Pokemon games in you analysis?Yup.
Nintendo's success comes from unique gameplay first, games second. I'd say MS and Sony are opposite. Pretty sure the average PS or Xbox gamer just wants a traditional black box under their TV and let the games do the talking with a standard controller.
If Nintendo comes up with a cool new system with a unique twist on gameplay, they'll be fine. and may sell like hotcakes. But if they release a system that the gaming public seems as ho hum gameplay, or pointless since they already have an iPad (Wii U) then their Marios and Zeldas won't be enough and it will sell crap.
That's why N64, GC and Wii U bombed. They still all had great Marios, Zeldas and Karts. But with no gimmicky gameplay, the system didn't have enough draw as third party game support are lousy.
One factor that always helps Nintendo regardless.... price. They always have low priced systems.
The second they release a system comparable to competition (Wii U at $300 when 360 and PS3 were around the same price), Nintendo sales drop like a rock.